Wait wait...
Make sure our asses are covered first...
Then if they still want to sue us... We expose whatever happened and make it public. I intend to break to the press leh... But Jason never give his approval...
Originally posted by jayh272416:they want to suicide, let them.
I already start digging for info on that. Every self-respecting member here who sarrports Jason should also do so~...
but may i know non-seizable cases in trials
are usually sucessful or not ?
what's harriet educational grp?
Originally posted by didooerq:but may i know non-seizable cases in trials
are usually sucessful or not ?
They can't seize the server~...
Originally posted by didooerq:but may i know non-seizable cases in trials
are usually sucessful or not ?
context: American Law
copy-n-paste for topic related reading
http://www.chillingeffects.org/johndoe
Meet John Doe.
The Internet has given voice to millions of people who can now share their ideas and thoughts under cover of a pseudonym or screen name. This protection has been critical to opening up discussions among shareholders, political dissidents, victims of domestic abuse, "whistleblowers," and disgruntled employees. But this same anonymity can also shield the stealers of trade secrets and copyrighted material and prevent the unmasking of libel.
The ability of Internet service providers (ISPs) to unmask anonymous subscribers and users has proven to be a weakness in the protection of freedom of expression on the Internet. Companies angry about comments criticizing them on public message boards, for example, have found that they can simply file a civil lawsuit with vague, unsupported claims, then issue a subpoena to the discussion's host ISP demanding the identity of the speaker. These subpoenas have effectively shut off discussion in many public forums. ISPs have recently begun to notify their subscribers when they receive these subpoenas, giving them at least a limited opportunity to object. Yet still, many subscribers do not respond in time and their identities are turned over with no analysis of whether their speech actually caused any harm.
Recently, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has initiated similar "John Doe" lawsuits, alleging copyright infringement against hundreds of anonymous internet users at a time, and then issuing subpoenas to ISPs to connect names to IP addresses. Although the RIAA presents evidence of copyright infringement by some anonymous defendants in its court filings before it issues subpoenas, the RIAA subpoenas the names of far more defendants solely on the basis of its allegations. As in the case of message board subpoenas, some ISPs notify subscribers before identifying them, giving them a chance to object, but not all ISPs do so. The RIAA has been saving itself court costs by filing a single lawsuit against all alleged infringers who subscribe to the same ISP, regardless of the probable physical location of the alleged infringers; therefore, subscribers who are notified of a subpoena by their ISP and wish to object may be forced to interact with a court on the other side of the country. In short, subpeonas issued in "John Doe" lawsuits are shifting the burden to anonymous internet users to fight for their anonymity.
http://www.chillingeffects.org/johndoe/faq.cgi
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Question: How is Internet anonymity affected by John Doe lawsuits?
Answer: Often called "CyberSLAPP" suits, these lawsuits typically involve a person who has posted anonymous criticisms of a corporation or public figure on the Internet. The target of the criticism then files a lawsuit so they can issue a subpoena to the Web site or Internet Service Provider (ISP) involved and thereby discover the identity of their anonymous critic. The concern is that this discovery of their identity will intimidate or silence online speakers even though they were engaging in protected expression under the First Amendment.
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Question: Why is anonymous speech important?
Answer: There are a wide variety of reasons why people choose to speak anonymously. Many use anonymity to make criticisms that are difficult to state openly - to their boss, for example, or the principal of their children's school. The Internet has become a place where persons who might otherwise be stigmatized or embarrassed can gather and share information and support - victims of violence, cancer patients, AIDS sufferers, child abuse and spousal abuse survivors, for example. They use newsgroups, Web sites, chat rooms, message boards, and other services to share sensitive and personal information anonymously without fear of embarassment or harm. Some police departments run phone services that allow anonymous reporting of crimes; it is only a matter of time before such services are available on the Internet. Anonymity also allows "whistleblowers" reporting on government or company abuses to bring important safety issues to light without fear of stigma or retaliation. And human rights workers and citizens of repressive regimes around the world who want to share information or just tell their stories frequently depend on staying anonymous – sometimes for their very lives
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Question: Must an ISP or message board host delete postings that someone tells him/her are defamatory? Can the ISP or message board delete postings in response to a request from a third party?
Answer: 47 U.S.C. sec. 230 gives most ISPs and message board hosts the discretion to keep postings or delete them, whichever they prefer, in response to claims by others that a posting is defamatory or libelous. Most ISPs and message board hosts also post terms of service that give them the right to delete or not delete messages as they see fit and such terms have generally been held to be enforceable under law.
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Originally posted by jayh272416:they want to suicide, let them.
Hmm, I smell bad kidneys. ![]()
there is nothing more dumb than trying to advertise in sticky
Any updates on the case?
Originally posted by Yujinwen001:there is nothing more dumb than trying to advertise in sticky
Hahahah Fifi you epic rox~!
if really want to blow this up. screenshot the first post in this thread, and put in stomp. sure big hooha, and will get things moving. either they will back down. or they will pursue the matter.
Now... I'm really interested in seeing the posts that cause this epic...
Interesting... any updates ?
Now they(school) made a name in sgforum
They should be happy, now got more peoples know about them
Great that Jason reposted the "incriminating" posts.
A simple google search reveals more online posts that were not removed by their respective forum owners as well
http://www.sgclub.com/singapore/beware_harriet_educational_91898.html
Posted by the admin of this forum as well
http://www.singaporejobsmarket.com/forum/news/6861-private-school-dispute-agents-harriet-educational-group.html
Originally posted by superlibra:so anyone tipped the newspapers already?
Stomp it? ![]()
Think the intention with this so call lawsuit is to shut down negative comments on sgforum about their suspected reptuation.
Might as well call up the newspaper and ask them report about this so whole singapore will know about this!
lol!
Harriet Educational Group
if you are reading this
KISS MY ASS!
Originally posted by limpshaggy:Think the intention with this so call lawsuit is to shut down negative comments on sgforum about their suspected reptuation.
Might as well call up the newspaper and ask them report about this so whole singapore will know about this!
lol!
Correct. They are trying to "stifle" the free citizen press by obstructing free speech, giving the excuse of defaming the company~
they just issue the threat only lar. they willing to spend so much time on this? mind you, they also need to pay their lawyers.
if not, why not call the TNP reporter and tell them this story, and then let singaporeans decide lol.
That's why someone should stomp it! ![]()
Originally posted by eagle:That's why someone should stomp it!
Moi wants to...
me sarport u ![]()
see their lawyer letter... now I know which firm not to recommend
But hor... From their website
WongPartnership LLP is one of the largest law firms in Singapore with over 230 lawyers offering a full range of legal services. The Firm also has a well-established office in China, two offices in the Middle East and a growing practice in the region. Recognised as a market leader, the Firm is consistently ranked at the highest levels by international commentators in all its major practices.
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Originally posted by eagle:me sarport u
see their lawyer letter... now I know which firm not to recommend
But hor... From their website
haha.. that's what they say on their website, who knows if they actually are good? I can also say that I have connections in countries all over the world. Talk is cheap la. ![]()
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