U diversify when u bonk other people of other ethnicity. And maybe marry that other person of other ethnicity. Isnt that diversifying ur gene pool rather then of ur own ethnicity ?Originally posted by boka:I hate believing in the existence of God but..
Why does it seems that animals go thro numerous mating seasons and yet never seem to have HIV whereas us humans do.
Aren't we all living mammals who reproduce too?
I hate to believe in a superior being but it seems that it make sense that in the bible,GOD made it that humans stay faithful to their spouse.
Scientifically,if making multiply sex partner to diversify our gene pool seem logical then why hasn't evolution and mother nature allow our body to be immune to the HIV virus?
U don't make sense.
Animals doesn't get infected with HIV because evolution has made it for them to live to reproduce whereas for us,it doesn't seem like so.
In nature,ethinicity doesn't count.Originally posted by BadzMaro:U diversify when u bonk other people of other ethnicity. And maybe marry that other person of other ethnicity. Isnt that diversifying ur gene pool rather then of ur own ethnicity ?
Multiple sex partner will diversify genepool only if they are pregnant. But if it fails and contracts HIV , then that person is pretty much not being on top of the food chain. Becomes a disease. All things works both ways.
then i am sure a new disease will emerge , until then. Then it is up the the next generation and the next generation to decide where it goes. U cannot stop scientific advancement. Medical achievements and breakthroughs. Instead u accept the inevitable.Originally posted by boka:It doesn't matter how an artist takes a different angle of viewing his tainted picture.
The truth is,no one is going to buy his painting even after his constant justification and self smooting
It don't matter how people look at this issue because at the end of the day,humans will act upon their selfish nature and use the drug for their selfish purpose-having casual sex without the fear of catching HIV.
bro.. we are not animals.Originally posted by boka:In nature,ethinicity doesn't count.
Only physical fitness and important traits counts.
Mother nature doesn't say to a Kitten to bonk another white creamy colour male kitten just to have a more beautiful off spring.
Rather it tells the kitten to go for the Alpha male.
I'm saying that evolution has made us smarter.Originally posted by BadzMaro:bro.. we are not animals.
yes , instead of adapting , we change the environment to suit us. That is why we are the masters of this planet and not the animals. And since u look at it that way , it is also in our hands to save the earth because only we can do it whether or not we want to.Originally posted by boka:However,because humans have made survival almost not needed with food in the supermarkets,cafe etc,the human mind now no longer ponder over which male to mate.
Because it doesn't occupy its mind with survival,it has more time to ponder selection using a totally different guild line.
Of course i understand what u mean. But i dont understand is how is this relevant , well.. relevant in a way to prevent HIV cure , and to social degradation?Originally posted by boka:I'm saying that evolution has made us smarter.
We now have a civilisation and thus,we have our food produced instead of having to hunt for it.
We are in all aspect like animals except having a higher intelligence.
In ancient times,female will only mate with the alpha male.
Why the alpha males?
Alpha males will produce stronger off spring and this means better survival skills.
However,as human progress and becomes smarter,survival is no longer a concern and thus human can now wonder their minds off having to hunt for their next meal.
See the link?
Never forget that Human selfishness is here to stay and even after thosand of years,humans still hold selfishness inside us that is almost like an inate instinct.Originally posted by BadzMaro:yes , instead of adapting , we change the environment to suit us. That is why we are the masters of this planet and not the animals. And since u look at it that way , it is also in our hands to save the earth because only we can do it whether or not we want to.
Humans are compatible with each other regardless of ethnicity. The stronger gene will survive creating a better specimen. Having the good genes from both sides , we continue to diversify and natural selection in our genes will do its wonders. If not , it retains the bad genes , but we do not destroy these genes instead we shelter them and bring them up like any other human being.
Well, i applaud ur thoughts in keeping with social ills and what nots. Unfortunately , you are 1 voice. So instead if u want to make changes , spread your word out. Gather you support and be in position of power. if a cure is really found and that u are still alive , and if not.. ur thoughts echoes in the minds of millions of like minded people like you ,then u can speak up n stop this cure from reaching the tens and millions infected HIV kids around the world who never had a chance to stop themselves being born with it and denied the cure... that is found. But u may think they will die anyway and perhaps go to heaven , but during the time of thier suffering till death ?But well, thats that for the cure of HIV issue.Originally posted by boka:Never forget that Human selfishness is here to stay and even after thosand of years,humans still hold selfishness inside us that is almost like an inate instinct.
Time will tell.
In the future,one can see how the cure for HIV brings about more degradation in our society than the benifits that it was suppose to.
Are humans really ignorant to think that HIV will and CAN SOLVE such issues?
