Specialist/advance diploma at Polytechnic
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Is it really useful to take a specialist/advance diploma from Polytechnic?
Because specialist diploma is like only a part time course which can be completed in 1 year time..
If I am the employer I will not recognise it lor just like why some employers do not recognise diplomas issued by private schools simply because they only take a few subjects and it is completed in 1 year..
Taking a specialist diploma from polytechnic is like taking a diploma/higher diploma/degree from a pte school, not really recognised..
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of course its recognised than those from private schools.
just compare the number of modules and you will see the difference markedly.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
of course its recognised than those from private schools.
just compare the number of modules and you will see the difference markedly.
Say pte school offer a diploma course for 1 year. You take 5 subjects each semester making it 10 subjects a year than you get your diploma cert.For specialist diploma cert from polytechnic, because it is part time course, you take 3 subjects per semester making it 6 subjects a year than you get your specialist diploma.
So you tell me which is more recognised?
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Originally posted by martial:
Say pte school offer a diploma course for 1 year. You take 5 subjects each semester making it 10 subjects a year than you get your diploma cert.For specialist diploma cert from polytechnic, because it is part time course, you take 3 subjects per semester making it 6 subjects a year than you get your specialist diploma.
So you tell me which is more recognised?
for me, I worry about it when I get the specialist/advanced dip first. institutions are like brand names. poly's are always better branded and recognised for their quality than private schools. perception is reality to the beholder.
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If I am not wrong, advanced/specialist diplomas from Polytechnics will allow you to undertake a Masters program in the same field in the Universities. Not sure exactly, might be worth checking out though.
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No lah, advance diploma also need to go for a degree course before advancing to master, however, depend on your grade, you may only need a shorter term in the degree course.
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Got degree in "Katong Laska"
sure can earn monie
drive Merz and BMW
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Originally posted by angel7030:
No lah, advance diploma also need to go for a degree course before advancing to master, however, depend on your grade, you may only need a shorter term in the degree course.
U're wrong. There ARE certain advanced dips that will allow u directly go to certain overseas uni and get straight into the Masters programme.
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Oversea everything also can, give money only mah. But NUS or SMU master courses do not allow that lor...
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Originally posted by dkcx:
U're wrong. There ARE certain advanced dips that will allow u directly go to certain overseas uni and get straight into the Masters programme.
Which advance diploma course?
I hope the information isn't just a rumour.
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
Got degree in "Katong Laska"
sure can earn monie
drive Merz and BMW
Lau Fu Zi char kuay Teow drives two 7 series BM, on the brother, one the sister. Both only primary 3 educated only. -
Mass communication is the current hot seat in poly and U.
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Originally posted by parn:
Which advance diploma course?I hope the information isn't just a rumour.
The SP has adv dip in the food and polymer allowing direct masters in overseas uni last time though i forgot which. Alot of reshuffling and remodelling of the courses in recent years so i am unsure about it now but during my time it was possible. Not sure about the other adv dips since i only know about the adv dip relevent to my field of study that time.
To angel7030: Many poly students will go overseas uni since they are given alot of exemptions and can graduate up to 2 years earlier for certain degree courses so not everyone feels that NUS/NTU are the world. Local unis never granted any good exemptions for local poly students so a decent number of the top poly students all rather do their degrees overseas.
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Originally posted by dkcx:
The SP has adv dip in the food and polymer allowing direct masters in overseas uni last time though i forgot which. Alot of reshuffling and remodelling of the courses in recent years so i am unsure about it now but during my time it was possible. Not sure about the other adv dips since i only know about the adv dip relevent to my field of study that time.
To angel7030: Many poly students will go overseas uni since they are given alot of exemptions and can graduate up to 2 years earlier for certain degree courses so not everyone feels that NUS/NTU are the world. Local unis never granted any good exemptions for local poly students so a decent number of the top poly students all rather do their degrees overseas.
