Why have ten children when you can't afford it?
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You know the movie 'White Men Cant Jump' are you one of those Chinese 'Soccer players' who balloon the ball into outer space when you are in front of the goal>Originally posted by val.:honestly.. i never liked malays.. im always banging them whenever i play street soccer with them.. poor rowdy uneducated halal shits
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children are innocent
children are the best thing u can have
even if u are poor, u will still find tat children are the best thing u have. -
Yes like the song 'Greatest love of all' once come out cannot come back insideOriginally posted by gunner77:children are innocent
children are the best thing u can have
even if u are poor, u will still find tat children are the best thing u have. -
i saw the straits times video news on this article.
They interview the guy and he said he is looking at all avenues to help. Haiz, extremely poor family planning comes to mind of course.
But then again when you make decesions like to take such a big bank loan to buy a house you shld have thot of ur own capabilities to repay the loan liao mah. come on man, be realistic lah, cannot be everytime u get into trouble because of bad decesions u made u expect some1 to come bail you out right?
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:You know the movie 'White Men Cant Jump' are you one of those Chinese 'Soccer players' who balloon the ball into outer space when you are in front of the goal>
That reminds me of Zulkifli Kartoyoho and Diego Forlan. -
Originally posted by kramnave: That reminds me of Zulkifli Kartoyoho and Diego Forlan.
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every year national day rally arrow them first, one year abortion, another year drugs, another year crime, another year low education rates, after finishing all the topics it's time for another cycle
btw the person who writes NDR malay speech is paid only $480, from what i know. -
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It is kind of alarming that the so called moderators are not doing anything to moderate this thread. Recently, sgForums has become a place where racists rant and ramble about the other races. For all you know, this forum may be shut down as it has becoma a place "where racism is harvested" among Singaporeans. Clearly, some comments by some people here are extreme racism.
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This forum is hosted in UK.Not in Singapore,therefore the Police cannot do anything about it.Britain's Freedom of Speech applies as well here.
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because, as the gahment reminded us in their campaigns...
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Though it is based in UK, the people who post irresponsibly are Singaporeans using Singapore IP.Originally posted by ceecookie:This forum is hosted in UK.Not in Singapore,therefore the Police cannot do anything about it.Britain's Freedom of Speech applies as well here.
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screw racism but i'm being discriminatory against the right to free speech
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any chinese families facing this kind of poor financial planning too?
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Originally posted by val.:honestly.. i never liked malays.. im always banging them whenever i play street soccer with them.. poor rowdy uneducated halal shits
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can't control, understand?
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we can go two ways, we can all behave as mature adults and learn to filter out certain things we know are childish and immature, or we can go "running to the teacher" everytime we see something we don't like .....Originally posted by simnatic:It is kind of alarming that the so called moderators are not doing anything to moderate this thread. Recently, sgForums has become a place where racists rant and ramble about the other races. For all you know, this forum may be shut down as it has becoma a place "where racism is harvested" among Singaporeans. Clearly, some comments by some people here are extreme racism.
what kind of society would we like to live in ? ... the former or the latter ? ... can we on one hand ask for freedom of press and freedom of speech while on the other ask for more censorship on selective topics ? ... I don't think it works that way ....
those who post those kind of one-liners are childish ... those who actually respond to those one-liners with more of their own one-line bigotry are not much better in my books .... -
We work both way, once thot to be mature can be childish to eyes of the others, once thot to be childish can be a great idea to the adult, the arrogancy of being seen as mature lead you to nowhere, but merely just imposing idealogy of your own world. Childish or mature, just be nature.Originally posted by Fatum:we can go two ways, we can all behave as mature adults and learn to filter out certain things we know are childish and immature, or we can go "running to the teacher" everytime we see something we don't like .....
what kind of society would we like to live in ? ... the former or the latter ? ... can we on one hand ask for freedom of press and freedom of speech while on the other ask for more censorship on selective topics ? ... I don't think it works that way ....
those who post those kind of one-liners are childish ... those who actually respond to those one-liners with more of their own one-line bigotry are not much better in my books ....
If one liner of word/sentence can made all realise and understand the true logical interpretion of the subject, what does an essay of a few hundreds or even thousands words got to do if it produce no substance in it arugement at all. -
X2Originally posted by simnatic:As a Singaporean, I really feel very upset reading comments insulting the Malays and Muslims. Many of you are just listing down utter rubbish in your judgements. I am not defending the Malays, nor am I insulting them.
Let me tell you first, Malays are not "brainless", "idiotic" or "stupid". Just fyi, the story is highlighted by ST as it is one of the few rare cases of extreme poverty in Singapore. Well, if it is all too common, why would they publish such a story? This shows that maybe out of 10 Malays, only 1 or 2 do 'things without thinking through'.