It is not merely a simple issues of saving HIV patient.
Let's put HIV patient at X figure.
Is the cure for HIV a good reason to save that X no. of patient and then in the near future humans having casual sex?
My stand is not to save the HIV patient but to aggresively educate the public on std awareness so that people will think twice about commiting them and for those affected with HIV "GOD bless them and hope satan will showered mercy on their tormented soul"
Social science would tell u the cure for HIV would lead to an icnrease in statistic of casual sex.
i shall follow suit cos too shag to think oredi hahaz.. I think its time for 0ut 0f P0int to step in now..Originally posted by kiss_my (_i_):y dont every1 just stfu
i'm stfu-ing now![]()
I'm not a christian and i do not believe in god.Originally posted by deathbait:oh my, i love christians. They can explain everything away because when things start to not make sense, they claim it's all god's plan.
ok let's tackle this slowly. Complex ideas seem not to penetrate your skull, so let's start small.
1) you spoke of animals not getting stds. Let's do a quick google and find out if what you said was true. SURPRISE! Your claim was false. Why am i not surprised.
2) "Humans have a tendency to take things for granted i am very sure humans will begin to discard morals standing.
"
Oh this one is a winner by itself. You wish to deprieve dying ppl of the cure just because YOU are sure of what will result from it.
3) "I hate to believe in a superior being but it seems that it make sense that in the bible,GOD made it that humans stay faithful to their spouse. "
God did nothing of that sort in the bible. Are you even allowed to misquote the bible?
4) "Scientifically,if making multiply sex partner to diversify our gene pool seem logical then why hasn't evolution and mother nature allow our body to be immune to the HIV virus?
U don't make sense. "
This is how evolution(in this case, natural selection) works. Sick ppl die, Healthy ppl develop the immunity AFTER they recover and pass it on. Your precious society is the one that's been preventing the latter from happening. We stopped evolving in most ways a long time ago. Go look up the basics of evolution first, k?
5) "In nature,ethinicity doesn't count. "
ok this is so stupid i don't think i need to elaborate. Diversification...ethnicity...these two words...can you possibly link them together?
6) "In truth,Mother nature doesn't say to a Kitten to bonk another white creamy colour male kitten just to have a more beautiful off spring.
Rather it tells the kitten to go for the Alpha male.
"
Wrong, in domestic cats, there is no alpha male. Not all animals have a social ladder.
I gotta hand it to you. Your supposed beliefs seem to tend towards this idea:
--Because a cure will lead to an increase in casual sex, fuck the HIV infected. We don't need no stinking cure.
What cult are you in again?
I shall repeat my points for sake of clarity.
1) casual sex is not a bad result in the bigger scheme of things. It leads to diversification of the gene pool, which is always a good hedging mechanism.
2) On the family level, you have no need to worry about cures of HIV leading to casual sex unless your family is already unstable. In which case, the existance of a HIV cure is the least of your worries
3) Societies with strong family ties(arguably stronger than the current era) have been built in the past with no threat of HIV at all. To suggest that the elimination of HIV will break down the family structure of society is to deny all existance of proof readily available.
4) The monogamy is/was not always the only family structure in the world. Just because your society practices a system of monogamy does not mean it is natural, nor does it mean it has to stay that way lest civilization as we know it collapse around us. In fact, monogamy is an unnatural result of humans having outgrown their primal needs.
5) you are an idiot. Stop worrying about how to deny cures to the terminally ill and start worrying about your mom's infidelity. I assume that's why you're so insecure about family ties. No? In that case, just stop worrying.
lol.. erm ok.Originally posted by boka:I'm not a christian and i do not believe in god.
but as much as i try to deny it,i'm pretty sure everything exist for a reason.
God is not the greatest,only inviduals like me and idealogist like hitler who can istill fear enough into u dogs are worthy to command u to be on your feets.
U ARE STUPID,I ONLY NEED TO PICK ONE FLAW FROM YOUR PAARA TO SHOW YOUR IDIOTICY.Originally posted by deathbait:oh my, i love christians. They can explain everything away because when things start to not make sense, they claim it's all god's plan.
ok let's tackle this slowly. Complex ideas seem not to penetrate your skull, so let's start small.
1) you spoke of animals not getting stds. Let's do a quick google and find out if what you said was true. SURPRISE! Your claim was false. Why am i not surprised.
2) "Humans have a tendency to take things for granted i am very sure humans will begin to discard morals standing.
"
Oh this one is a winner by itself. You wish to deprieve dying ppl of the cure just because YOU are sure of what will result from it.
3) "I hate to believe in a superior being but it seems that it make sense that in the bible,GOD made it that humans stay faithful to their spouse. "
God did nothing of that sort in the bible. Are you even allowed to misquote the bible?
