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Originally posted by Fatum:
so .... do you pray a lot ? ......
Yup i pray everyday even it may be a short prayer. its the heart dat matters, no point praying for hours if u dun mean it.but dat doesn't mean im holy which many people still dun get the true meaning of christianity. im still a sinner. i judge people, i scold vulgarities but at the end of the day, i apologised & admit my faults. most importantly is one must know his roots.
E.g, if u done someone wrong, would u apologise to the person if u knew it was ur fault?
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Originally posted by parn
Please refrain yourself and do not further insult GOD with your shallow-ness.
Prayer is the WAY of SEEKING GOD.
It has nothing to do with your sexual thoughts and twisted beliefs.
If race or colours really makes a difference in your shallow mind, then by all means please go and buy yourself 7 cans of Nippon paint and paint yourself into a rainbow.
And for your information, your friends don't really need to have sex with your girlfriend or sister when they want to seek you.
I do not insult God & i am certainly not shallow. Maybe u should read my other posts in Eternal Hope. I can proudly say i am more pious & devoted than you. I pray everyday & go church every sunday & i help people. but of cos dat doesn't mean i am not a sinner.
Many people still think sex as the way of the world does. But if u think it in God's way. Sex is holy & meant only for married couples. Get your facts right. Dats nothing to be ashamed of having sex openly in the eyes of God IF YOU ARE MARRIED.
i think you totally misterpreted my post. Mind if u read carefully, with your heart. Or maybe you dun get it becos you never went thru holy matrimony in church. And appreciate you dun judge me as you will be judged by others in turn.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
I do not insult God & i am certainly not shallow. Maybe u should read my other posts in Eternal Hope. I can proudly say i am more pious & devoted than you. I pray everyday & go church every sunday & i help people. but of cos dat doesn't mean i am not a sinner.
Many people still think sex as the way of the world does. But if u think it in God's way. Sex is holy & meant only for married couples. Get your facts right. Dats nothing to be ashamed of having sex openly in the eyes of God IF YOU ARE MARRIED.
i think you totally misterpreted my post. Mind if u read carefully, with your heart. Or maybe you dun get it becos you never went thru holy matrimony in church. And appreciate you dun judge me as you will be judged by others in turn.
Unlike you, I'm not afraid of being judged by others as I am not of this world. You claimed to be a Christian and yet you are using the world's opinions as your sword and shield. GOD should be your ONLY Shield and Sword, not the world and their opinions nor their judgement matters anything to you.You should know it's wrong to compare between Christians and yet you claimed to be more pious and devoted than me. I'm happy for you if you really are more pious and devoted than me...as I'm sure it will certainly bring joy to GOD.
Praying everyday and going to Church on Sunday or even everyday, does not makes you a Christian... as non-believers are all capable of doing that. And those illustrated actions of yours does not makes you a Christian.
Sex is holy??? Do not try to mix up sex with GOD. And do you know why does married couple have sex? Sex has nothing to do with GOD, please go and consult your own pastor and correct your lost and twisted belief.
If your belief is incorrect, it doesn't matter what you have contributed in Eternal Hope, which Church you come from, how many People you have helped or benefitted, or even who you are.
What matters most to Christians is their relationship with GOD.
Do you have a two-sided relationship with GOD?
If not, you should first seek after a two-sided relationship with GOD.
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Originally posted by parn:
Unlike you, I'm not afraid of being judged by others as I am not of this world. You claimed to be a Christian and yet you are using the world's opinions as your sword and shield. GOD should be your ONLY Shield and Sword, not the world and their opinions nor their judgement matters anything to you.You should know it's wrong to compare between Christians and yet you claimed to be more pious and devoted than me. I'm happy for you if you really are more pious and devoted than me...as I'm sure it will certainly bring joy to GOD.
Praying everyday and going to Church on Sunday or even everyday, does not makes you a Christian... as non-believers are all capable of doing that. And those illustrated actions of yours does not makes you a Christian.
Sex is holy??? Do not try to mix up sex with GOD. And do you know why does married couple have sex? Sex has nothing to do with GOD, please go and consult your own pastor and correct your lost and twisted belief.
If your belief is incorrect, it doesn't matter what you have contributed in Eternal Hope, which Church you come from, how many People you have helped or benefitted, or even who you are.
What matters most to Christians is their relationship with GOD.
Do you have a two-sided relationship with GOD?
If not, you should first seek after a two-sided relationship with GOD.
