Speak Good English
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dormito_ger would have been a lovely thing to talk about during my high school lunch breaks...
i really miss high school...
sigh....we love to talk about singaporeans like her... and also singaporeans not like her. we just basically like to talk about how the local people treat us/how they behave/etc...
but we love cases like dormito_ger. goes off to some country filled with 'ang mohs' and then they 'change' sooo much. and chances are, they are also the type who will come back and speak with an 'accent' man, do we LOVE singaporeans like that!! haha. NOT! 
esp those who try to speak with some kind of 'accent' when they talk to us. we'll just reply in singlish
and the best is when we are overseas and hear some singaporean(s) talking with an 'amayleecan accent'. we'll just go up to them and ask 'r u singaporean?????' woohooohaaaa~~ should see the look on their face. and when they ask 'how did you knowwww????!'
yeah. so singaporeans. next time you see an expat/foreigner, dont speak to us with a 'ang moh accent' ok. cos chances are, it's actually erm....even harder to understand...
just drop the 'lahs' 'lors' 'one' and dialect words!! and actually, a lot of us like your singlish hey, we even try to learn it!!! though more often than not, it turns out erm...wrong...hahahaha... -
X2Originally posted by unclebutcher:many singaporeans can code switch.
when i'm with my friends, i speak with lah and lors etc
what talking formally, i speak pristine english.
GOT A DAMN PROBLEM WITH THAT, DORMITO GIRL ?
This is s'pore tradition so please do not look down on that , not every other country people has the ability to do tt , take US for an example , have u seen the people frm the street speak good english or do you hear the prof. speakin street talk to the streeties ??
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having read some of the previous posts, dorito or whatever shit gal is a singaporean residing/ studying in Australia.
SO WHAT IF YOU STUDY IN AUSTRALIA?
you say the standard of english in singapore is bad. So you just scream and rant at your aussie friends(if you have any) about the standard of English in Singapore. They laugh.
There's a difference between them laughing with you and at you.
There are many people in Singapore able to speak clear and pristine queen's english. So don't turn on your own kind, you ang moh wannabe. -
she will shoot you one big roundOriginally posted by yong93:X2
This is s'pore tradition so please do not look down on that , not every other country people has the ability to do tt , take US for an example , have u seen the people frm the street speak good english or do you hear the prof. speakin street talk to the streeties ??
Nvm tt if u dun get it ... and say simi she's talking about the english standard in singapore, so u bringing in stuff about english in US is out of point
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Yup!Originally posted by Dormito_ger:Evasive answer? Your juvenile logic and eagerness to link race to this issue simply reflects your childish and racist mentality. Don't be a sore loser just because you can't outargue someone. Race has got NOTHING to do with this. Instead of refuting arguments, you bring in race. Heh. Such impeccable reasoning simply evades me.
By the way, it's DUBIOUS, not DOUBIOUS... And don't tell me like you misspelt it on PURPOSE, like the other chap. Steadfastdly? LOL.
Personality disorder.
Hypocritical obsessive-compulsive disorder.
You're mentally ill.
You manifest it yet again.
Oh BTW, thanks for the correction.
I don't have any compulsion for perfection.
Like I said, you don't know the traits of this forum.
You're sick, kiddo. -
farking hell. can't you just show some respect?
so what if many singaporeans speak bad english?
do you feel happy when you win in a quarrel or smth?
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This is hilarious... Commenting on one's standard of English doesn't necessarily make me an 'ang mor wannabe'. I seriously fail to understand how these 2 separate issues are linked into one. So if I am currently residing in Singapore, I would be entitled to make that comment without such lashback? No one's turning one's back on one's own kind.Originally posted by unclebutcher:There are many people in Singapore able to speak clear and pristine queen's english. So don't turn on your own kind, you ang moh wannabe.
As what he said, he despises the way in which GP is graded, as it is easy to get an A1. Well, according to your statement, that 'there are many people in Singapore who are able to speak clear and pristine Queen's English', then it would be reasonable to infer that they would have a pretty strong command of the English Language; and if that's the case, there should be a lot of people with excellent GP grades around, am I right? But that's not the case, isn't it?Originally posted by S.KCH:The whole paragraph about how easy it is to get an A1 in GP is exactly why I despise the manner in which it is graded. Because people who mug and stick to rigid formats stand a higher chance of scoring as opposed to people who truly have a flair for writing.
