Anyone here would like to leave singapore for Tokyo?
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Hey all... My very 1st post after viewing sgforums all the time =D
Anyway im a 22 year old that previously had an attachment in Tokyo NEC before during school days... ever since that visit, i start to compare tokyo VS singapore.
Tokyo people are less selfcentered at work... japanese believe in kaizen spirit... which NEC ppl actually likes me alot coz i can work like them and play like them... Japanese has this politeness that i really love alot. All 4 seasons... many many more...
Don't know how many people here actually likes being spoon feed and have your life shield by Singapore. But don't you have this idiot feeling that ur life is being shield so you can live... not for yourself, but for Singapore...
What is the point of living if you are not living properly... how many of you here has visited Tokyo before too and prefer to live there or how many prefer to stay in SG still.
Im gonna serve my NS soon on the 9th June, after 2 years i feel like going over to tokyo with an amount to support me jobless for a minimum of 1/2 year and over there maybe start growing my roots again.
Dear viewers do let me know what i miss out..
E.g. Impossible to stay in tokyo for such a long period due to 10 years NS service in SG? Something SG has tokyo don't ? and many many more... im sure my idea actually has alot of flaws. TY TY ALL
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I heard the price of rice there is more than sending a 20kg bag of rice from here to there.
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Oh thats long rice, yes long rice there is 1000 Yen = $16 SGD for a pack of 5KG thai long rice
But since ure in japan most ppl eat pearl rice... expands more than normal rice
3/4 cup = 1 cup normal long rice
600Yen can get a pack of 5kg pearl rice
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No wonder I always have problems finishing that bowl.
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Japan people discriminates Gai Jin. After you ORD, going to japan is small issue. have fun there.
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Originally posted by Lloydtheman:
Hey all... My very 1st post after viewing sgforums all the time =D
Anyway im a 22 year old that previously had an attachment in Tokyo NEC before during school days... ever since that visit, i start to compare tokyo VS singapore.
Tokyo people are less selfcentered at work... japanese believe in kaizen spirit... which NEC ppl actually likes me alot coz i can work like them and play like them... Japanese has this politeness that i really love alot. All 4 seasons... many many more...
Don't know how many people here actually likes being spoon feed and have your life shield by Singapore. But don't you have this idiot feeling that ur life is being shield so you can live... not for yourself, but for Singapore...
What is the point of living if you are not living properly... how many of you here has visited Tokyo before too and prefer to live there or how many prefer to stay in SG still.
Im gonna serve my NS soon on the 9th June, after 2 years i feel like going over to tokyo with an amount to support me jobless for a minimum of 1/2 year and over there maybe start growing my roots again.
Dear viewers do let me know what i miss out..
E.g. Impossible to stay in tokyo for such a long period due to 10 years NS service in SG? Something SG has tokyo don't ? and many many more... im sure my idea actually has alot of flaws. TY TY ALL
It is an interesting idea you have there, but I highly doubt most singaporeans
can move over there and take tokyo as their home.Japan is too different from Singapore in many ways, not only in terms of language and culture, but also the attitude of the people.
Let me list some of the common and basic differences:
1) Japanese people teach their children to be independent from young, hence their children are very independent, to the point where they can take the train by themselves for 15km+ to buy grocery at as young as 4 years old. Ask a singaporean child to do that, and you will be considered lucky if your child somehow manage to find their way home by themselves.
In short, we are too spoon-fed to be able to adapt to the much tougher society over there where the people take care of themselves more than the government led them by the noses.
2) Language problem. Japanese as a language is already not really that easy to learn, somemore one will have to learn how to differentiate between the different ways to write a single word, it will take a lot of time and patience for one to be able to truly communicate in propere japanese.
3) Japanese people are very polite as compared to singaporeans as you have noticed yourself, to them, it is as bad as a sin not to be polite towards those around them, no matter how much they dislike them. Of course, the younger generation is slowly growing out of this tradition, but I will say their kids are still much polite than the Singaporean ones. If a Singaporean goes over there and does not pick up their habit fast, he/she will easily offend a lot of people.
4) Singaporeans are very use to complaining about everything left and right, in Japan, they don't do this. Instead, they find innovative ways to solve whatever problems that they might have. Hence, their people often come up with a lot of interesting items and solutions to problems, whereas Singaporeans just keep up their whining about this and that without doing anything to make their own lives better.