Your knowledge of Christ is indeed laughable. For your benefit since you are not afraid of being judged by others. Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged, because the judgements you give out are the judgements you will get, and the amount you measure out is the amount you will be given".
I repeat myself again. Sex is created by God & He only permits MARRIED COUPLES to have sex for the creation of children. There's nothing to be ashamed about. Unless you are a pervert, then you will perceive sex as porn.
Go get your facts right first before replying all your one-sided opinion.
I have a good r/ship with God by the way. He blessed me in all areas. Thanks.
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And oso i have been a catholic christian since the day i was born & never missed church since. Does dat make me a more worthy christian then some...like you?
And yah, sorry if i compare myself to you. I'm not perfect as i'm a sinner just like u have judged me.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
Your knowledge of Christ is indeed laughable. For your benefit since you are not afraid of being judged by others. Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged, because the judgements you give out are the judgements you will get, and the amount you measure out is the amount you will be given".
I repeat myself again. Sex is created by God & He only permits MARRIED COUPLES to have sex for the creation of children. There's nothing to be ashamed about. Unless you are a pervert, then you will perceive sex as porn.
Go get your facts right first before replying all your one-sided opinion.
I have a good r/ship with God by the way. He blessed me in all areas. Thanks.
Why don't you go and find out for yourself what does the word "judge" meant in that verse?This can help you a bit, what kind of "judging" were Matthew referring to?
For your information, I only pointed out all your wrong claims and interpretations as there is no need for you to convince anyone with your wrong interpretations.
Could you bring out any verse that support your twisted belief that Sex actually has anything to do with GOD?
I'm sure you have laughed at everyone who have the heart to give you kind advice that your interpretations of the Bible are incorrect.
And I'm don't mind if you are happy with my kind advice.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
And oso i have been a catholic christian since the day i was born & never missed church since. Does dat make me a more worthy christian then some...like you?
And yah, sorry if i compare myself to you. I'm not perfect as i'm a sinner just like u have judged me.
You have to ask GOD for the answer then.I don't mind if you compared yourself to me, I get that alot of times.
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Sister, this is a forum. You are entitled to your own opinion just as i am but pls dun go to the extend of being personal by calling me shallow in the first place. You just displayed your level of maturity by doing so. Just dat u still dun understand the actual meaning of sex. Sex is created by God for pro-creation. i dunno why u are so uptight about it.
Go join an RCIA(Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults) class in any catholic church & bring up this topic for discussion. I will end here as we can argue till the cows come home.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
Sister, this is a forum. You are entitled to your own opinion just as i am but pls dun go to the extend of being personal by calling me shallow in the first place. You just displayed your level of maturity by doing so. Just dat u still dun understand the actual meaning of sex. Sex is created by God for pro-creation. i dunno why u are so uptight about it.
Go join an RCIA(Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults) class in any catholic church & bring up this topic for discussion. I will end here as we can argue till the cows come home.
You should avoid discussing about religion especially when it is out of your scope and limitations.Despite being in a forum, you should have restrained your own tongue when you are talking about religion which many people here are aware of and it is likely to spark a confusion if the information is incorrect.
Sex have absolutely nothing to do with GOD, and you should not have come here and share your misled information without conviction just as you have been misled by others somewhere else.
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Originally posted by parn
You should avoid discussing about religion especially when it is out of your scope and limitations.Despite being in a forum, you should have restrained your own tongue when you are talking about religion which many people here are aware of and it is likely to spark a confusion if the information is incorrect.
Sex have absolutely nothing to do with GOD, and you should not have come here and share your misled information without conviction just as you have been misled by others somewhere else.
Pls go & brush up ur own christian knowledge & stop saying sex has absolutely nothing to do with God. God creates sex for pro-creation. How many times u want me to repeat? How do u think God can promised Abraham many, many descendants? I'm certainly not misleading people. You just refused to believe dats all becos u r living in ur own world of perceptions.
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Originally posted by parn:
Could you bring out any verse that support your twisted belief that Sex actually has anything to do with GOD?
Genesis 4:1 - The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. 'I have acquired a man with the help of Yahweh,' she said.Knowing obviously you will stubbornly disagree again, curious to know your interpretation.
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Ah... the battle of the Christian cliches!
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Then what you want them to write wor?
Please use "Oh G*d", "Oh J***s", "Oh My f*****g L**d"?
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
Then you should know that this behaviour of Adam and Eve does not have the approval of GOD, but it is done at the approval of Man.Do not simply browse through the Bible and quote me verses without understanding.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
Pls go & brush up ur own christian knowledge & stop saying sex has absolutely nothing to do with God. God creates sex for pro-creation. How many times u want me to repeat? How do u think God can promised Abraham many, many descendants? I'm certainly not misleading people. You just refused to believe dats all becos u r living in ur own world of perceptions.
