How far do you agree that Singlish is gibberish?
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I suppose Singlish is a form of colloquialism. It creates a friendly atmosphere. However, speaking in Singlish has got its disadvantages. For example, when forced to speak in formal English (job interviews), stuttering and stammering will increase. If it goes beyond the interviewer's acceptable standard of non-fluency, then there is a chance you're out.
Futhermore, Singlish is only understood by people in Singapore. It has got zero value out of Singapore.
After seeing my side of the arguement, are you convinced to speak in proper English? If you feel that it sounds peculiar to speak proper English in the Singaporean slang/accent, speak like the natives!
If you have got a pro Singlish point of view, you are welcome to join in the debate.
I have heard people saying it gives a sense of national identity. However, to make Singlish a form of national identity is almost the same as making littering a form of national identity. Speaking Singlish reflects badly about the education you have received and should you make that a form of national identity? Bad education? Instead we should use good things to give us a sense of national identity. For example by being kind.
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i love to speak singlish and i do know how to speak english. u dun knoe?
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By speaking Singlish you are limiting how high your standard of English can go. I suppose at times when you think you are speaking English you are not actually speaking proper English. Perhaps your audience did not know also so they did not correct you.
For example, the overly used "with regards to" is wrong. The correct way is "with regard to".
This is the problem with media. They repeat the wrong things so many times that after some time, nobody bothers to think otherwise. Repetition. That is what the media uses. If you use the power of repetition in your studies then it would help you a lot after knowing how powerful it is.
Another example: "Irregardless" does not exist in proper English. It should be "Regardless".
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Originally posted by kaixax555:
By speaking Singlish you are limiting how high your standard of English can go. I suppose at times when you think you are speaking English you are not actually speaking proper English. Perhaps your audience did not know also so they did not correct you.
For example, the overly used "with regards to" is wrong. The correct way is "with regard to".
This is the problem with media. They repeat the wrong things so many times that after some time, nobody bothers to think otherwise. Repetition. That is what the media uses. If you use the power of repetition in your studies then it would help you a lot after knowing how powerful it is.
Another example: "Irregardless" does not exist in proper English. It should be "Regardless".
u dun knoe me. then how do u know i dun speak proper english? are you bus555?
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by the way i do not think it's giberrish. it's just a certain way that people speak english. like the way australians speak english and the way americans speak english.
i think most singaporeans would know the right time to use proper english and to use singlish.
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When you speak English, as long as it's understandable, IMO it's fine. However, I've noticed that Singaporeans' written English is most of the time terrible, which can be a problem.
I'm not Singaporean, and I've had trouble understanding people when ordering pizza or talking to a customer service representative because of their heavy accents. That can be a problem.
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Originally posted by da-vid:
When you speak English, as long as it's understandable, IMO it's fine. However, I've noticed that Singaporeans' written English is most of the time terrible, which can be a problem.
I'm not Singaporean, and I've had trouble understanding people when ordering pizza or talking to a customer service representative because of their heavy accents. That can be a problem.
i think i'm quite sure those weren't Singaporeans you spoke to heh
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Well, I am not totally against using Singlish. Like it or not Singlish is a way of life in Singapore. .
So long as your English foundation is firm and good, you will have not problem switching from Singlish to English. I speak Singlish to peers and family members but during interviews and communicating with bosses I will not use Singlish.
However, I should say Singlish is not accepted internationally. It is sad that many Singaporeans don't see the importance of learning and using proper English. I still encourage people to learn proper English.
"You got eat or not?" ha a ha ha ha! I hear people over using the word "got" so many many times, sometimes I just tease people and say that God is in heaven. Ha ha ha ha
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Originally posted by kaixax555:
Another example: "Irregardless" does not exist in proper English. It should be "Regardless".
it exists.....
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Well, I am not totally against using Singlish. Like it or not Singlish is a way of life in Singapore. .
So long as your English foundation is firm and good, you will have not problem switching from Singlish to English. I speak Singlish to peers and family members but during interviews and communicating with bosses I will not use Singlish.
However, I should say Singlish is not accepted internationally. It is sad that many Singaporeans don't see the importance of learning and using proper English. I still encourage people to learn proper English.
"You got eat or not?" ha a ha ha ha! I hear people over using the word "got" so many many times, sometimes I just tease people and say that God is in heaven. Ha ha ha ha
so what it's not accept internationally? so what?
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Originally posted by rlsh07:
so what it's not accept internationally? so what?
so wat meh so wat lor! ha ha ha h h ha.
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clone alert, Bus555?
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i speaka engalish and english.how?
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How far do you agree that Singlish is gibberish?
So whose fault?
The fault lies with the baba bastard Lee Kuan Yew.
When we discuss topics about the origins of singlish we must point to the source of the problem.
In this case, the source is the baba bastard Lee Kuan Yew.
He was the one who came up with the bastardised bilingual policy.
According to Lee Kuan Yew, people can learn to be expertise in two languages under such a educational policy.
He was totally and completely wrong.
