Originally posted by Detached:-reserved-
Will come back to this, currently busy
Too late i already saw what you wrote.
In what ways have I been found wanting? =x
On a friendlier note, I enjoy debate, and no, I sometimes argue points I personally do not believe in, so please please don't hate me after this.
Originally posted by Danielhuang88:Too late i already saw what you wrote.
In what ways have I been found wanting? =x
On a friendlier note, I enjoy debate, and no, I sometimes argue points I personally do not believe in, so please please don't hate me after this.
let's allow Detached the chance to phrase his rebuttal carefully and to his liking, then we'll continue on meaningful debate =)
And i'd agree fully with your second point. I too enjoy debate, even when i take stands that I have no personal allegience to.
It wouldn't be so much of a problem if men shared the burden of taking care of the children and the home more equally (granted that they can't breastfeed, but they can do a million other things, and their presence at home is also very important), but the current provisions for that have not progressed much since the days when women were a rarity in the workforce.
you make a good point kuali, but wouldnt that entail a larger burden on both parties, having to manage so many different issues ?
That is why I feel that traditional gender roles should be adhered to. After all, thousands of years of tradition can't be all wrong can it ?
Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:you make a good point kuali, but wouldnt that entail a larger burden on both parties, having to manage so many different issues ?
That is why I feel that traditional gender roles should be adhered to. After all, thousands of years of tradition can't be all wrong can it ?
Only one partner will have to cope with more responsibilities. Otherwise, to paraphrase a fellow forumer, if you can't handle it, don't raise a family in the first place. It is not a duty to have a family anymore.
Societies have not always been patriarchal, and if you really reflect on it, the shift was actually set in motion when the workplace became increasingly separated from the home.
Originally posted by Danielhuang88:Too late i already saw what you wrote.
In what ways have I been found wanting? =x
On a friendlier note, I enjoy debate, and no, I sometimes argue points I personally do not believe in, so please please don't hate me after this.
If you argued points that you don't personally believed in, then maybe that explains why your arguments are equally weak as Hyperion.
Do you also likes to insult people who disagrees with you? ![]()
Originally posted by parn:If you argued points that you don't personally believed in, then maybe that explains why your arguments are equally weak as Hyperion.
Do you also likes to insult people who disagrees with you?
Don't generalise
Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:you make a good point kuali, but wouldnt that entail a larger burden on both parties, having to manage so many different issues ?
That is why I feel that traditional gender roles should be adhered to. After all, thousands of years of tradition can't be all wrong can it ?
Thousands of years of tradition is good, and it's going to be changed for the better.
Originally posted by parn:If you argued points that you don't personally believed in, then maybe that explains why your arguments are equally weak as Hyperion.
Do you also likes to insult people who disagrees with you?
parn, the difference is ...
we argue points that we might not believe in
you cant argue at all.
Originally posted by Beautiful951:Don't generalise
Don't interrupt
Originally posted by parn:If you argued points that you don't personally believed in, then maybe that explains why your arguments are equally weak as Hyperion.
Do you also likes to insult people who disagrees with you?
I'll have to agree with Hyperion. However I don't agree that i've insulted anyone, perhaps teased or jested their abilities to do certain tasks.
Also, I don't believe our arguments are weak, unless you can't argue at all because you have failed to expose a single hole in our cases.
Originally posted by parn:
Don't interrupt
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
parn, the difference is ...
we argue points that we might not believe in
you cant argue at all.
I can express my opinions better than you cos unlike you, I don't argue for the sake of doing so.
People like you who argue for no reason are just retarded. And it shows in their arguments, they have a tendancy to insult people when they realised they have nothing to argue about anymore. ![]()
Originally posted by Resentment:
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Please have a nice accident during your NS. ![]()
Originally posted by Danielhuang88:
I'll have to agree with Hyperion. However I don't agree that i've insulted anyone, perhaps teased or jested their abilities to do certain tasks.
Also, I don't believe our arguments are weak, unless you can't argue at all because you have failed to expose a single hole in our cases.
Not my problem if you chose not to realise it yourself.
Like I've mentioned, people who argued for the sake of doing it are simply retards.
Originally posted by parn:
I can express my opinions better than you cos unlike you, I don't argue for the sake of doing so.People like you who argue for no reason are just retarded. And it shows in their arguments, they have a tendancy to insult people when they realised they have nothing to argue about anymore.
Wrong , wrong and wrong. Do you know debate is an intellectual CCA ins schools? People like me and hyperion are not retarded. However I think we as intellectuals can forgive your myopic views.
We argue for the fun or arguing and taking differing view points. People like you tend to remain short sighted forever. I'm sorry about that.
And we will always find somthing to argue about because we constantly use our brains and find imperfections. You on the other hand fail to achieve either.
Originally posted by parn:
Don't interrupt
Don't be rude
Originally posted by parn:
Please have a nice accident during your NS.
How angelic this is.
Originally posted by parn:
Please have a nice accident during your NS.
u really like to curse ppl hor
becareful mei mei
u will reap what u sow
Originally posted by parn:
I can express my opinions better than you cos unlike you, I don't argue for the sake of doing so.People like you who argue for no reason are just retarded. And it shows in their arguments, they have a tendancy to insult people when they realised they have nothing to argue about anymore.
I have sustained my arguments throughout. All you have done is to bring up nonsense. I dont insult people who argue properly. But I dont have much patience for people like you.
Originally posted by Danielhuang88:
Wrong , wrong and wrong. Do you know debate is an intellectual CCA ins schools? People like me and hyperion are not retarded. However I think we as intellectuals can forgive your myopic views.
We argue for the fun or arguing and taking differing view points. People like you tend to remain short sighted forever. I'm sorry about that.
And we will always find somthing to argue about because we constantly use our brains and find imperfections. You on the other hand fail to achieve either.
Hahaha....wrong too, people who debated at CCA does their homework beforehand.
And arguing for the sake of fun is still going to make you look like a fool. Cos normal people don't argue without reason.
I guess both of your are 'special' people then. ![]()
Originally posted by noahnoah:
u really like to curse ppl horbecareful mei mei
u will reap what u sow
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u know why i use hand sign? cos even if i talk u also dun understand bitch!! wooo!
Originally posted by Danielhuang88:
Wrong , wrong and wrong. Do you know debate is an intellectual CCA ins schools? People like me and hyperion are not retarded. However I think we as intellectuals can forgive your myopic views.
We argue for the fun or arguing and taking differing view points. People like you tend to remain short sighted forever. I'm sorry about that.
And we will always find somthing to argue about because we constantly use our brains and find imperfections. You on the other hand fail to achieve either.
Are you guys debating about... debating?
this is getting really abstract...
Originally posted by noahnoah:
u really like to curse ppl horbecareful mei mei
u will reap what u sow
If you cannot see what he posted, then you are probably blind.
You should be MORE careful.
Originally posted by parn:Hahaha....wrong too, people who debated at CCA does their homework beforehand.
And arguing for the sake of fun is still going to make you look like a fool. Cos normal people don't argue without reason.
I guess both of your are 'special' people then.
What about for fun?