That is correct, GOD created sex for pro-creation between Man and Woman.Now if you can kindly revert back to your previous post regarding how you tried to associate sex with prayer and worship, you can now go and slap yourself silly.
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Originally posted by parn:
Then you should know that this behaviour of Adam and Eve does not have the approval of GOD, but it is done at the approval of Man.Do not simply browse through the Bible and quote me verses without understanding.
U wanted to proof. Obviously i have to browse through the bible. Can u memorize everything? Of course i understand from my years of christianity & classes.Genesis 9:1 - God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them. "Be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth.
God creates life, and how does human being creates life? Thru sex. So God allows sex for pro-creation. This was not the approval of man. Get it right.
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Originally posted by parn:
That is correct, GOD created sex for pro-creation between Man and Woman.Now if you can kindly revert back to your previous post regarding how you tried to associate sex with prayer and worship, you can now go and slap yourself silly.
Now u r agreeing with me and in your past posts, u kept disagreeing. You contradicted urself. Who slapping who now? Haha... -
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
Now u r agreeing with me and in your past posts, u kept disagreeing. You contradicted urself. Who slapping who now? Haha...
I only agreed with you when you said "GOD created sex for pro-creation" between Man and Woman.There are no reasons why I should disagree with you when you were finally forced to revert to the Bible to seek the Truth.
Afterall, it's not YOU that I'm against. It's your own stupidity and failure to revert to the Bible before you come here and spread your twisted and false belief to others.
As a Christian, you should not be ashamed to admit your own mistake and weakness.
So you should not be ashamed to admit that you were WRONG to relate sex with prayer in your previous post, and correct yourself.
This incident will make sure that you will remember better next time.
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Originally posted by parn:
I only agreed with you when you said "GOD created sex for pro-creation" between Man and Woman.There are no reasons why I should disagree with you when you were finally forced to revert to the Bible to seek the Truth.
Afterall, it's not YOU that I'm against. It's your own stupidity and failure to revert to the Bible before you come here and spread your twisted and false belief to others.
As a Christian, you should not be ashamed to admit your own mistake and weakness.
So you should not be ashamed to admit that you were WRONG to relate sex with prayer in your previous post, and correct yourself.
This incident will make sure that you will remember better next time.
When something is dictate from God. It is considered to be holy. Ten commandments, holy matrimony, holy eucharist, the sacrements etc. Oh...but some denominations of christians dun believe in sacrements right? So maybe why after so many explanations u still dun comprehend.
Thus, God creates life from sex in human beings. So sex is considered a holy act. In christianity, one is NOT to have pre-marital sex until marriage, right? Sex is reserved strictly for married couples only. Thus, SEX IS SACRED. When something is sacred, it equals to a prayer. So a married couple having sex is as sacred as a prayer! Is prayer sacred? Anyway im not the only one who thinks this way. Dun treat me as a pervert or something. Go ask around in any catholic churches regarding this. And stop saying i have a twisted mind until u ASK. Dun keep stubbornly repeat your statements. Doing dat will only result in me seeing u in ur lack of knowledge "own world".
The world perceives sex as normal & a human pleasure. Unless u hav been doing it like having ur meals, u will agree with my above paragraph. Your refusal to believe my point of view if u alternatively see sex "dirty" might be of a certain personal reason which im not interested to go into.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
When something is dictate from God. It is considered to be holy. Ten commandments, holy matrimony, holy eucharist, the sacrements etc. Oh...but some denominations of christians dun believe in sacrements right? So maybe why after so many explanations u still dun comprehend.
Thus, God creates life from sex in human beings. So sex is considered a holy act. In christianity, one is NOT to have pre-marital sex until marriage, right? Sex is reserved strictly for married couples only. Thus, SEX IS SACRED. When something is sacred, it equals to a prayer. So a married couple having sex is as sacred as a prayer! Is prayer sacred? Anyway im not the only one who thinks this way. Dun treat me as a pervert or something. Go ask around in any catholic churches regarding this. And stop saying i have a twisted mind until u ASK. Dun keep stubbornly repeat your statements. Doing dat will only result in me seeing u in ur lack of knowledge "own world".
The world perceives sex as normal & a human pleasure. Unless u hav been doing it like having ur meals, u will agree with my above paragraph. Your refusal to believe my point of view if u alternatively see sex "dirty" might be of a certain personal reason which im not interested to go into.
