How would you react?
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In my school, if a student or even teacher wants to enter a room with another teacher inside, you have to knock and wait for the teacher to give you permission to come in.
It is a trivial matter yes, but if it is not prevented, people would start walking in and out the room without any control. You can see like this, the classroom is like the teacher's house during lesson time. As long as he is still inside, no matter whether the class is dismissed or not, it is still his house. And you don't enter someone's house without that person's permission. It is as simple as that.
Yes, the teacher shouldn't have flared up but really, it can be very trying sometimes. I have had a student challenging me recently and I had to really bite my tongue to prevent myself from going down to his level. I think the appropriate thing to do is for the student to apologize to the teacher first (as he started the whole trouble by entering the classroom without the teacher's permission) and if the teacher does reflect on his action, he would apologize to the student's after that.
That would be something I would do
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From my point of view, if the class is alr clearing and the teacher is packing his things, it's fine if sumone walks in and put his bag though.
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sure this is a third party view?
somehow like the TS is trying to beautified the behaviour of the student.
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i trying to write as 3rd party view as possibleOriginally posted by extrinsic:sure this is a third party view?
somehow like the TS is trying to beautified the behaviour of the student.
must hear other side of words.
cos im a student, so cos side more to student
teacher would also side more to teacher...
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IMO also, but im nt veri sure about that part....Originally posted by motoway:From my point of view, if the class is alr clearing and the teacher is packing his things, it's fine if sumone walks in and put his bag though. -
I think the entering part is wrong also, the student should not have entered.Originally posted by rainee:
I also think that the teacher should not get angry so easily, though the student must apologise to the teacher, i think the teacher would not apologise first, since both are angry at the same time. -
Yes, and since teaching have a high pay, they join the teaching force, I realise that expirenced teacher have their way of getting respect, some of the new teachers too, but somehow people are not able to control anger so properly.Originally posted by New Creation:Well you must appreciate that during the recession years of 2003, there were loads of cannot make it graduates who opted to join teaching becz of the higher ridiculous pay. Most of the younger GRADUATE Teachers came into the profession only for $$$.Thats the sole motivation.
Hence, i am not surprised you encountered such teachers who merely blow their top at students and pick a fight on students. The next time, your reply should be, "If you are so god damn capable, you wouldn't be here, but you should be out in the private sector!!!"
If a teacher is fighting with the student, would the student be in a wrong too? as teacher are civil servant, and harming them is wrong. -
sometimes must be safe than sorryOriginally posted by :If I were the student entering the class and I see the teacher inside, I would first knock on the door to ask permission to enter to park my stuff.......
It is not a matter of whether you are disrupting a lesson here. Rather, it's a matter of character refinement, common courtesy and respect.
There is no right/wrong in this case, there being no standard measure against which there can be a reference......
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If I'm the student, "Why don't YOU challenge me and lets 'dance'?"Originally posted by MyPillowTalks:Readme: Okay, just looking for all your opinions, no flaming required on how would u react if:
1. You are the teacher
2. You are the student
And who do you think is in a wrong
Your lesson just ended, and you are moving from another class, back to your own classroom. There is lesson going on, and they are already dismissed, moving out of the class soon. You just enter and put your belongings on ur table w/o distrupting the class, but the teacher shouted at you
Teacher: " Why are you coming into my class when im in here?"
( Bear in mind that the student did not distrupt the lesson )
The student just walk out w/o saying anything, in a sec the class exits the classroom and the angry teacher came out and started scolding the student.
Teacher shouts at the student: " Go to the General office "
Student say nicely: " give me one reason "
Teacher continues shouting the same thing, and soon the student angry also
Teacher: "tell me ur name"
Teacher: "you scared"?
(tone was trying to provoke, as u noe teacher is civil servant, and attacking a civil servant is wrong)
Student said:" Come la!"
So they continued to shout(no vulgarities), with hand actions
So, student starts to shout back already, and the teacher actually said: "want to challenge me? "
THey almost got into a fight if another teacher and student did not pull the teacher and student back.(if i saw correctly)
Also note that the teacher always punish 1/2 the class for not doing work, and the temper of the teacher is also not good. The student's mood was nt so good at that point
What would u do as a teacher and as a student??
Vent ur anger physically on the teacher, then talk later?
Apologise to the teacher after school?
Other actions?
Edit: More details can PM me, cant state too much info
Some teachers just aren't professional to be talking like that. I'm isolating soley on the words he used on the student. The teacher is just plain WRONG to speak like a gangster and to provoke a student into a fight. He ought to be sack for being a disgrace to the teaching profession. -
The student is definitely at fault.
Students at all times should regard teachers with respect, regardless of the situation. -
What if the teacher said that out of pure anger? does it counts?Originally posted by Shotgun:If I'm the student, "Why don't YOU challenge me and lets 'dance'?"
Some teachers just aren't professional to be talking like that. I'm isolating soley on the words he used on the student. The teacher is just plain WRONG to speak like a gangster and to provoke a student into a fight. He ought to be sack for being a disgrace to the teaching profession. -
Not true. Teachers are also humans. They err at times. But since teachers take up the sh** job to teach, then they ought to be shown some respect.Originally posted by humbaorox:teachers are always right
To the thread starter.
1) Let it be. Perhaps after a few days, both parties will forget about the whole incident.
2) If problem still persist. Wait till both parties have cooled down then have a chat with that teacher in the presence of a mediator - your school counsellor perhaps.
3) Be humble. See that it was also your fault that you walked into the class without asking for permission.
4) True. That teacher is also at fault for shouting and barking, and perhaps making a mountain out of a mole hill. Well, teachers are not saint. They err too.
5) A problem cannot be solved with violence nor can it be solved by the volume of one's voice. Forget about the challenge, construct peace instead. -
Be the new age student. Take out ur handphone and start videoing the teacher action. Dun even need to say a single word. For some reason, not reacting to any provoking seem to piss them off more then doing anything.
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this sounds great also.Originally posted by EarlNeo:Be the new age student. Take out ur handphone and start videoing the teacher action. Dun even need to say a single word. For some reason, not reacting to any provoking seem to piss them off more then doing anything.