As you have said so yourself, such a list will be nearly non-exhaustive, so I will just list these few points here. If you truly immigrate to Japan after your NS, I will say that you are truly an admirable and brave person, for you are willing to try and change your own life.
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OMG forbidden sinner, well written there! impressive... im really bad with my words i guess. I feel the same for singaporeans, too spoon feed. Some people think that im ruining my life playing god to start my life all over again. But to me this is a respect my life deserve, to respectfully go according what my character is like... imagine a yellow dot on a red picture and a yellow dot on a yellow picture... i wanna be a blend in, im given a title of excessive gesture(E.g. being not self centered, willful, disciplined, stupidly independent) in singapore Amazingly my attachment mentor are impressed by the speed i adapt to Nihongo and the fluent... as though i was born there, too much wishful thinking LOL!
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Gaijin to them are just like how we see foreigner But u imagine a foreigner that is very cool, with alot of singlish, very kiasu, very singaporean. It's though they are meant to born there. i believe singaporeans will like them alot just like how i feel i will be accepted
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as long as u are happy........
wish u all the best.
if in any case u feel that SG is actually better, we will welcome u back. -
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Yeah tt will be in consideration, thanks fireice! But if staying overseas for 1/2 year need Visa and? How visa works? coz the prev time is sch do for us
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Originally posted by Lloydtheman:
Yeah tt will be in consideration, thanks fireice!
But if staying overseas for 1/2 year need Visa and?
How visa works?
coz the prev time is sch do for usHuh, you mean you never checked before you said you want to stay for a long time in tokyo?
Now you make it sound like you said it because its shiok to say something like that. -
Babelfish, sorry i can't real that, issit chinese? i see alot of error squares, can someone help me translate please? ty very much
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Originally posted by Lloydtheman:
Babelfish, sorry i can’t real that, issit chinese?
i see alot of error squares, can someone help me translate please?
ty very muchI translate it for you. It says "If you can't read this, you're not fit to be in Japan."
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I stay before, not for a holiday but for attachment But tt time is lecturer apply visa for us, so i know nuts But i know it can be done... just dont know the rules and the criteria. Maybe someone here is knowledgeable with visa DOs and DOnts Anw my reason to post now and not wait 2 years later, is my job to prepare... so i dont wait until last min then realise its impossible coz of this and that Ditzy: haha ok but sadly it's not that i can't read, it's my comp =/ Ughhh! my com cannot go japan then
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外国的月亮比较圆
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Originally posted by Lloydtheman:
Babelfish, sorry i can’t real that, issit chinese?
i see alot of error squares, can someone help me translate please?
ty very much
its japanese hehe.. i just write it for fun.. anyway i think japan is similar to singapore.. u can be there for vacation.. but staying there for extended periods.. well expenses will be quite high theres for sure.. unless u can find some way of spending lesser and curb ur shopping urges! hehe.. -
LOL yeah it's not easy to have savings there like singapore though... Okok guys forgive me, my com can't read japanese writing whats that again fireice?
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Originally posted by Lloydtheman:
LOL yeah it’s not easy to have savings there like singapore though…
Okok guys forgive me, my com can’t read japanese writing
whats that again fireice?It says:"If you can't read this, you suck."
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Ok saw it with my bro's comp already... Hmm ok maybe my current situation comes into the problem now Im 22 years old, going tru NS soon 9th june I have a loving girlfriend, average family I own a company with 3 other partners called Zenearh In-line A inline skating school taking west areas, conducting lessons and workshops for schools It's not about laying my roots there, i have confidence in my strong will It's now about uprooting this semi-deep root i have in singapore.... which person besides me will leave Singapore in current state other than me?
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Originally posted by Lloydtheman:
LOL yeah it’s not easy to have savings there like singapore though…
Okok guys forgive me, my com can’t read japanese writing
whats that again fireice?
It is in chinese, and it means the foreign moon is rounder. -
Yeah thanks forbidden, tho i can't read the above sentance well but agar agar understood. Thanks again!
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You have to consider the opportunity costs as well. While your peers are climbing up the corporate ladder, you are gaining a different set of experiences, which is not bad if it is what you want but it is bad if you do not realise it.
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althought i hate singapore alot.
but tokyo is not for humans to live!
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hmm. i know this indian couple who were attached there for awhile. he was working in cisco.
they had a good time, =)