See...you are trying to mislead the people here with your twisted imaginations again.
Sex itself is for the NEED for Man and Woman to reproduce. And Sex were NEVER considered as a holy or sacred act. It is your own imaginations that were trying to link up Sex as holy and sacred. You must know this too, non-Christians have a choice whether they want to have pre-martial sex or not. And it doesn't means if they choose to engage in sex only after marriage, they are committing a holy or sacred act.
And GOD does not create Humans from sex. It is Man and Woman who created other Humans by having sex. So sex itself is neither holy or sacred as you have painted in your twisted imaginations. Go seek help from your pastor if you don't believe me. But if that's what your pastor have been teaching you all this time, then I suggest you go and consult a different pastor.
Do not mix up sex as an holy or sacred act because it is just a NEED. And it is the same as eating, breathing and sleeping as they are both examples of NEED. You cannot reproduce or pro-create other than having sex. And even if you choose not to have sex like priests and nuns, it doesn't means you are not holy and you have disobeyed GOD because you have denied yourself from sex by your own choice.
And sex isn't a prayer as much as you have tried desperately to link them up as both sacred and tried to pass sex off as a prayer. Prayer is the way where Christians SEEK GOD. Christians seek GOD through praying. Worshipping is how Christians show their exaulted love for GOD.
If you are WRONG and has been taught with the wrong teachings, then don't expect anyone better to agree with you.
You can always choose to keep your twisted imaginations to yourself and keep your own mouth shut if you are somehow unhappy when people kindly informed you that you are incorrect.
Don't start any religion discussion unless you are absolutely sure of it. Otherwise, you can always bring it on.
You should thank your lucky stars that I'm didn't go to Eternal Hope forums and take a peek.
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Originally posted by parn:
See...you are trying to mislead the people here with your twisted imaginations again.
Sex itself is for the NEED for Man and Woman to reproduce. And Sex were NEVER considered as a holy or sacred act. It is your own imaginations that were trying to link up Sex as holy and sacred. You must know this too, non-Christians have a choice whether they want to have pre-martial sex or not. And it doesn't means if they choose to engage in sex only after marriage, they are committing a holy or sacred act.
And GOD does not create Humans from sex. It is Man and Woman who created other Humans by having sex. So sex itself is neither holy or sacred as you have painted in your twisted imaginations. Go seek help from your pastor if you don't believe me. But if that's what your pastor have been teaching you all this time, then I suggest you go and consult a different pastor.
Do not mix up sex as an holy or sacred act because it is just a NEED. And it is the same as eating, breathing and sleeping as they are both examples of NEED. You cannot reproduce or pro-create other than having sex. And even if you choose not to have sex like priests and nuns, it doesn't means you are not holy and you have disobeyed GOD because you have denied yourself from sex by your own choice.
And sex isn't a prayer as much as you have tried desperately to link them up as both sacred and tried to pass sex off as a prayer. Prayer is the way where Christians SEEK GOD. Christians seek GOD through praying. Worshipping is how Christians show their exaulted love for GOD.
If you are WRONG and has been taught with the wrong teachings, then don't expect anyone better to agree with you.
You can always choose to keep your twisted imaginations to yourself and keep your own mouth shut if you are somehow unhappy when people kindly informed you that you are incorrect.
Don't start any religion discussion unless you are absolutely sure of it. Otherwise, you can always bring it on.
You should thank your lucky stars that I'm didn't go to Eternal Hope forums and take a peek.
Writing a long post doesn't mean u r more correct than me in any way.
What i have learnt is from my years of experience in church, gatherings, retreats & classes. It's NOT from my OWN perception, unlike yours. Everything you have written is FROM YOUR OWN WORLD OF PERCEPTIONS! Have u found out anything i have said whether is if the truth? Or you are just shooting your mouth off cos you simply just disagree. You were the one who contested my claim in the first place so YOU should go find evidence to suggest i am wrong.
And no i did not say sex is prayer. I said SEX FOR MARRIED COUPLES MARRIED UNDER HOLY MATRIMONY=PRAYER becos both are considered sacred. But if you are not married, be it normal people, priests or nuns, you ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE SEX if you are a christian.
Have u been listening to my post? Open ur heart for once & stop all this one way traffic opinion of yours. You are just repeating & repeating. Stop nagging.
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And oh yes...pls take a look at my other posts in Eternal Forum if u want. I welcome you with open arms. No need to peek. I'm all for God
