Money earns u respect
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Actually hor, I think all this huge outward egotism on the part of boka is simply to overcompensate or mask his severe lack of self esteem and social skillsOriginally posted by BadzMaro:and those that are deluded and gearing towards extremism.
For instance , someone with great pride. or maybe EXTREME pride .
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Poke me for whatOriginally posted by BadzMaro:*yawn* *pokes elindra*
there are times to discuss and exchange views with people of great knowledge , calibre and/or people that accepts anothers views in consideration to share and absorb and debate.
and those that are deluded and gearing towards extremism. For instance , someone with great pride. or maybe EXTREME pride .
I'm having fun
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Yep, it is often said that the online persona of someone is often the opposite of how he is in real life.Originally posted by av98m:Actually hor, I think all this huge outward egotism on the part of boka is simply to overcompensate or mask his severe lack of self esteem and social skills -
so what are u trying to drive at?Originally posted by BadzMaro:*yawn* *pokes elindra*
there are times to discuss and exchange views with people of great knowledge , calibre and/or people that accepts anothers views in consideration to share and absorb and debate.
and those that are deluded and gearing towards extremism. For instance , someone with great pride. or maybe EXTREME pride .
That some factions of crimes shld be allowed to run so as to allow pockets of monopoly involving the crimes trades and government?
If so,then no.
some countries are coming up with regulated prostituition even when they are aware that most of the sex workers are victims of traffickers but they allow so the government can collect $ for social welfare etc.
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Well, let's just say I'm glad you're not a giant cockroach in real lifeOriginally posted by stellazio:Yep, it is often said that the online persona of someone is often the opposite of how he is in real life. -
i'm very sociable in real life,have lots of aquaintances and few best friends.Originally posted by stellazio:Yep, it is often said that the online persona of someone is often the opposite of how he is in real life.
[my aquaintaces are equal to your normal friends]
so ye,my standard of friends must be of certain calibre. -
Ahh nada.. I wasn't even referring to your social life.Originally posted by boka:i'm very sociable in real life,have lots of aquaintances and few best friends.
[my aquaintaces are equal to your normal friends]
so ye,my standard of friends must be of certain calibre.
What got you into that? Some conscience tingy?? -
I guess your friends have low expectationsOriginally posted by boka:i'm very sociable in real life,have lots of aquaintances and few best friends.
[my aquaintaces are equal to your normal friends]
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u were talking about esteem thingy so that would land it into a social cat.Originally posted by stellazio:Ahh nada.. I wasn't even referring to your social life.
What got you into that? Some conscience tingy??
u might fare better posting this in speakers corner given the 'whinners' there. -
I'm of someone whom i consider of high calibre friend.Originally posted by av98m:I guess your friends have low expectations
I stand by my friend in trouble,meet them for coffee in town and hear their cries when they meet with occasional ups and downs.
I never betray them nor see them that can be measured by value cuz i'm sentimental but i for sure will never show too much emotions.
My pride are use to enforcem y morals and principle and how does any of ur post shows i'm a low quality friend?
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No, i was in fact referring to pride and your holier then thou attitude + self confidence bout your looks.Originally posted by boka:u were talking about esteem thingy so that would land it into a social cat.
u might fare better posting this in speakers corner given the 'whinners' there.
Esteem wasn't mentioned by me. -
i guess it would be rather disturbign for you to get your massages from a giant roach?Originally posted by av98m:Well, let's just say I'm glad you're not a giant cockroach in real life 
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I fully understand your point of views , but in the end u still have to abolish the monetory system. By being in a position of power u can educated and hopefully change the mindset.To be a person of power. U will fight against gargantuan corporations trying to stop ur very way. Education and history is the only way to educate and gear the next generaion to have similiar thinkings.Originally posted by boka:If money is needed to ensure social order,then surely,one can expect the very issues it was trying to curb erupt when that monetary system falls.
I'm not supportive of communism,neither am i for capitalist.
capitalism has too much loop holes and manipulative traits.
It creates a very artificial enviroment that humans are to work for the economy.
What happened to our 'nature state' of everything?
Why are there borders?
the world do not belong to anyone,it is only when weak minded humans accept the authority of 'leaders' that this happen.
Humans have created a social system and hardwired it into the society.
That is why we have people who thinks money are the most important,education are of piority.
They don't seem to realise that all these are fasle because they were not meant to be.
It is a very artificial constructed system made.
The world social order has made life into a game.
money are like points in a game and the more u acheive the 'better'.
What happened to TRUE happpiness and that sort?
I doubt many will understand,if u do then good.
Using extremism will not further your cause. But to date , capitalism may be one of the ways to ensure development to all , and the monetary system to measure the success or failure of another. Maybe in the future when all become equal and through strife and war will they realise and abolish the monetary system and work for a common goal towards the better of mankind.
In the future , countries will unite to form superpowers.Borders will expand. Superpowers will cause so much death and destruction that maybe perhaps they will all wake up to thier ideas and unite into 1 earth 1 nation. But that my friend.. is gonna be in a distant future.
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I don't why u claim i have that holier than thou attitude but one thing's for sure.Originally posted by stellazio:No, i was in fact referring to pride and your holier then thou attitude + self confidence bout your looks.
Esteem wasn't mentioned by me.
Human traffickers shld be eradicated for they have an abyss of cruelty and inhumanity. -
Your friends must be so lucky to have one of your calibreOriginally posted by boka:I'm of someone whom i consider of high calibre friend.
I stand by my friend in trouble,meet them for coffee in town and hear their cries when they meet with occasional ups and downs.
