Does prayers help in life?
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Originally posted by stupidissmart:
Precisely. If there is life after death, and it is a better life, why don't u encourage mass suicide ?
U can think and reason without the need to be able to do evil
Why does evil exist then can necessary lessons be learned ? U can still learn tat helping others give them happiness. U can still learn tat playing a piano is enjoyable. U can still learn science and apply it. In fact u can learn a lot of good things without evil. And it does not means helping other is senseless. U help other because they need help, not because u wanna go to heaven or something. U help a granny cross a road because u think it helps her. It is not senseless choice. It is meaningful even when there is no evil
With evil, wat do u learn ? U learn to be defensive to protect yourself. U learn to hurt others to prevent others from bullying u. U learn how to lie to prevent yourself being blamed. U learn how to cheat to earn money. All these r bad and necessary things to learn when evil is abound. But if evil is not around, these skills become redundant
Why does evil means being able to use your brain ? R u trying to say evil people r smarter then ? Then Ghandhi and mother teresa r idiots while einstein is pure evil. They r mutually independent events. Without evil, people can still learn how to play music or learn a language. Without evil, people can still research and study. Without evil, people can still make decisions. Evil and thinking r mutually exclusive. Give me an example why evil have to do with thinking.
U r making a logically flawed argument. U r saying animals r stupid and does not display morals code and conclude tat without displaying evil u r as stupid as animals. It is the same as saying smelly toufu (food) taste good if they use very smelly and rotten toufu and conclude all dishes must use smelly and rotten toufu to taste good.
suicide is sin......
wrong.....the only way for man to learn is to experience.....some people can becoz they learn from others's experience....so being able to do evil is imoprtant......its not about wot you have done, but wot you will do in the future
yes, smarter people are able to do more evil than dumb people coz dumb people dunno how to differenciate good and evil at times......
i didn't say einstein and ghandi was evil, but the fact that they were able to yet they didn't do it is an example that they are learned men........they learn and know wot is good and bad and they choose.....
like i said, in this world, without the ability to do evil, do you think people would've known wot is evil? same goes to animals, they dunno how to differenciate between doing evil and good....fighting for territories etc....men have many times over fought for territories to but we learn not to harm each other in the process over years and decades......animals, uptil now have still fought for territories the same way they did since who knows when.....people may still be killing now and then, history repeats itself but hell at least we learn from them......
if there is no evil, the world overpopulated.....global warmin may still happen and wot are we gonna do to the overpopulated world?
the world without evil maybe a good thing if you see it.....who wouldn't......but the most important thing is how you use it......many breakthrough technologies have been found from wars etc.....i know you would probably say that it is possible to find these technologies without war but it has happened.....you cannot change it....just live through the times......
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suicide is sin......
Suicide is sin only because someone tell tat to u. If u wanna your baby to go to heaven immediately, u should kill it and bear the sin yourself while your baby enjoy his life immediately in heaven
wrong.....the only way for man to learn is to experience.....some people can becoz they learn from others's experience....so being able to do evil is imoprtant......its not about wot you have done, but wot you will do in the future
Says who ? People learn because there is a need. They learn to farm because they need food. They learn to make cars because they can travel. It again has nothing to do with evil. U still cannot sure me an example how evil can facilitate men to learn the right thing
like i said, in this world, without the ability to do evil, do you think people would've known wot is evil? same goes to animals, they dunno how to differenciate between doing evil and good....fighting for territories etc....men have many times over fought for territories to but we learn not to harm each other in the process over years and decades......animals, uptil now have still fought for territories the same way they did since who knows when.....people may still be killing now and then, history repeats itself but hell at least we learn from them......
If there is no evil, why learn evil ? Fighting for territory is itself evil and without evil, there is no fight.
if there is no evil, the world overpopulated.....global warmin may still happen and wot are we gonna do to the overpopulated world?
If there is no evil, people still can do population control such as contraceptives etc. There is nothing evil using contraceptives. Effort to stem global warming can become stronger because men have no greed and they r willing to spend resources to combat the problem. Evil again has shown to cause more problems than solving them
the world without evil maybe a good thing if you see it.....who wouldn't......but the most important thing is how you use it......many breakthrough technologies have been found from wars etc.....i know you would probably say that it is possible to find these technologies without war but it has happened.....you cannot change it....just live through the times......
U really predict my response :D It is hard to esay whether war make science better because wars itself stop education, peace, research and kill scientists and people. If there is no war, maybe technology will become better due to the need of the people and with better resources.
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suicide is a way of running away and it should never ever be an option to resolve anything. because it always hurts the people who are left behind and they will have to resolve the problems you created.
there is always good out of every situation. in every situation, there are disadvantages and advantages. as you say,
"wars itself stop education, peace, research and kill scientists and people. If there is no war, maybe technology will become better due to the need of the people and with better resources."