4) "Scientifically,if making multiply sex partner to diversify our gene pool seem logical then why hasn't evolution and mother nature allow our body to be immune to the HIV virus?
U don't make sense. "
This is how evolution(in this case, natural selection) works. Sick ppl die, Healthy ppl develop the immunity AFTER they recover and pass it on. Your precious society is the one that's been preventing the latter from happening. We stopped evolving in most ways a long time ago. Go look up the basics of evolution first, k?
5) "In nature,ethinicity doesn't count. "
ok this is so stupid i don't think i need to elaborate. Diversification...ethnicity...these two words...can you possibly link them together?
6) "In truth,Mother nature doesn't say to a Kitten to bonk another white creamy colour male kitten just to have a more beautiful off spring.
Rather it tells the kitten to go for the Alpha male.
"
Wrong, in domestic cats, there is no alpha male. Not all animals have a social ladder.
I gotta hand it to you. Your supposed beliefs seem to tend towards this idea:
--Because a cure will lead to an increase in casual sex, fuck the HIV infected. We don't need no stinking cure.
What cult are you in again?
I shall repeat my points for sake of clarity.
1) casual sex is not a bad result in the bigger scheme of things. It leads to diversification of the gene pool, which is always a good hedging mechanism.
2) On the family level, you have no need to worry about cures of HIV leading to casual sex unless your family is already unstable. In which case, the existance of a HIV cure is the least of your worries
3) Societies with strong family ties(arguably stronger than the current era) have been built in the past with no threat of HIV at all. To suggest that the elimination of HIV will break down the family structure of society is to deny all existance of proof readily available.
4) The monogamy is/was not always the only family structure in the world. Just because your society practices a system of monogamy does not mean it is natural, nor does it mean it has to stay that way lest civilization as we know it collapse around us. In fact, monogamy is an unnatural result of humans having outgrown their primal needs.
5) you are an idiot. Stop worrying about how to deny cures to the terminally ill and start worrying about your mom's infidelity. I assume that's why you're so insecure about family ties. No? In that case, just stop worrying.
READ HIS POST AND U WILL UNVEAL HIS STUPIDTY!Originally posted by dinky1409:wow fierce.. need to insult hah?
ok can.. continue..Originally posted by boka:READ HIS POST AND U WILL UNVEAL HIS STUPIDTY!
AND BEING STUPID,HE TRIES TO TEACHES ME WHICH I FIND IT ANNOYING.
WHY CANT I INSULT?
I'M A HARDLINE PERSON.
WE'll leave the pulbic to think if u ARE THE IDIOT OR ME.Originally posted by deathbait:i think i can pretty much rest my case
you have obviously been pushed so far into the corner you've activated the ALL CAPS argument form.
I find it amusing that you think you're smart/knowledgeable while displaying a lack of finesse in the language you debate in. Not to mention, your arguments are full of circular logic and pure BS.
for eg, you can't argue that evolution doesn't work on domesticated animals, and in the same breath argue that humans are evolving.
Anyway, i'm just glad that the search for a cure for HIV goes on despite your silly protests. Don't hesitate to call me up for another debate when the cure is finalised. One can only hope that it happens soon. Then again, that would mean i would still have to argue with an 8 year old kid.
Let's just talk this over coffee.Originally posted by deathbait:i think i can pretty much rest my case
you have obviously been pushed so far into the corner you've activated the ALL CAPS argument form.
I find it amusing that you think you're smart/knowledgeable while displaying a lack of finesse in the language you debate in. Not to mention, your arguments are full of circular logic and pure BS.
for eg, you can't argue that evolution doesn't work on domesticated animals, and in the same breath argue that humans are evolving.
Anyway, i'm just glad that the search for a cure for HIV goes on despite your silly protests. Don't hesitate to call me up for another debate when the cure is finalised. One can only hope that it happens soon. Then again, that would mean i would still have to argue with an 8 year old kid.
I see your new here.Originally posted by deathbait:i think i can pretty much rest my case
you have obviously been pushed so far into the corner you've activated the ALL CAPS argument form.
I find it amusing that you think you're smart/knowledgeable while displaying a lack of finesse in the language you debate in. Not to mention, your arguments are full of circular logic and pure BS.
for eg, you can't argue that evolution doesn't work on domesticated animals, and in the same breath argue that humans are evolving.
Anyway, i'm just glad that the search for a cure for HIV goes on despite your silly protests. Don't hesitate to call me up for another debate when the cure is finalised. One can only hope that it happens soon. Then again, that would mean i would still have to argue with an 8 year old kid.