"Inverse Generator" made in Singapore
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Yes, it's not actually complete yet.Originally posted by xcloud23x:sad to say but this idea doesnt meet the requirements of free energy. U need to move ur hand to make those magnet works. Those involved energy. There are better solution in the internet than yours.
Wait for my updates! Be patients...doing this part time leh.
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But I thought type C pacemakers can last 2 decades without being taken out.Originally posted by eagle:my FYP is more of converting vibrational kinetic energy to electrical energy using a MEMs device. The goal is in 15 years time, they will be able to port such a device over to things like pacemakers, such that the pacemakers may be able to run forever without being taken out every 5 years for battery replacement
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Wasting your time and energy??? If you tell me you are attaching the magnet to a dynamo I might believe you.Originally posted by Simontay78:Yes, it's not actually complete yet.
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you know what they said when Bell first mentioned of 'telephone'..?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Wasting your time and energy??? If you tell me you are attaching the magnet to a dynamo I might believe you.
give him a break lar, its not like hes spending your money to do this
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wahh.. wat is the gauss of magnets u use on the wheel??
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actually this project is not really brand new but at least u have done it.
rite now if anyone can come out generator dat generated from sun ray, or breaking molecular particular to gain more hydrogen, he will win nor-ber prize. -
GO Simon Go
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My point is actually the same as xcloud23x. It doesn't seem to be any more efficient than any commercial generators.Originally posted by Simontay78:Yes, it's not actually complete yet.
Wait for my updates! Be patients...doing this part time leh.
Hmmmm, I didn't read of such a thing yet. Anyway if my project were to succeed in the long run (of cuz not by me), then pacemakers might be able to run indefinitely. By converting vibrational energy to electrical energy, my project will be able to harvest such vibrational energy that are wasted when for example, a MRT train moves or when a bus moves. The potential usage for such a possible device is limitless. Best of all, it is a clean/renewable/non-polluting source of energy.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:But I thought type C pacemakers can last 2 decades without being taken out.
Recharging is done by passing said human body under an EM field. -
no la, the physics of it on the surface does not seem right... Maybe there's deeper physics in how it might be more efficient, but we shall wait for Simon to advise usOriginally posted by 4getmenot:you know what they said when Bell first mentioned of 'telephone'..?
give him a break lar, its not like hes spending your money to do this -
THis experiment is a sham because it does not work and he is removing comments that point to that fact on youtube. Obviously he has been convinced by many people that it is a just fooling around with people's heads, but he just wants the fame.
I will say again, this contraption is merely the longer route around a problem that has a solution which was designed many years ago by the dutch with their windmills. Magnets do not store energy. Force is not = to energy. -
one thing i can suggest: make a build in tesla generator to make the magnet stimulate the wheel. and tesla generator is using free energy from air/fluid viscosity
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The main flaw of such a project is that electromagnetic energy depend heavily on the speed of motion, in which case, the movement of his device is too slow to generate sufficient energy
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ts, make a lighter wheel if possible.
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For gravity and inertia, we may be able to use gravity force generated by our Earth's gravity field (i.e. like if you would to propel a rocket to the Earth's orbit, you will in fact revolve around the Earth forever (or at least for hundreds of thousands of orbits, without the need of engine power).Originally posted by eagle:One possible method, which I'm working out for my FYP too, is to design a circuit (capacitor + inductor + power electronics) to store the gained energy into the capacitor (if you cannot make it consistent like a normal generator).
Inertia has its own inertia/momentum due to the object's mass and velocity. The wheel may be able to move by gravity of its "lop"-sided mass and spin, then the magnet may "propel" the spinning motion of the wheel through inertia/momentum of the wheel to keep the wheel spinning.
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Erm... Not really... Inertia makes an object continue in its state of motion only if no external force acts on it. In other words, it must be a separate system.Originally posted by nightzip:For gravity and inertia, we may be able to use gravity force generated by our Earth's gravity field (i.e. like if you would to propel a rocket to the Earth's orbit, you will in fact revolve around the Earth forever (or at least for hundreds of thousands of orbits, without the need of engine power).
