Should i strike off this guy from project
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Yes, I totally understand your anguish.Originally posted by thickskin23:Thanks for the advice. I must first said i do not want and does not want anything to do with him. I mean i have the authority to strike him off as i am the group leader and my tutor learned about his behaviour through the remaining 2 girls and the tutor said i had the power to strike him off.
I am a normal guy i do not have a big heart just a normal heart, the things he did is simply childish, things like he will talk and talk about ideas while never even do any research. We were each assigned individual tasks to perform. Example he will do half of the task and i do the other half and when the deadline is nearing, i will call and sms him whether had he completed his part. He will never reply and finally when i get to meet him, he will act ignorant and pretend that he cannot do it and seriously i curse him so nights when i have to cover his backside by doing his part.
The last straw comes when i combine the whole project and i email him a copy of the whole thing, and during the final stage of discussion where the whole group gathers. He will rave stupid questions like "How come it does not have this part or that theory etc". Then i will say its in page this and page that, apparently he does not even care to read the whole thing and yet still have the cheek to critize our hard work. Anyway the other 2 girls just call me and we decided to strike him off.
I mean the 3 of us agree if that joker even had a single ounce of proof that he did put in hard work to do any research we will let him be our group but seriously that guy is a joke
I've been through it myself.
Projects.... what I truly learned from it was not the subject matter, but more the human handling aspects.
You will, after all this is done and over with, look back and laugh at it.
Right now, do what you deem is most fitting. You will realize sooner or later, this is but a small matter in the overall scheme of your life. -
Yes, isn't it funny ?Originally posted by apples:Ah... someone who share similar feelings as I do
. However, at that university age, I myself would easily have just used my anger to punish such a person with little mercy and care little else but just those grades.
Now we just look at what we did before, and see it as a joke now.
Our past follies, that's what makes us what we are today. -
don't let the fellow drag down your grades and free load off the rest of you
Speak with your tutor and lecturer to seek their advice -
i'm in a similiar position...just that mine is in the real working world.
Got a new colleague who joined some time in Aug.
All these while, he's either glued to internet surfing or shows a black/disinterested face whenever i try to teach him stuff or get him to perform some task (we're out-stationed, so no one around to supervise us)
I cant stand it anymore and emailed my bosses about this.
Why should i take up bulk of the work while the other is slacking?
sometimes people just need to learn from the hard way. -
dream on.........zzzzzzzzOriginally posted by vicpac:"Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?" -
There are always these type of creeps in working life. They destroy the morale of the team, they are disruptive, unproductive, a waste of time and makes everybody upset. Show no mercy, get rid of them. I m speaking from several experiences in dealing with this type of scum bags.Originally posted by thoreldan:i'm in a similiar position...just that mine is in the real working world.
Got a new colleague who joined some time in Aug.
All these while, he's either glued to internet surfing or shows a black/disinterested face whenever i try to teach him stuff or get him to perform some task (we're out-stationed, so no one around to supervise us)
I cant stand it anymore and emailed my bosses about this.
Why should i take up bulk of the work while the other is slacking?
sometimes people just need to learn from the hard way. -
SIM is a uni meh?Originally posted by LazerLordz:I see.. well, seek a group consensus lor.
SIM?
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Yes, a private university. MDIS too.Originally posted by unclebutcher:SIM is a uni meh? -
Let him fail. He should not pass based on your merit. met quite a few like that back in Uni and NIE.
one guy will always call us on fri nite with some sob story abt why he could not do his part for the weekly sat presentations. every week he will rotate n call one team member and dump it onto him/her. when he called me, i told him 'too bad.' and hung up the fone. U get pple like that in NIE even.... -
I say, you have a good talent in poetryOriginally posted by vicpac:"Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?"
Back to the topic: I think you better boot him out as a real-life example. If he goes on with this behaviour when working, tell ya that the boss will fire him. -
Well, if I'm you, i'd keep him. He's pathetic enough. But on one condition, he must study well next year la. If he continue like that. No more chance ler.Originally posted by thickskin23:The thing is our project are finished, and he never done anything except talk rubbish. Now he is pleading with me saying that i can save him from failing his last module. So i dun know whether to save him or kick him when he is down. And he is a joke, he is thinking of an appeal when his other grades are 29 marks, 44 and 45 marks out of 100 marks -
wow!! this is an interesting situation.
I agreed with what jojobeach and apples were saying...
However I also agreed with what they rest are saying on kicking him out...
I wondered what will buddha will do (from a spiritual point of view)..
I'm more inclined towards jojobeach and apples' belief, but I wondered when will the goodwill you built come back to u? -
Originally posted by thickskin23:I am currently a uni student doing an accounting project. My group consist of 2 guys (including me) and 2 girls. The guy is a repeated student of the module and we thought AT First it will be easier to work with someone who previously had experience with the module.