On the other hand, if there aren't many who manage to obtain A1s in GP, where does that lead us to? Only a handful of people with good English? Only a few who can type/speak properly?
Of course you may argue that grades aren't exactly good indicators of one's standard of English. Well then, if so, I rest my case.
By the way, everyone has his/her own definition of clear and pristine English. I suppose your definition of Queen's English would be a mix of Singlish and Broken English? Or perhaps less broken English? Tsk, I doubt you even know what you're talking about dude. -
You're welcome.Originally posted by mancha:Yup!
Personality disorder.
Hypocritical obsessive-compulsive disorder.
You're mentally ill.
You manifest it yet again.
Oh BTW, thanks for the correction.
I don't have any compulsion for perfection.
Like I said, you don't know the traits of this forum.
You're sick, kiddo. -
My childhood is totally irrelevant to the issue at hand. But to satisfy your curiosity, well, I had a wonderful childhood, thank you. =)Originally posted by wxboi:farking hell. can't you just show some respect?
so what if many singaporeans speak bad english?
do you feel happy when you win in a quarrel or smth?
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just in case u dunno missy, there are plenty of 'ang moh wannabes' in singapore
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Ya I didn't get A1 for GP..... A2 only.....Originally posted by Dormito_ger:As what he said, he despises the way in which GP is graded, as it is easy to get an A1. Well, according to your statement, that 'there are many people in Singapore who are able to speak clear and pristine Queen's English', then it would be reasonable to infer that they would have a pretty strong command of the English Language; and if that's the case, there should be a lot of people with excellent GP grades around, am I right? But that's not the case, isn't it?
On the other hand, if there aren't many who manage to obtain A1s in GP, where does that lead us to? Only a handful of people with good English? Only a few who can type/speak properly?
Of course you may argue that grades aren't exactly good indicators of one's standard of English. Well then, if so, I rest my case.
By the way, everyone has his/her own definition of clear and pristine English. I suppose your definition of Queen's English would be a mix of Singlish and Broken English? Or perhaps less broken English? Tsk, I doubt you even know what you're talking about dude.
I wouldn't say I can speak clear and pristine Queen's English. Why should I? Our MM once said that the main purpose of a language is to make others understand you (statement with regards to Mandarin).
I have personally viewed, experienced, and did this:
1) When talking with Singaporeans in a foreign country, I used Singlish. We understood each other perfectly. However, foreigners do not understand us.
2) When communicating with foreigners, including students and professors, we used standard English. They understood us perfectly well. I can safely say that for the many Singaporean friends I know, most can switch between standard English and Singlish.
In addition, Singlish has it own sentence structures. Although it is "broken" English, it can also be viewed as something unique to us Singaporeans. The main advantage of Singlish I have experience so far is, being able to communicate fast between Singaporeans in a foreign country without foreigners understanding a large portion of what we said.
Being able to switch between Singlish and English also gives you an added advantage of being able to understand and communicate with almost everyone in Singapore, from Singaporeans with the lowest education to foreigners with a strong English background.
Just for interest: This same case of switching between proper and broken language is also present in Japan. This is largely due to the sms culture over there. -
eagle, no one said anything about speaking in clear and pristine Queen's english... I certainly did not. I would agree that, being able to switch between Singlish and standard English gives one an added advantage. And yes, the advent of the SMS culture and internet lingo has certainly caused a drop in English standard...Originally posted by eagle:Ya I didn't get A1 for GP..... A2 only.....
I wouldn't say I can speak clear and pristine Queen's English. Why should I? Our MM once said that the main purpose of a language is to make others understand you (statement with regards to Mandarin).
I have personally viewed, experienced, and did this:
1) When talking with Singaporeans in a foreign country, I used Singlish. We understood each other perfectly. However, foreigners do not understand us.
2) When communicating with foreigners, including students and professors, we used standard English. They understood us perfectly well. I can safely say that for the many Singaporean friends I know, most can switch between standard English and Singlish.