Inertia has its own inertia/momentum due to the object's mass and velocity. The wheel may be able to move by gravity of its "lop"-sided mass and spin, then the magnet may "propel" the spinning motion of the wheel through inertia/momentum of the wheel to keep the wheel spinning.
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I will say this again. This contraption is nothing more than a magnet on a swing being pushed by a hand holding another magnet. The designer cannot even distinguish a source from a load, force from energy, and the fact that a motor and a generator is essentially the same device designed differently to optimise their functions.
Don't look at the colourful wheel and you will see the truth. -
The project is not completed yet and please hold your comments until it's done. It's very sad that most people don't appreciate inventors or creator's plights and condemn even before achieving similar accomplishment.
I don't want to keep on fighting those people who don't like my demonstration and suspect those who cannot get the details of my design on the one-way crusade to criticize blindly and aimlessly.
Thanks for those people who supported me and encourage me, I will add my effort to build it more efficiently.
The current status is not complete which I did mention it in the beginning.
(I am trying to figure out to automate the movement of the big magnet and waiting to buy the components later!!)
One way is to add other energy conversion renewable energy into the loop like a solar panel to power a linear actuator to push the wheel...so the wheel actually convert solar, magnetic force, Gravity, Inertia into usable electricity.
The problem is how efficient will it be and how much more can it create...it's a fight to the finish. I don't want fame money or anything...just to build a system and create jobs and hope.
Please, help me root those naysayers away as it will only kill ambition and creativity.
Thank you very much and Merry Christmas! -
Actually this project was done with similarity to the "Mythbusters" program, in the end, it worked but it wasn't producing enough energy to have build the system in the first place. (i.e the working parts wore down before the cost of building the system was met even with lubricants.)Originally posted by Simontay78:
The project is not completed yet and please hold your comments until it's done. It's very sad that most people don't appreciate inventors or creator's plights and condemn even before achieving similar accomplishment.
I don't want to keep on fighting those people who don't like my demonstration and suspect those who cannot get the details of my design on the one-way crusade to criticize blindly and aimlessly.
Thanks for those people who supported me and encourage me, I will add my effort to build it more efficiently.
The current status is not complete which I did mention it in the beginning.
(I am trying to figure out to automate the movement of the big magnet and waiting to buy the components later!!)
One way is to add other energy conversion renewable energy into the loop like a solar panel to power a linear actuator to push the wheel...so the wheel actually convert solar, magnetic force, Gravity, Inertia into usable electricity.
The problem is how efficient will it be and how much more can it create...it's a fight to the finish. I don't want fame money or anything...just to build a system and create jobs and hope.
Please, help me root those naysayers away as it will only kill ambition and creativity.
Thank you very much and Merry Christmas!
You were talking about the power source to the wheel, I suggested hooking it up to a dynamo(should be a turbine) using tidal power which is one of the most inefficient way of doing things.(Tides down in the straits are real fickle) Solar energy will not work easily as Singapore is a humid country with a expected 60% power lost to humidity and cloud formations and limited space constraint. -
Simple reason of mechanical wear and tear.Originally posted by 4getmenot:you know what they said when Bell first mentioned of 'telephone'..?
give him a break lar, its not like hes spending your money to do this
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If you quote that to windmill inventors...they can be sure to say...Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Simple reason of mechanical wear and tear.
"Good, more jobs for those people who maintain it!
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Yes wear and tear does affect the design like using more quality bearings and other ideas to make it less vulnerable to weather related wear and tear.
Windmills and solar panels are very resistance to wear and tear not just because they are made from strong materials but also people to maintain them and fixing them when they break down.
If a car breaks down over time because of wear and tear...do you don't invent them?
Regards,
Simon Tay
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Simon, could you explain how it can be more efficient?
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Oh I heard about Mythbuster trying it...weakly defended their position. They are not inventors but just trying out a design by some internet website. They don't think of alternatives and solutions to solve the problems they face.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Actually this project was done with similarity to the "Mythbusters" program, in the end, it worked but it wasn't producing enough energy to have build the system in the first place. (i.e the working parts wore down before the cost of building the system was met even with lubricants.)
