will u help in such circumstances?
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i was at a 7-11 along joo chiat when i saw a woman, non singaporean who understood very very basic english. she wanted to buy prepaid card but the counterboy did not understand that so i was there to translate.
the counterboy took out a stack of sim card (the woman needs a local sim card to put credit in the card). subsequently he turned back to a computer behind him. the woman just took a sim card and inserted into her phone. then the counterboy said that she needed her passport to register the card. to save trouble, i offered my ic to the counterboy and said to register under my name.
i told my lawyer regarding it immediately and he told me off and insisted that i cancelled the line.
m i wrong to do that? if u were in my shoe, will u help?
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u shd just offer to translate, not your own IC
if the lady use the no. to 干�事 or she lost the phone and someone use it to 干�事, do u want to imagine wats going to happen or u would like me to say it out right? -
of course not.
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Originally posted by FireIce:
u shd just offer to translate, not your own IC
if the lady use the no. to 干�事 or she lost the phone and someone use it to 干�事, do u want to imagine wats going to happen or u would like me to say it out right?x 2. the number may be used for kidnapping or what, then u are the one in trouble.
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i just wanted to save trouble for me explaining to her and for her going back to her hotel and get her passport.
honestly i find nothing wrong do that. but yay, me lawyer told me the same thing. if she uses a drug lord and deals with drug in singapore. it will track down to me and i will be arrested and prosecuted for something i didnt do.
i told my friend also and she said its better to be safe than to be sorry.
i just want to help and show kindness. is it wrong to help?
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no wrong lah
u are kind
but u are stupid as well -
Help and show kindness, that's alright. Endangering yourself and your identity to help, that's going too far.
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Its not wrong to help, but u shld help when u can afford to.
In this case, u are like signing a blank cheque.
U are helping her, but not urself.
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Originally posted by Airry:
i just wanted to save trouble for me explaining to her and for her going back to her hotel and get her passport.
honestly i find nothing wrong do that. but yay, me lawyer told me the same thing. if she uses a drug lord and deals with drug in singapore. it will track down to me and i will be arrested and prosecuted for something i didnt do.
i told my friend also and she said its better to be safe than to be sorry.
i just want to help and show kindness. is it wrong to help?
it's not wrong to help, but under these kind of circumstances whereby it may do harm unto u, it's really better to be safe than sorry.
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totally agree...u r trying to b kind while saving urself trouble n time...
in the end u may end up getting urself into even deeper troubles
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okok, you are not wrong.
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ya. i was scolded stupid to the core.
i called singtel and asked about the line and the operator told me that the woman only made 1 local call and it left $17+. so i took the number from the operator and sent a sms to the number stating that im cancelling the line and if she wants back her $18, contact me. she didnt contact me anyway. i afraid she didnt understand my sms as its in english. im still abit guilty and feel bad about it. helped her but eventually wasted her money
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up to u lor. either u wanna cancel the line without informing her or pray that police don't come knocking ur door.
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i cancelled already. my lawyer insisted that i cancel infront of him.
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the poor gal lost $17+ cos your kindness ..
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yup. i know. so i decided not to show any kindness to stranger anymore. as long as none of my business. i will mind my own business.
now i understand y other nationalities commented that singaporean like us are heartless and audiences.
but sometimes i think it cannot be helped. ppl will take for granted of the kindness u show them or take advantage of it. like outside airport acting handicapped and having heavy luggages and wants u to carry it for them. turned out inside to be contraband items.
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sorry, i mean the poor gal lost $17+ cos your momentary thoughtless kindness resulted from your lacking of patience to provide adequate assistance ..
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eh.. u got her number right.. why didnt u call instead of sms???
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Originally posted by zodi:
eh.. u got her number right.. why didnt u call instead of sms???
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Save money mah, liddat. -
Most people are not drug lords. Chances are, she is not. Your instinct says she is not a bad person, so she probably won't use the line for any weird stuff.
If it was me, and if i get into this kind of position, I probably won't worry about it. Your lawyer's advice is true, and he is doing your job.
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she didnt understand english when i talked to her at the 7-11. we were using hand signals and very very basic english like "wat" "you" "me". i sms her hoping that she would let others to see the sms and contact me back. she didnt afterall
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Originally posted by Airry:
yup. i know. so i decided not to show any kindness to stranger anymore. as long as none of my business. i will mind my own business.
now i understand y other nationalities commented that singaporean like us are heartless and audiences.
but sometimes i think it cannot be helped. ppl will take for granted of the kindness u show them or take advantage of it. like outside airport acting handicapped and having heavy luggages and wants u to carry it for them. turned out inside to be contraband items.
You got the whole thing wrong, dude. You showed the wrong type of kindness which at the end causes inconvenience and lost of money. If you would have interpreted to the cashier and her that she needs to have passport or ic to purchase the sim card, then all the mess of cancelling the card, feeling insecure due to registration under your name, and the gal losing 17+ dollars wont even occur in the first place. Its the butterfly effect, dude. Hope you gotten more experience so that you can make the correct decisions next time. Who say you cannot help, but be smart loh. Even if you are not able to interprete, you can also any other person in the shop to help also. The short inconvenience of the gal going back to hotel to get her ic would have solved the whole problem. -
Originally posted by skythewood:
Most people are not drug lords. Chances are, she is not. Your instinct says she is not a bad person, so she probably won't use the line for any weird stuff.
If it was me, and if i get into this kind of position, I probably won't worry about it. Your lawyer's advice is true, and he is doing your job.
hm.. yup she wasnt a bad person at first. she seemed normal. i told that to my lawyer and he replied that everyone is normal on the appearance. and he gave me the airport example which i mentioned above. i was like, ok its true. it happens even in malaysia. so i think it all boils down to help sparely -
" like outside airport acting handicapped and having heavy luggages and wants u to carry it for them. turned out inside to be contraband items." - Airry
Something like this, you can always recommend say, "let me help you get a cart/trolley". Then offer him/her a trolley where she can push the luggage himself.
Or, politely decline, then ask the air crew or some staff to help him/her.
This is then the smarter way, dude.
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i mean as in outside the airport. like at the arrival hall.