In war, many lives were killed. when technology and life become better, a lot of weird diseases is coming up.
so it really depends on one's perspective. life is a matter of perspective though
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suicide is a way of running away and it should never ever be an option to resolve anything. because it always hurts the people who are left behind and they will have to resolve the problems you created.
Tat is correct if u interprete from a society point of view. However from a religion point of view it cannot answer why suicide is discouraged
In war, many lives were killed. when technology and life become better, a lot of weird diseases is coming up.
In wartime it doesn't means there is no diesease
Is just tat at peace time, more effort r spent on combatting dieseases and tat is why the highlight -
Originally posted by stupidissmart:
Tat is correct if u interprete from a society point of view. However from a religion point of view it cannot answer why suicide is discouraged
In wartime it doesn't means there is no diesease
Is just tat at peace time, more effort
r spent on combatting dieseases and tat is why the highlight
do you knoe that society point of view is influenced by a person's moral values. A person's values can come from a lot of places, his experience, his religion and his friends and family. you are only restricting your thoughts thoughi'm saying generally in war time but in today's world, yes life may get better and lifestyles changes , but there is always disadvantages and advantages no matter how you look at it though.
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Originally posted by stupidissmart:
Suicide is sin only because someone tell tat to u. If u wanna your baby to go to heaven immediately, u should kill it and bear the sin yourself while your baby enjoy his life immediately in heaven
Says who ? People learn because there is a need. They learn to farm because they need food. They learn to make cars because they can travel. It again has nothing to do with evil. U still cannot sure me an example how evil can facilitate men to learn the right thing
If there is no evil, why learn evil ? Fighting for territory is itself evil and without evil, there is no fight.
If there is no evil, people still can do population control such as contraceptives etc. There is nothing evil using contraceptives. Effort to stem global warming can become stronger because men have no greed and they r willing to spend resources to combat the problem. Evil again has shown to cause more problems than solving them
U really predict my response :D It is hard to esay whether war make science better because wars itself stop education, peace, research and kill scientists and people. If there is no war, maybe technology will become better due to the need of the people and with better resources.
well......it would've been a waste....you could teach your child to do good......
well learning from evil is the same as learning one's mistake.....once learn you try not to repeat the same mistake unless you choose to do it for some reason......
hmmm.....yesh without evil it would be possible.....i think evil also mould cultures in someway......
if out of 100 people, 1 is born with autism and stuff and they are a nuisance to the world population....wot would you propose to be done if the world has no evil?
wot if a virus spreads through a city and the risk of the virus spreading is damn high and no cure found.....wot would you do to the city?
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hello rlsh07.....you just woke up ah?
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Originally posted by Deino:
hello rlsh07.....you just woke up ah?
not really why?
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Originally posted by rlsh07:
not really why?
just asking......
sgf kinda quiet....
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i'm saying generally in war time but in today's world, yes life may get better and lifestyles changes , but there is always disadvantages and advantages no matter how you look at it though.
Well obviously the advantages r more than the disadvantages. U encourage people to have wars ?
well......it would've been a waste....you could teach your child to do good......
The ultimae goal is to go to heaven isn't it ? They could go to hell which is infinitely many times worse
well learning from evil is the same as learning one's mistake.....once learn you try not to repeat the same mistake unless you choose to do it for some reason......
Learning from mistakes is not learning from failure
U r mixing up failure and evil as the same thing. Evil is doing something tat harms other party while failure is the inability to make something succeed or work. They r different. U can learn from mistakes and failure but tat is different from learning evil. Learning evil means becoming evil.hmmm.....yesh without evil it would be possible.....i think evil also mould cultures in someway......
if out of 100 people, 1 is born with autism and stuff and they are a nuisance to the world population....wot would you propose to be done if the world has no evil?
If the world has no evil, then obviously society will help them more than if there is evil
wot if a virus spreads through a city and the risk of the virus spreading is damn high and no cure found.....wot would you do to the city?
I will quarrantine the city. And tat is not evil because I do it in good faith. If evil exist, then people becomes selfish and will try to escape from the quarantine and doom mankind.
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If you can't depend on family and govt then you depend on God...isn't this logical?
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If you can't depend on family and govt then you depend on God...isn't this logical?
Depend on yourself lor...
Only if god is true, then it is logical. Heck, if god is true, I believe in it even if I am bill gates
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u ah...
can oly pray for a miracle liao.
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Originally posted by stupidissmart:
Depend on yourself lor...
Only if god is true, then it is logical. Heck, if god is true, I believe in it even if I am bill gates
God is always true. it just depends on whether we want to find it a not
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Always pray for the second coming of messiah, our world has run her last leg
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God is always true. it just depends on whether we want to find it a not
and so is the flying spaghetti monster
Amen