The thing is this guy is beoming weird, one day when the four of us are in msn discussing the project, his msn quote for that day was " If you cannot avoid rape, you should enjoy the process." After that day, the 2 girls are reluctant to work with him and so it is up to me to pair up with him. He is always late for the discussions up to 2 hours late and this guy only know how to talk but never does a single shit. Frankly i am sick of him as he never give retarded excuses like he does not know how to do, but seriously the rest of the group all started from knowing nothing, what gives him the advantage for us to wipe his backside.
Anyway the semester grades are out and he flunked 3 modules except this module and if i propose to strike him out, he will seriously flunk the last module. So should i strike him out?
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u sound like tupac for me for certain reasons.Originally posted by vicpac:"Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?" -
actually the quote is very meaningful.
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rape him lor since he likes rape so much
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he reaps what he sows
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"What is rooted is easy to nourish.Originally posted by norm:he reaps what he sows
What is recent is easy to correct.
What is brittle is easy to break.
What is small is easy to scatter.
Prevent trouble before it arises.
Put things in order before they exist.
The giant pine tree
grows from a tiny sprout.
The journey of a thousand miles
starts from beneath your feet." -
Life is shorter than you think.Originally posted by airgrinder:I'm more inclined towards jojobeach and apples' belief, but I wondered when will the goodwill you built come back to u?
Even if TS don't punish him for this project, as long as he continues this freeloading attitude, he won't be able to survive the working world.
Life has it's way of playing with you.
So yes, if TS feels like a hero, he should go ahead and teach him a lesson.
However, such act only serve to benefit that loser.
Honestly, the two girls are just as weak.
If they don't like what is written on the msn, they could have just make it clear that they feel offended by it and request it be removed.
This is all part of dealing with conflicts.
Sometimes, all the girls knows is biatching behind the person's back. -
Urm not all girls biatch.Originally posted by jojobeach:Life is shorter than you think.
Even if TS don't punish him for this project, as long as he continues this freeloading attitude, he won't be able to survive the working world.
Life has it's way of playing with you.
So yes, if TS feels like a hero, he should go ahead and teach him a lesson.
However, such act only serve to benefit that loser.
Honestly, the two girls are just as weak.
If they don't like what is written on the msn, they could have just make it clear that they feel offended by it and request it be removed.
This is all part of dealing with conflicts.
Sometimes, all the girls knows is biatching behind the person's back.
I tell it to people's faces. Hence popularity contest - I tend to lose.
As for the TS , been there before with group projects in school, give him a chance to explain what has been done in the project . If he still pretends that he does not know anything or he cannot explain what has been done so far by the group, ditch him. When you do ditch him , ditch him in front of the group. Explain to him because he knows nothing and has not participated in any thing worthwhile, you have but little choice to drop him. If he feels that it is unfair, he can appeal to the tutor.
Who gives a damn if he is going to be your future supervisor or crap - I am sure that you would not want to work for such a person or even with him. -
Originally posted by fymk:
This is why hor, most people don't like to work for female manager/supervisors.
Urm not all girls biatch.
I tell it to people's faces. Hence popularity contest - I tend to lose.
As for the TS , been there before with group projects in school, give him a chance to explain what has been done in the project . If he still pretends that he does not know anything or he cannot explain what has been done so far by the group, [b]ditch him. When you do ditch him , ditch him in front of the group. Explain to him because he knows nothing and has not participated in any thing worthwhile, you have but little choice to drop him. If he feels that it is unfair, he can appeal to the tutor.
Who gives a damn if he is going to be your future supervisor or crap - I am sure that you would not want to work for such a person or even with him.
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Too cold hearted and no give face.
Scarly that guy cannot take the pride smashing and kill himself, will you live in regret the rest of your life ? -
I had a female boss, and I appreciated her frankness and vice-versa.Originally posted by jojobeach:This is why hor, most people don't like to work for female manager/supervisors.
Too cold hearted and no give face.
Scarly that guy cannot take the pride smashing and kill himself, will you live in regret the rest of your life ? -
First you say that girls like to biatch behind each other backs.Originally posted by jojobeach:This is why hor, most people don't like to work for female manager/supervisors.
Too cold hearted and no give face.
Scarly that guy cannot take the pride smashing and kill himself, will you live in regret the rest of your life ?
So you get one that tells you off upfront and you say cold hearted and "no give" face.
So which is it you prefer? Even if my superiors try to sugar coat things , I tell them to go straight to the point. If they criticise , I thank them and ask them how to improve. It is not easy to take negative comments but one has to soak it in, learn and improve oneself.
If the guy cannot take criticism - that's too bad. If he chooses to kill himself, it is his choice and a rather dumb choice since there is more to life than criticism. The only thing I regret is that he made such a dumb choice to leave his loved ones over one stupid things. I won't regret what I said.
So far I have not met any one so suicidal over professional criticism. And when you do tell a person off - you don't target them on a personal level - you target them on their professional performance in front of the team affected. One thing is I never yell - I talk in a normal tone - much easier to handle things effectively in a calm manner
If it is an indivdual performance - then I take them aside and talk to them. Yes I had one or two subordinates did cry before but I just tell them that there is no point crying - what is done is done - now is based on the future.
You cannot make the whole world like you and vice versa.