I never betray them nor see them that can be measured by value cuz i'm sentimental but i for sure will never show too much emotions.
My pride are use to enforcem y morals and principle and how does any of ur post shows i'm a low quality friend?
your just trolling. -
Ahh well, its ok if you don't understand.Originally posted by boka:I don't why u claim i have that holier than thou attitude but one thing's for sure.
Human traffickers shld be eradicated for they have an abyss of cruelty and inhumanity.
And that thing on human traffickers, how they should be punished is not determined by me. But yes, they're commiting a great crime.
But then again, if you think about it, its all MANs fault.
So should every single 1 of us be wiped out?
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That depends on the principality of those brought up coupled by the morality they were taught and whether they understand the history of things.Originally posted by boka:so what are u trying to drive at?
That some factions of crimes shld be allowed to run so as to allow pockets of monopoly involving the crimes trades and government?
If so,then no.
some countries are coming up with regulated prostituition even when they are aware that most of the sex workers are victims of traffickers but they allow so the government can collect $ for social welfare etc.
IMO,totally unacceptable.
Legalised prostituition means they are protected by the government to curb pimps that profit from the girls. Victims of traffickers can always go to the authorities to seek help. It then depends on how dedicated the government is to protect the sex workers.
Maybe for the country a lesser evil for the greater good. You do not run the country so you do not really know the full extent of why and how it will affect the country. thats why i may have no comment on regulated prostitution, -
where did u get that from?Originally posted by stellazio:Ahh well, its ok if you don't understand.
And that thing on human traffickers, how they should be punished is not determined by me. But yes, they're commiting a great crime.
But then again, if you think about it, its all MANs fault.
So should every single 1 of us be wiped out?
Well that seems to be the best solution to make this world a better place, don't you think?
i said HUMAN TRAFFICKERS not HUMAN... -
yeah, but why do human traffickers exist?Originally posted by boka:where did u get that from?
i said HUMAN TRAFFICKERS not HUMAN...
for what purpose?
to serve who?
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Your going to point me as an extremist again i'm sure.Originally posted by BadzMaro:That depends on the principality of those brought up coupled by the morality they were taught and whether they understand the history of things.
Legalised prostituition means they are protected by the government to curb pimps that profit from the girls. Victims of traffickers can always go to the authorities to seek help. It then depends on how dedicated the government is to protect the sex workers.
Maybe for the country a lesser evil for the greater good. You do not run the country so you do not really know the full extent of why and how it will affect the country. thats why i may have no comment on regulated prostitution,
But that sentence in red.i can never understand it even from yougn when ppl tells me similar things along that line.
u do know what that line means right?
sacrificing some innocent for the better of the community?
How can anyone suggest that?
How can anyone sleep soundly knowing their safety are building upon the exploitation of the innnocent?
Perhaps u can so easily say because u are not part of that minority suppressed by criminals.
Rather than allowing innocent to be exploit,would a perfect method be to eradicate these criminals for once?
It's like saying buying 1 rotten orange and 5 fresh orange than buy all fresh oranges.
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your answer is here.Originally posted by stellazio:yeah, but why do human traffickers exist?
for what purpose?
to serve who?
think bout it deeper.
Capitalism
or if u are a religious person..
GOD.
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If i get to sacrifice 1000 well trained troops to storm the bunker that houses 500 hostages coupled with a few hundred die hard jihadists with enough nukes to blow up the entire earth... hmmmm....Originally posted by boka:Your going to point me as an extremist again i'm sure.
But that sentence in red.i can never understand it even from yougn when ppl tells me similar things along that line.
u do know what that line means right?
sacrificing some innocent for the better of the community?
How can anyone suggest that?
How can anyone sleep soundly knowing their safety are building upon the exploitation of the innnocent?
Perhaps u can so easily say because u are not part of that minority suppressed by criminals.
Rather than allowing innocent to be exploit,would a perfect method be to eradicate these criminals for once?
It's like saying buying 1 rotten orange and 5 fresh orange than buy all fresh oranges.
Doesn't make sense.
No one will want to sacrifice the innocent. But prostitution they get to CHOOSE whether or not they want to do it . While victims of human trafficking did not choose to be so. So there is a difference.
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Ok u misread the post.Originally posted by BadzMaro:If i get to sacrifice 1000 well trained troops to storm the bunker that houses 500 hostages coupled with a few hundred die hard jihadists with enough nukes to blow up the entire earth... hmmmm....
No one will want to sacrifice the innocent. But prostitution they get to CHOOSE whether or not they want to do it . While victims of human trafficking did not choose to be so. So there is a difference.
No want would want to resort to killing another but given no choice some actions has to be done to save many more.
If it's prostituition then i have no qualms,but if a government is allowing criminals to exploit victims of HT then it is a big NONO for me. -
Originally posted by boka:U must be another lost soul thinking keii is better looking than me.
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Then its up to the goverment's enforcement agencies to stop these human trafficers. Unless it is proven that 100% of the prostitutes are victims of human trafficking and still condoned by the government then please.. by all means. Get really really upset.Originally posted by boka:Ok u misread the post.
If it's prostituition then i have no qualms,but if a government is allowing criminals to exploit victims of HT then it is a big NONO for me.
Or u can do vigilante justice on their asses. And so what does this , coupled with money, respect and pride have to do with human trafficking I dont mind straying a bit in the topic if its related in a big way . I know it may involve money as it is one of the most proffiting business to date.
If u want to change it.. then u must have action. And be in a position to change be it ur extremism method , the Ghandi's way of peoples power , money or power.