But still costly mah, local parents can use CPF to paid mah, and subsidize alots thru education grant and if you are good, you can get scholarship too. There are many foreign universities opening up here so that local dun have to travel overseas.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
But still costly mah, local parents can use CPF to paid mah, and subsidize alots thru education grant and if you are good, you can get scholarship too. There are many foreign universities opening up here so that local dun have to travel overseas.
To some people, 2 yrs off their education gives them an earlier chance to enter the working world and start earning. Considering 2 yrs of salary and the bonus, pay increment u will get in 2 yrs. Some people feel its more worthwhile compared to wasting extra years in a local uni.
It should be well known that taking a degree at the university itself and taking a degree from an overseas uni that offers their degree locally in a private school has very different value. A degree taken in private schools here are less valuable with relatively the same fees so its best to just take it at the actual university.
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Originally posted by dkcx:
The SP has adv dip in the food and polymer allowing direct masters in overseas uni last time though i forgot which. Alot of reshuffling and remodelling of the courses in recent years so i am unsure about it now but during my time it was possible. Not sure about the other adv dips since i only know about the adv dip relevent to my field of study that time.
To angel7030: Many poly students will go overseas uni since they are given alot of exemptions and can graduate up to 2 years earlier for certain degree courses so not everyone feels that NUS/NTU are the world. Local unis never granted any good exemptions for local poly students so a decent number of the top poly students all rather do their degrees overseas.
I heard about it last time you can get direct masters in University of Wales or some other Universities in UK.But if it's a scam or not, nobody really knows. Not surprising since you can go direct to University with only your O'levels.
And I don't think employers here in Singapore are confident enough to hire employees with Master degree without their Bachelor degree.
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Originally posted by dkcx:
To some people, 2 yrs off their education gives them an earlier chance to enter the working world and start earning. Considering 2 yrs of salary and the bonus, pay increment u will get in 2 yrs. Some people feel its more worthwhile compared to wasting extra years in a local uni.
It should be well known that taking a degree at the university itself and taking a degree from an overseas uni that offers their degree locally in a private school has very different value. A degree taken in private schools here are less valuable with relatively the same fees so its best to just take it at the actual university.
I am not saying it as different value, there are many students from overseas coming here to enrol in our U, i think a degree is just an education and discipline attained, and the most important is when you go and apply it into your working, some top U grad are just line managers, and some diploma holders are already GM. In public sector, NUS and NTU is priorty, as for private sector, they dun mind overseas U grad.As LHL said, "we bring the universities to your doorstep" so that you save all your cost and still get degree, because govt knows that most of them who went overseas, tends to work and stay overseas, ending in talent drained
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Originally posted by angel7030:
I am not saying it as different value, there are many students from overseas coming here to enrol in our U, i think a degree is just an education and discipline attained, and the most important is when you go and apply it into your working, some top U grad are just line managers, and some diploma holders are already GM. In public sector, NUS and NTU is priorty, as for private sector, they dun mind overseas U grad.As LHL said, "we bring the universities to your doorstep" so that you save all your cost and still get degree, because govt knows that most of them who went overseas, tends to work and stay overseas, ending in talent drained
U do notice that our top students are mostly also going overseas to UK, US, Aust etc while those coming to sg are mostly from Asian countries so theres still a difference.
Uni degree is just an entry ticket to the workforce but to alot of people, the quality of that entry ticket is important.
A overseas degree done locally has lower value because u are not taught by the same staff in the overseas uni even though u do their exams and get their certs. A uni ranking is more base on their amount of research output etc etc and the profs producing such results are not the 1 teaching u so u are in a way not getting the full value from that uni.
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Originally posted by parn:
I heard about it last time you can get direct masters in University of Wales or some other Universities in UK.But if it's a scam or not, nobody really knows. Not surprising since you can go direct to University with only your O'levels.
And I don't think employers here in Singapore are confident enough to hire employees with Master degree without their Bachelor degree.