In addition, Singlish has it own sentence structures. Although it is "broken" English, it can also be viewed as something unique to us Singaporeans. The main advantage of Singlish I have experience so far is, being able to communicate fast between Singaporeans in a foreign country without foreigners understanding a large portion of what we said.
Being able to switch between Singlish and English also gives you an added advantage of being able to understand and communicate with almost everyone in Singapore, from Singaporeans with the lowest education to foreigners with a strong English background.
Just for interest: This same case of switching between proper and broken language is also present in Japan. This is largely due to the sms culture over there.
But thanks for your post. Cheers! -
seriously, to me, i don't see much relevancy in your replies too.
well, it tells me how the person was brought up.
and i do doubt your answer.
to end off,
i, personally, am proud of singlish. i don't need anybody to tell me that sg's standard of english is bad. but i wish to admit that i do not have a good command of it. however, i don't really give a damn as long as my message is understood by the other party be it using queen's english or the unique singlish. -
Great answer.Originally posted by Dormito_ger:You're welcome.
Get well soon. -
yeahOriginally posted by mancha:Great answer.
Get well soon.
unless she can find something like 'engrish' to pick on, she won't reply cos anyways, there's nothing she can say...
maybe two days ago PMS. dont u think her replies now a lot more *ahem*polite*ahem* -
a singaporean trying to throw away her roots and be an angmoh when living in overseas...
and turns against her own country
no wonder we have wars
humans against humans
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and singlish is what we are proud of, it distinguishes us as singaporeans, PROUD singaporeans, unlike someone studying in australia and thinks of herself as some kind of high ranking person just because she went living in australia, and thinks that she has every right of authority to blame us for everything, even the language we speak
maybe you can have humble pie for breakfast
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LOL it's ironic how I'm not a Singaporean yet I'm extremely offended by her comments. Pretentious b*tches like dormito_ger shouldn't be allowed to live. Well I guess bagging out your own race makes you an ang moh now doesn't it? Congratulations on trying to become someone you're not!
Anyways you really should seek help, I think you're having an identity crisis. Well done in letting your friends influence you to such a point that you begin to hate your own race and pretend you're not who you really are. -
Well, if my attitude/comments somehow offended your fragile sensitivities, that's too bad then. =)Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:LOL it's ironic how I'm not a Singaporean yet I'm extremely offended by her comments. Pretentious b*tches like dormito_ger shouldn't be allowed to live. Well I guess bagging out your own race makes you an ang moh now doesn't it? Congratulations on trying to become someone you're not!
Anyways you really should seek help, I think you're having an identity crisis. Well done in letting your friends influence you to such a point that you begin to hate your own race and pretend you're not who you really are.
Becoming someone I'm not? Nah, I know who I am, and where I stand, unlike some of you here in this forum.
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What an analogy. Wow!Originally posted by gigabyte14:a singaporean trying to throw away her roots and be an angmoh when living in overseas...
and turns against her own country
no wonder we have wars
humans against humans
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you're australian right? i remember that some time agoOriginally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:LOL it's ironic how I'm not a Singaporean yet I'm extremely offended by her comments. Pretentious b*tches like dormito_ger shouldn't be allowed to live. Well I guess bagging out your own race makes you an ang moh now doesn't it? Congratulations on trying to become someone you're not!
Anyways you really should seek help, I think you're having an identity crisis. Well done in letting your friends influence you to such a point that you begin to hate your own race and pretend you're not who you really are.
that means you have the right to flame -
Originally posted by Dormito_ger:What an analogy. Wow!
some idiot with no nationality, hello
i have a gut feeling you're this person
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Seriously, there are many things to complain about Singapore.
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while Singlish connects among us Singaporean and reflects our identity, it does not gives us an edge in the business and multi-national world since we are dealing and have to deal with people of all nationalities.
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Well said... Unfortunately, some people here THINK that the world revolves Singapore...Originally posted by hohaha:while Singlish connects among us Singaporean and reflects our identity, it does not gives us an edge in the business and multi-national world since we are dealing and have to deal with people of all nationalities.Originally posted by mancha:Actually Singapore do not revolve around the world, but the world do revolve around Singapore.