From my personal experience, Malays are definitely not stupid. An amount of them are lazy, I have to agree as I, and many of you people have observed. Well, if you actually approach them and ask why, their answer will be "because of society". IF SOCIETY(U PEOPLE) INSISTS that they are simply useless, of course they will be. The mentality to many is, why even bother is someone, in this case, a whole society labels him as useless? Many Malays do make an effort to rise, but their minds are too full of these negative thoughts not only from you people, but also their family members themselves. Coming from a large family, when the parents or siblings do not do well in education, they will simply think that "Aiyah, it is in my genes that i'm born stupid". But the fact that they can think that way PROVES that they are not stupid at all, they can think. What many Malays need, in my opinion, is some encouragement + a bit of force to make them start improving themselves.
For your information, the top English Language, Geography and History students in my school are Malays. Most of them did not do well in the beginning of secondary three, but with a bit of force from friends, teachers and parents, they all shot up to become A1 students. It merely proves that Malays are not stupid.
Some of you complain that your tax dollars are spent in feeding them. Please, reflect upon yourselves, how inhumane you are. Now, we don't know why that family is not doing well in the first place. It is again, unfair for you to judge without knowing the full picture. But what's done is done. The couple's children did not have a choice in being born. Please, have some pity. They don't even have a house for goodness sake, and they are paying for their parent's mistakes. I'm sure that the least we can do is provide them with food and education. You see, if they read this thread, they will be demoralized and become as what i have mentioned in the first paragraph.
To summarize, the Malays are how they are because of their social problems, but the some members of other racial groups who judge and comment without thinking are not helping them raise their status quo at all. And I believe that if Singapore should fall one day, it would be because of these racial problems that seem to be expanding. Ten years ago, we wouldn't be hearing much of these rambling and rants to begin with.
My post has no intentions of being racist in any way.
There are blacksheep in every single ethnicity as there are morons.
Definition of success means differently to people. Some cultures like the idea of a wholesome family life while some cultures like education and material wealth. I have malay friends who studied with me , liked the idea of starting a family after they got their degree. To them , family life is important and they like the idea of having their very own family. Is one wrong from the other? No.
Malays are very tight knit as a community and they are very lovely people. My mom (chinese btw) was admitted to hospital in Singapore with her children in Australia and my father working . The family of a malay patient actually FELT sorry for her that no one was visiting her during the afternoon. They made my mom felt like she was a family friend during her admission even though they were strangers to her and she a stranger to them.
I met Bruneian, Singapoean and Malaysian Malays who are actually damn smart. They come over to Australia to study for their Masters and PhD . They don't need prodding - they do equally well as their chinese/indian counterparts.
The family who is in this predicament ,without looking at their race, - they need help now. Yes it might have not been feasible to have 10 kids in their situation but it is now done . No use crying over spilt milk.
I think the issue now is providing an education for their children so that they do not get trapped into the cycle of poverty and they will have an opportunity for skill training or further academic advancements. Once kids are educated , they look at their parents' mistakes and they won't make the same one again because they have lived through the consequences. -
O.o i liked it when this topic did not come out.
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I see there are loads of close minded people around here.........
Some say yes its just the malays.....they are born liddat......
etc.......
I think its not JUZ the malays.........it is actually the way one is raised by.....
People from the world war times mostly have big families........
Many chinese during and before that time too had loads of children........
The only thing that keeps the modern Chinese from having that much of children is becoz most chinese nowadays are money minded thus they are career goers..........
In the end most chinese girls end up not knowing how to cook and fail in marriage...........
I cannot say that it applies only to chinese but that is true.........most chinese girls nowadays are brought up only to learn to make instant noodles and instant milo........
Most people nowadays want to enjoy life.........
Wot i'm trying to say is that some like being in the company of others, some dun like to have to much company.........
But in the end.....success in being a parent no matter the amount of children, is being able to teach them how to be a successful parent too..........not about being a successful person........ok i know some of you obviously are confused about wot i'm saying......there a more ways than one to interpret words..........broaden your minds......dun just stereotype....... -
chinese family in trouble, singaporean step forward and help
steve irwin died, singapore showed respect to him by putting turtles in front of their msn nickame.
when our founding fathers died, not even that was done.
now malay family in trouble, here we are, shoot shoot and shoot.
something is wrong in our society? -
I dun think its a sickness in our society.........rather, its the people..........we can't say they are sick.....its juz them.........many people in Singapore take things for granted........Originally posted by DrAlienology:chinese family in trouble, singaporean step forward and help
steve irwin died, singapore showed respect to him by putting turtles in front of their msn nickame.
when our founding fathers died, not even that was done.
now malay family in trouble, here we are, shoot shoot and shoot.
something is wrong in our society? -
When parents encourage siblings to compete fiercely against one another they could end up not liking each other.The Garmen is something like that Those people who are here to make racists remarks are equally aware that Malays are catching up fast with the rest in SIngapore and perhaps they are not comfortable with that.In this forum we are all rascists but no need to vent your hatred and anger in here.
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when i see this thread title, i already is referring to wad grp liao. this is so expected