Vietnamese
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Hey, what do you think of this race?
Many people complain many Viets who study in NUS and NTU are very proud, even more arrogant than the PRC scholars?
I just got fucked by one who is power greedy.
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Originally posted by dare82:
Hey, what do you think of this race?
Many people complain many Viets who study in NUS and NTU are very proud, even more arrogant than the PRC scholars?
I just got fucked by one who is power greedy.
They are not any different in Oz.
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I have not met them though...
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i always like to say good luck to the men who buy viet brides
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Originally posted by ditzy:
They are not any different in Oz.
Yah but the ones who go to Oz are richer.They can afford whatever FUCK they wanna buy.
However, they must be careful not to offend the whites there as I am aware how racist they are. As racist as Georgia, Mississippi and Alabama in the USA.
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Well. Just say your feelings about them. They are not of our races here. Racial Harmony Day does not include them.
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Originally posted by FireIce:
i always like to say good luck to the men who buy viet brides
why leh? -
wah.... pain or not?? front or back?? god bless u
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Looks like racial topics are very popular nowadays huh?
If you have bad experience with someone, why dont you evaluate his/ her personality and character, why do you become fixated with his race and then try to generalize and stereotype?
What is the use of this excercise?
I think you are only dumbing yourself and sabotaging yourself with this kind of mentality.
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OK. At least it's not unlawful to pass snide judgements about a race outside Singapore. Not under the Sedition Act.
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I have not much personal experience with Viets, but let's talk about culture and history.
(not stereotypes etc)
From my reading and little knowledge, I think they are kins of Chinese people.
Basically they are Yue descendants who went downwards and expanded down.
They have some relations with Cantonese (Yue also)
But today they are not exactly the same with Cantonese because they have mixed somewhat with locals such as Tai and Khmer groups.
But I think they are still relatively related to Chinese people, and in terms of culture they are quite related as well. For instance celebrating Lunar New Year, follow Confucianism/ Buddhism, and even the language use a lot of Chinese loan words. In the past they even used Chinese characters before changing into romanization method.
To me Viet culture is still relatively unknown, maybe due to wars, but in the future as their country recover and build up, I have a feeling we will see more impact and influence of them. For instance, they will send out more students, produce more movies and dramas, have a few strong international brands/ companies, and so on.
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so far havent met any stuck up viet or rather, high educated viet.
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Originally posted by Meat Bao:
I have not much personal experience with Viets, but let's talk about culture and history.
(not stereotypes etc)
From my reading and little knowledge, I think they are kins of Chinese people.
Basically they are Yue descendants who went downwards and expanded down.
They have some relations with Cantonese (Yue also)
But today they are not exactly the same with Cantonese because they have mixed somewhat with locals such as Tai and Khmer groups.
But I think they are still relatively related to Chinese people, and in terms of culture they are quite related as well. For instance celebrating Lunar New Year, follow Confucianism/ Buddhism, and even the language use a lot of Chinese loan words. In the past they even used Chinese characters before changing into romanization method.
To me Viet culture is still relatively unknown, maybe due to wars, but in the future as their country recover and build up, I have a feeling we will see more impact and influence of them. For instance, they will send out more students, produce more movies and dramas, have a few strong international brands/ companies, and so on.
Meat Bao, you are so well-versed !
My interest is in Asian cultures as well, and as above what you said is very substantiated. Everything is correct.
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how come they speak so differently from chinese dialects.
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I dont know, but some words, actually it seems to be quite a lot, are Chinese loan words/ absorbed words.
Even their surnames are Chinese surnames, or how should I say, have Chinese equivalent.
For instance, Tranh Tan Vao (notice the 3 names system) this surname "Tranh" maybe is "Chan" in Mandarin equivalent. (this is just example). It is like this.
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Originally posted by marcteng:
how come they speak so differently from chinese dialects.
as what Meat Bao had mentioned, they were partly Yue people who went downwards and mixed with the Tai and Khmer groups.
in the first place, the language of the Yue, Tai, and Khmers are already not related to the Sinitic family (i.e. the Chinese Dialects)
the final language stratum of Modern Vietnamese derives from Austroasiatic stock, of which Khmer and Mon are related languages. the Tai elements occurs in Vietnamese mostly as a co-stratum while the Sinitic elements occurs in Vietnamese both as a substratum minority as well as a superstratum majority
the final language stratum of Modern Cantonese derives from the Sino-Tibetan stock, of which Tibetan and Burmese are related languages. the Tai and Khmer element exist in Cantonese only as a substratum minority only
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Originally posted by dare82:
Well. Just say your feelings about them. They are not of our races here. Racial Harmony Day does not include them.
do u even know the meaning of racial harmony
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what abt the Japanese? how come they use chinese characters in their language? were they from china also?
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Originally posted by gigabyte14:
do u even know the meaning of racial harmony
Racial Harmony is celebrated to commemorate the racial riots of 1964.It is for the races of Singapore: Chinese, Malays, North and South Indians, Eurasians and other Muslim minorities, such as Arabs.
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Originally posted by Meat Bao:
I dont know, but some words, actually it seems to be quite a lot, are Chinese loan words/ absorbed words.
Even their surnames are Chinese surnames, or how should I say, have Chinese equivalent.
For instance, Tranh Tan Vao (notice the 3 names system) this surname "Tranh" maybe is "Chan" in Mandarin equivalent. (this is just example). It is like this.
Meat Bao, this time you are right again
陈 Tran (without the "h") is pronounced in Vietnamese almost like Cantonese Chan. The relationship exist in Vietnamese "Tr" which is the retroflex consonant clusters which mirrors Middle Chinese å�¤æ— 舌上 relationship with Modern Hokkien which pronounces the same word as "Tan". Therefore "Tran" is in fact an evidence of the superstrate Chinese vocabulary in the evolution from "Tan" -> "Tran" -> "Chan"
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I'm surprised you dont know about Japanese.....yeah....they maybe are crossovers from Asian mainland from China and also to some extent Korea, in the past.
Japan uses Chinese characters, in fact in the past it was 100% Chinese characters before they decided to invent an alphabetic and phonetic system, to simplify the written language.
In terms of other cultures they were also heavily influenced by Chinese culture, basically I see them as Tang dynasty successors, while Korea is more like Ming dynasty successors. (also can be seen from Kimono to Tang dynasty costume, and the Korean Hanbok to Ming dynasty costume)
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Originally posted by marcteng:
what abt the Japanese? how come they use chinese characters in their language?
were they from china also?
No no no, the Chinese Characters in Japanese belongs to the superstrate which is borrowed into the Japanese Language only after the Japanese absorbed Chinese culture.
Japanese language is totally unrelated to Chinese Languages and dialects. It is an language isolate to this day, the only relative being the Ryukyuan languages only.
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juz tell him "so 了�起, go aust lah!".
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Originally posted by Meat Bao:
I'm surprised you dont know about Japanese.....yeah....they maybe are crossovers from Asian mainland from China and also to some extent Korea, in the past.
Japan uses Chinese characters, in fact in the past it was 100% Chinese characters before they decided to invent an alphabetic and phonetic system, to simplify the written language.
In terms of other cultures they were also heavily influenced by Chinese culture, basically I see them as Tang dynasty successors, while Korea is more like Ming dynasty successors. (also can be seen from Kimono to Tang dynasty costume, and the Korean Hanbok to Ming dynasty costume)
wow! 100 marks again
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Japanese and Koreans (languages) are isolates, but they borrow the writing system of Hanzi.
But surprisingly Korean language sounds similar to Mongolian and Manchurian to my untrained ears.