How to train Singaporeans to speak good english?
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Originally posted by Hbbo:
He is not talking about the "English vs Malay vs Mandarin vs Hokkien" issue now. He is now changing subject and finding issue with the bilingual policy. It seemed that I have finally convinced him that English is indeed the right choice for our first language.I guess initially he failed to see the importance of the English language.
English is universal. It is the number one language for communication globally.
I don't know besides colonization, what else did the Brits do to make English an international language. Kudos to that
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
English is universal. It is the number one language for communication globally.
That must end also.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
That must end also.
Greek and Latin long gone and one day Mandarin would definitely be the Universal language but for the moment it is English and it is here to stay for quite a while,like it or not.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I guess initially he failed to see the importance of the English language.
English is universal. It is the number one language for communication globally.
I don't know besides colonization, what else did the Brits do to make English an international language. Kudos to that
Because it was a rojak language that became the 'Singlish' of Europe>LOL -
Originally posted by Short Ninja:
Greek and Latin long gone and one day Mandarin would definitely be the Universal language but for the moment it is English and it is here to stay for quite a while,like it or not.
I don't buy the concept of "universal" language and I am opposed to english being dominant language in Singapore.
It is due to that anglo bastard Lee Kuan Yew.
He should learn to speak our language.
We are the majority.
Not we majority go and speak his mother fucking minority colonial language.
That fucking bastard Lee Kuan Yew.
I have a score to settle with that mother fucker.
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Lee Kuan Yew.
Don't even dream on selling your mother fucking propaganda on language to me.
I know your real agenda.
Don't even mother fucking dream.
You dream also don't go and dream.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
That must end also.
It is pretty obvious that you oppose just to oppose and make so much fuss about usage of language.You have not replied to my question:
Originally posted by Fantagf:
What should we speak?? Hokkien?
Why have you no guts to answer me? Is it very difficult to answer the above question?If you have no suggestion on what language we should speak then I think you should just keep your mouth shut and stop being so irritating.
If there is no universal language, people in the world will not be understood. Tell me why is it that you are so adamant to oppose English to be the universal language?
YOU are very problematic. Think it is not so much of language spoken, i see that it is the attitude you have that is causing you all this unhappiness about languages spoken.
Since you are so full of unhappiness about language spoken, please create your own angel3070 language and let us all learn to speak that and make it universal.
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:
Because it was a rojak language that became the 'Singlish' of Europe>LOL
I don't think soIf English is rojak then we have been learning rojak in school and speaking rojak.
English is not Singlish. The Europeans may have different ways of speaking English but English is definitely not the "Singlish" of Europe.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I don't think soIf English is rojak then we have been learning rojak in school and speaking rojak.
English is not Singlish. The Europeans may have different ways of speaking English but English is definitely not the "Singlish" of Europe.
English is new language formed about 1,200 years ago mostly roots words from other European languages and is still growing with borrowed words from other countries.That is what I meant by rojak.
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:
English is new language formed about 1,200 years ago mostly roots words from other European languages and is still growing with borrowed words from other countries.That is what I meant by rojak.
Ok, now I get what you mean when you said rojak. -
It is confusing these days ' to train SINGAPOREANS to speak english' ....which 'type' of singaporeans are we talking about? The singaporeans that govt refer to are the NEW SINGAPOREANS....the old average singaporeans are dead...dead in spirit and dead in nationalism.......as their exisitence have been replaced by new singaporeans
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Ok, now I get what you mean when you said rojak.
So a rojak language for example like Singlish has neutrality which is why it is easily catched on. -
Originally posted by traver:
It is confusing these days ' to train SINGAPOREANS to speak english' ....which 'type' of singaporeans are we talking about? The singaporeans that govt refer to are the NEW SINGAPOREANS....the old average singaporeans are dead...dead in spirit and dead in nationalism.......as their exisitence have been replaced by new singaporeans
New Singaporeans are naturally learning Singlish whether they like it or not and if you dont believe me go watch You-Tube on Mr Brown and listen to the poor Bangla guy fighting with a Singaporean on phone>LOL
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:
So a rojak language for example like Singlish has neutrality which is why it is easily catched on.
Think it is acceptable for languages to borrow some words from other languages. The Japanese language borrows some words from Chinese language. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Think it is acceptable for languages to borrow some words from other languages. The Japanese language borrows some words from Chinese language.All languages does it especially if the language that they borrow from got power one but sometimes at the expence of their own language,take a look at Laos for example
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:
All languages does it especially if the language that they borrow from got power one but sometimes at the expence of their own language,take a look at Laos for example
I have no idea about Laos. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
I have no idea about Laos.
Because Thai and Laos are identical plus with the strong influence from Thailand young laotians are preferring to speak more Thai instead -
Originally posted by Short Ninja:
Because Thai and Laos are identical plus with the strong influence from Thailand young laotians are preferring to speak more Thai instead
I see. To me Thai, Laos, Viet all these are same same -
wat's the point of learning singlish that can only b used in singapore?
how many ppl out there can pounce "dare" and "there" or "three" and "tree"??
diction of most singaporean suck just as bad as Ris Low....
it funny how Ris seem so pound of her way with words when most of us are just laughing at her rather then with her.
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
wat's the point of learning singlish that can only b used in singapore?
how many ppl out there can pounce "dare" and "there" or "three" and "tree"??
diction of most singaporean suck just as bad as Ris Low....
it funny how Ris seem so pound of her way with words when most of us are just laughing at her rather then with her.
wat's the point of learning singlish that can only b used in singapore?
No point.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I see. To me Thai, Laos, Viet all these are same same
To compare Thai to Laotian is like comparing Hokkien to Teochew... like that Vietnamese is totaly Hailam>LOL -
Originally posted by Short Ninja:
To compare Thai to Laotian is like comparing Hokkien to Teochew... like that Vietnamese is totaly Hailam>LOL
I see. and some of them look like from the same country.What about Burmese?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I see. and some of them look like from the same country.What about Burmese?
The original people of South East Asia looked like the malays or you could say were the malays.When you hear people speak Thai or Vietnamese from a not so audible distance you might think they were speaking in a chinese dialect but for Burmese you could tell right away cuz it is oddly different.
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Originally posted by Short Ninja:
The original people of South East Asia looked like the malays or you could say were the malays.When you hear people speak Thai or Vietnamese from a not so audible distance you might think they were speaking in a chinese dialect but for Burmese you could tell right away cuz it is oddly different.
I can identify the dif between thai and burmese languages.Even in Philippines there is one more language besides tagalog which borrows words from Malay language.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I can identify the dif between thai and burmese languages.Even in Philippines there is one more language besides tagalog which borrows words from Malay language.
Tagalog is a Malay dialect