Considering the number of years the polys have already been offering such a thing, i believe there are still companies willing to hire such students since our polys all have good reputation in local companies and any tieups they have with foreign universities should receive a certain level of creditability.
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Originally posted by martial:
Is it really useful to take a specialist/advance diploma from Polytechnic?
Because specialist diploma is like only a part time course which can be completed in 1 year time..
If I am the employer I will not recognise it lor just like why some employers do not recognise diplomas issued by private schools simply because they only take a few subjects and it is completed in 1 year..
Taking a specialist diploma from polytechnic is like taking a diploma/higher diploma/degree from a pte school, not really recognised..
yes.
Since you are already a polygrad and working, taking an advanced diploma will certainly add on to your career path (+ a few hundred dollars more).
But it must be something of relevance to your current work and discipline or for your future work.
And ... taking this kind of advanced course is supposed to enhance your work performance. it is different from getting a diploma to be qualify for an interview.
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Lokey is right
Poly's spec and adv dips are for ppl who already have the equivalent of local uni or full time poly dip. This explains the shorter duration.You are not required to undergo certain modules because u are supposed to have acquired these knowledge. Hence the shorter period.
Suppose u are a comp sc graduate n u wish to acquire specialised knowldege in field such as network and IT security.
Suppose u are a chemical engring grad and u are working a pharmaceutical company n u wish to acquire pharmaceutical knowldege.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
Lokey is right
Poly's spec and adv dips are for ppl who already have the equivalent of local uni or full time poly dip. This explains the shorter duration.You are not required to undergo certain modules because u are supposed to have acquired these knowledge. Hence the shorter period.
Suppose u are a comp sc graduate n u wish to acquire specialised knowldege in field such as network and IT security.
Suppose u are a chemical engring grad and u are working a pharmaceutical company n u wish to acquire pharmaceutical knowldege.
Say you are a diploma in business graduate from the poly. You want to have a career change to work into the retail industry. You go and take a specialist diploma in retail from the poly and after graduate you go to apply for a retail supervisor/management trainee job.
I think the chances of you getting employed is low because most employers do not recognise your specialist diploma as its only a 1 year part time course
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Originally posted by martial:
Say you are a diploma in business graduate from the poly. You want to have a career change to work into the retail industry. You go and take a specialist diploma in retail from the poly and after graduate you go to apply for a retail supervisor/management trainee job.
I think the chances of you getting employed is low because most employers do not recognise your specialist diploma as its only a 1 year part time course
You are also right. Let me put it from two perpectives.
1) the poly would want to make it as much viable as possible for them to run the programmes. So they will not do a cost/benefit for u. The onset is for u to ensure that u enrol in something that benefit and not burden u later.2) benefit is a subjective matter here. On the flip side of what u said above.
Say u are a dip in business grad from the poly. You are already in a career in the retail industry. You go n take a spec dip in retail from the poly and after graduate wouldn't it gives u a good advantage in applying for a retail supervisor/management job?
cheers
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Originally posted by 4sg:
You are also right. Let me put it from two perpectives.
1) the poly would want to make it as much viable as possible for them to run the programmes. So they will not do a cost/benefit for u. The onset is for u to ensure that u enrol in something that benefit and not burden u later.2) benefit is a subjective matter here. On the flip side of what u said above.
Say u are a dip in business grad from the poly. You are already in a career in the retail industry. You go n take a spec dip in retail from the poly and after graduate wouldn't it gives u a good advantage in applying for a retail supervisor/management job?
cheers
But the thing is I am not in the retail industry currently. The job that I am doing now is related to the diploma that I took when I was in poly.I want to have a career change to the retail industry so I am thinking of taking a specialist diploma in retail. But I think even after I graduate, the chances of me finding a retail supervisor job is low as its only a 1 year part time course and I don't ahve the retail experience.
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martial
I can't give u further help as the only thing I can do is to tell u about the spec n adv dip. Maybe try finding job in retail first?
cheers