You were talking about the power source to the wheel, I suggested hooking it up to a dynamo(should be a turbine) using tidal power which is one of the most inefficient way of doing things.(Tides down in the straits are real fickle) Solar energy will not work easily as Singapore is a humid country with a expected 60% power lost to humidity and cloud formations and limited space constraint.
In terms of Cost of building it vs return of investment, this you have to ask why people buy solar panels and windmills at high cost and the break even period is about 10 years using current electrical tariff?
It's because the future cost of electricity will be much higher...considering Singapore power is generated using 100% imported pipe natural gas (80%) and expensive fuels like bitumen (tarsands) and oil.
Indonesia is a OPEC country which recently in 2004 became net oil IMPORTER and had claim to cut gas export to japan by 2010. What then hold our future price of electricity? Singapore going to face a energy crisis in 2009 when liberalizations of electricity market starts. Your housing tariff will be paid when you use and the prices fluctuate according to demand and supply every 30 min.
Be prepare in 2012 when LNG terminal starts in Singapore as Liquefied Natural gas imported from far away countries like Qatar and Australia will be spot pricing traded in competition of demand from the world include CHINA, INDIA, USA, and many other countries like Japan and S. Korea.
By then, Solar panels will be in high demand and prices will soar till it's unfordable.
My project is just something to cut cost in the future for myself and create jobs for others...and if you don't like it...don't learn how to build it later. Yes I am teaching it to people to build it in future and the students teach others as part of their job.
Please do find solutions to all the flaws of the system if you can, otherwise don't make it like it's a scam or something....I don't want your money, investment or such.
With that, I end my rants
I wish you guys a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Regards,
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Dynamo require you to turn it totally converting your hand energy into kinetic energy, using it to induce electricity using lens law to the coil in the dynamo.Originally posted by eagle:Simon, could you explain how it can be more efficient?
Mine currently uses a push and release movement of my hand and added magnetic repulsion of the magnet to the wheel, gravity to pull the wheel down and stored inertia force to make it rotate fully. The total energy spent is cut by these added forces compared to simply using your hand to turn the dynamo.
I haven't add the single phase coil connection or 3 phase coil connection yet as it's Not completed...as I mentioned in the first post. -
* Composition: NdFeBOriginally posted by MyNameisNas:wahh.. wat is the gauss of magnets u use on the wheel??
* Coating: Nickel Plate
* Br max: 12,700 Gauss
* Bh Max: 40 MGOe
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Ok, this is my opinion from physics concepts (Trust me, I have received awards in physics before)Originally posted by Simontay78:Dynamo require you to turn it totally converting your hand energy into kinetic energy, using it to induce electricity using lens law to the coil in the dynamo.
Mine currently uses a push and release movement of my hand and added magnetic repulsion of the magnet to the wheel, gravity to pull the wheel down and stored inertia force to make it rotate fully. The total energy spent is cut by these added forces compared to simply using your hand to turn the dynamo.
I haven't add the single phase coil connection or 3 phase coil connection yet as it's Not completed...as I mentioned in the first post.
1) Energy is not created by the magnetic repulsion. The "magnetic energy" that you have claimed actually came from your hand, ie you sort of store the kinetic energy into the magnetic field, which then converts back to kinetic energy again. The concept used here is Einstein's Law of Conservation of Energy
2) Inertia happens only if there is no net input or output of energy (if we view it in the energy way). Which means total energy to the system is still a constant, ie inertia does not generate more energy.
3) The motion is at the outside of the wheel, thus you felt that it is easier as compared to a hand dynamo. Reason is because although torque required is the same amount, and since torque = force * distance from centre of rotation, less force was used. I'm extremely sure that if the handle of the hand dynamo is extended to be the same or larger than the diameter of the wheel, the ease of turning would be the same.
The only way this might be more efficient than a hand dynamo, if you succeed, is that there is less weight of the handle to turn the generator, thus enabling the generator to turn faster with the same amount of force. However, the amount of efficiency gained should actually very very little.
Correct me if I'm wrong in any of the concepts. Thanks