Sun MicroSystems Suing My SME Company?
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Hi.. Thanks guys... I will keep all of you guys updated on the progress of this case... When I meet the lawyers in abit.. I will let you know what are their opinions are as well... All of us aren't lawyers, so no choice have to get some real standing views on how to handle this issue...
Hopefully there is a good amicable settlement between my company and theirs... I heard they got bought over by oracle though... hmmm
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Oh and yes... I'm not sure but our name appearing on the 3rd result on yahoo... is quite a big thing and almost invaluable...
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On a seperate issue.. I found something that is pretty funny that had to do with SUN Microsystems...
http://www.rediff.com/money/2003/mar/19sun.htm
They were cleared in the end I think.. but well just found it entertaining to read this up.. Haha
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Hi I just consulted my lawyers and their opinion and big guesses are Sun Microsystems are up to intimidate us with a letter since we are such a small company... Same opinions that I got here as I got from them... If they want the website, they should pay... Nobody gets confused between a product and a company... So they better have a good case against us...
Apart from that I would also like to thank bananaCoke for bringing to our attention that our site is actually very valuable because in a typical search of glassfish, it comes up top 3 in Yahoo.com....
According to a recent eWeek article (4/19/2006):
"Yahoo's audience is 500 million a month. One of every two Internet users visits a Yahoo-branded site at least once a month, and Yahoo boasts 3.8 billion page views a day. Google may have sewn up the Internet search market, but it doesn't post these kinds of numbers.
The Yahoo execs also suggested, in a roundabout way, that Yahoo has apparently grabbed a lot more Internet search customers in the United States, an area Google's particularly strong in. Yahoo Chief Financial Officer Susan Decker told listeners how U.S.-based Yahoo Internet search queries grew by 15 to 20 percent year over year. All that growth has to come from somewhere."Just connect the dots...
Will keep you guys updated on their next move.. A few more days before they might choose to do something. When that comes, we'll be ready...
Thanks once again!
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You will lose this one.
Glassfish server has been around for more than a year, 2 or 3 if I remember correctly. Thing is, even though u are a singaporean company with a singaporean website, there will still be some measure of protection for Sun due to Singapore's FTA with the US. Part of the FTA was regarding intellectual property if I remember correctly.
Get a new domain name. Try something like glassfishdesigns.com.sg
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
Ignatius.shawn, remember to update us here on your fight against Sun Microsystems.
It seems to me like big fish want to eat small fish.
It is known that ah chia has no brain but still like to comment on legal matters. -
Yup... We are actually in the midst of updating our site... So there are quite a number of things that had to be taken down to be improved...
We don't mind changing the site... But to give them everything so valuable for free is the issue here.. After consulting with our lawyers, if Sun Microsystems really feel they have a strong case, let them bring it to our doors. We will go through this all the way with them...
However we do really hope we can settle this peacefully and come up with a fair settlement. That would really help both parties and mitigate legal costs as well... But then again, Sun Microsystems being a huge MNC, could do what they want since they have huge budgets for things like that.. But whatever it is, we won't be going down without a fight... or an amicable settlement/agreement....
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eh, hw cm ur portfolio is empty empty de?
for a start, u shld try smtg out like joining a t-shirt competition owat.
found one for u - http://www.sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/367572!
oso, me got many free advices for ur site.
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Haha... Hi Hello Kitty... As I said we are taking things down to upgrade the site... But good point, maybe we will design a tee in honour of you... Hahaha
What sort of advice? Legal advice?
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Originally posted by Ignatius.shawn:
Haha... Hi Hello Kitty... As I said we are taking things down to upgrade the site... But good point, maybe we will design a tee in honour of you... Hahaha
What sort of advice? Legal advice?
probably sum advice to worsen ur situation.
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
eh, hw cm ur portfolio is empty empty de?
for a start, u shld try smtg out like joining a t-shirt competition owat.
found one for u - http://www.sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/367572!
oso, me got many free advices for ur site.
hello kittywant to join my wet t-shirt competition?
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Originally posted by yiha093:
probably sum advice to worsen ur situation.
She is going to scratch you up later.
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Originally posted by Shotgun:
You will lose this one.
Glassfish server has been around for more than a year, 2 or 3 if I remember correctly. Thing is, even though u are a singaporean company with a singaporean website, there will still be some measure of protection for Sun due to Singapore's FTA with the US. Part of the FTA was regarding intellectual property if I remember correctly.
Get a new domain name. Try something like glassfishdesigns.com.sg
Actually it is closer to 4 years, since GlassFish started in 2005. However,GlassFish was not registered as a product until March this year. -
Well product or not... This will not do... They can't just budge in, register a trademark infringing on my rights and demand us to do silly things for them.. Its ridiculous!
We are really saddened by what Sun Microsystems is trying to do... Intimidate and take our domain for free..
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Hi Ignatius, I believe you should update your website more, as if Sun's find that you do not really capitalize that much use of the website, your case could be weaker...so upload more info etc onto your website.
Another thing Sun's will most probably check out on your website is the no. of people assessing your website to define your damage. If not much people have visited the website since it has started, then you really can hardly get any payments, then in that case, the strategy would be to "work" with them rather than against them, for future collaborations, etc.
And Sun's probably going around to search in the internet for any defamation sources that your company may have on them. So I advise that you take down the uploaded images of the legal letter, and be careful of your wordings/replies in the forum just in case they bite back at you, and counter sue you for damages.
Then, will your back also protected, your case should be looking great. :)
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Originally posted by Ignatius.shawn:
Well product or not... This will not do... They can't just budge in, register a trademark infringing on my rights and demand us to do silly things for them.. Its ridiculous!
We are really saddened by what Sun Microsystems is trying to do... Intimidate and hijack a domain for free..
Hmm...you may want to change "hijack" word.......very strong... -
Honestly the legal letters will stay here... I'm not going to hide the fact that there is a problem going on here...
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don't forget that u can count on our support.
the opinions of the masses can make any corporate giant back down.
just ask Microsoft and Adobe.
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thank you so much Nikar7... I really appreciate you all.. Who said Singaporeans were the least courteous people on the planet.. Today after reading all your support.. I finally feel blessed to know that we can have a big heart for each other as well... Thanks!
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Today after reading all your support.. I finally feel blessed to know that we can have a big heart for each other as well... Thanks!
We Singaporeans must join forces to deal with the common bastard.
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Originally posted by Ah Chia:
We Singaporeans must join forces to deal with the common bastard.
Somehow you manage to throw that certain person in again, in an unrelated thread.
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Somehow you manage to throw that certain person in again, in an unrelated thread.
No, if someone is a bully like Sun MicroSystems, we must unite to oppose it.
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Agreed
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Originally posted by Ignatius.shawn:
Well product or not... This will not do... They can't just budge in, register a trademark infringing on my rights and demand us to do silly things for them.. Its ridiculous!
We are really saddened by what Sun Microsystems is trying to do... Intimidate and take our domain for free..
Bcos their product started as public domain program and under GNU regulations since 2005 and your company just started in 2009. Most likely, they are suspecting that your company are riding on the fame of their product, hence they sent a cease and desist letter to your company.