What we got was singlish.
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It is not the fault of LKY.
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It is not the fault of LKY.
Why not?
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Why not?
if people wanna use Singlish what has that got to do with LKY? He did mention that English should be used so that it can be understood internationally.it benefit one and all for one to speak good English
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Wah lau eh!
How you connect Singlish with littering?
Singlish = bad education. What speaking you? Education is very wide ok, includes science, mathematics, history, and social sciences and what not. Singlish or any other speak you develop your own.
You want to speak like Queen of England and call yourself a Singaporean?
You know what is national identity or not. When Singaporean talk and ABC talk and you cannot tell the difference, you will be proud izzit?
Look kiddo, if you cannot Singlish, go do Afro-American rap, or the Texas drawl, or the Ozzie lingo or what ever that would swell your noggins.
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if people wanna use Singlish what has that got to do with LKY?It's not that simple.
Because of the educational system and the english media, and government usage, most people will get their language mixed up and bastardised into singlish, unless they put in extra effort.
Your father speaks singlish?
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Originally posted by kaixax555:
I suppose Singlish is a form of colloquialism. It creates a friendly atmosphere. However, speaking in Singlish has got its disadvantages. For example, when forced to speak in formal English (job interviews), stuttering and stammering will increase. If it goes beyond the interviewer's acceptable standard of non-fluency, then there is a chance you're out.
Futhermore, Singlish is only understood by people in Singapore. It has got zero value out of Singapore.
After seeing my side of the arguement, are you convinced to speak in proper English? If you feel that it sounds peculiar to speak proper English in the Singaporean slang/accent, speak like the natives!
If you have got a pro Singlish point of view, you are welcome to join in the debate.
I have heard people saying it gives a sense of national identity. However, to make Singlish a form of national identity is almost the same as making littering a form of national identity. Speaking Singlish reflects badly about the education you have received and should you make that a form of national identity? Bad education? Instead we should use good things to give us a sense of national identity. For example by being kind.
I suppose Singlish is a form of colloquialism. It creates a friendly atmosphere. However, speaking in Singlish has got its disadvantages. For example, when forced to speak in formal English (job interviews), stuttering and stammering will increase. If it goes beyond the interviewer's acceptable standard of non-fluency, then there is a chance you're out.
>> Singlish can be defined as a variety of English with a standard set of grammatical rules and specialized set of vocabulary. Singlish is maintained at this equilibrium, without the risk of it turning into a creole in the near future due to the enforcement of teaching Standard English in our education system. I too agree that being too used to speaking Singlish can cause us to stutter and stammer. This is where we can do our part: If you would like Singlish to be accepted by our society, let all of us have a positive view on Singlish and speak more of it and once it is codified in the future, Singlish will become the standard language.
Futhermore, Singlish is only understood by people in Singapore. It has got zero value out of Singapore.
>> Agree. Same with all other varieties of English all over the world
After seeing my side of the arguement, are you convinced to speak in proper English? If you feel that it sounds peculiar to speak proper English in the Singaporean slang/accent, speak like the natives!
>> At the time as I am typing, I am convinced we need to speak in proper English for reality sake. At the same time, I do not feel speaking Singlish is peculiar to fellow Singaporeans.
If you have got a pro Singlish point of view, you are welcome to join in the debate.
>> I don't really want to join in a debate as we should see language choice/learning/teaching/policies both from a prescriptivist and descriptivist approach and I have to use a lot of examples which is time consuming, and today I not really free. I may join when I free.
I have heard people saying it gives a sense of national identity. However, to make Singlish a form of national identity is almost the same as making littering a form of national identity. Speaking Singlish reflects badly about the education you have received and should you make that a form of national identity? Bad education? Instead we should use good things to give us a sense of national identity. For example by being kind.
>> As mentioned by me in the 1st paragraph and the previous paragraph, if we can see this aspect in a descriptivist approach, something not accepted can become something accepted. You also have many other things to compare with instead of "littering" which our society now has a negative connotation. In the scientifically linguistic point of view, strictly there is no such thing as "good" and "bad" language, as all connotations are man-made, thus it is on the socio-linguistic level that people's acceptance to language is measured. So well, time will tell. :-)
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i donch uberstand wats euuu trying chu sae leh
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I don't understand what you're trying to say.
Tell me. Seriously, which phrase sounds better?
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Originally posted by yourmotherrr:
i donch uberstand wats euuu trying chu sae leh
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I don't understand what you're trying to say.
Tell me. Seriously, which phrase sounds better?
Of course, the second sentence sounds better.This topic can be a touchy subject. It can be offensive to some.
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if singlish is used only for conversational purposes amongst locals,there's nothing wrong.if it's used in a formal conversation,something is wrong with the person.
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The older people don't speak singlish.
That is because they were not educated in the "bilingual" system.
And who came up with the system?
The baba bastard Lee Kuan Yew.
Our entire language policy all turned into one bloodly mess by that bastard.
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I do come across minority of Singaporeans who do not speak Singlish. These people I admire.