I don't understand this "rise of China"
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Us gahmen borrow from China gahmen
China rich cos of tourism, export, etc
They are super power cos they had invest heavily in innovation to invent more advance technology
their people are also hungry for education, etc cos hardships in the rural village is making them to advance
so as to have a better life
one word i die die also must succeed in life or else i am finished
it is mentality that motivate them to just do it
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but china has no inventors or people who create new gizmos like the americans.
for the above reasons................china will be like japan or korea in future.
somehow its their attitude n culture mix that stiffles progress in that werld leadership in $$$ n technology.
u dun expect thailand to be a great powerful country though they sell rice n stuff everone is producing werldwide do u???its for that same reason that most countries like china etc would still lag behind usa.
ITS THE STUFF THEY CREATE THATS VALUABLE THAT COUNTS.
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China has used weather changing technology in the Olympics
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in 50 years time, it will be chinese aircraft carriers and warships patrolling the region, not the US. Anyway, screw the americans. Had enough of this pseudo white man mentality.
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China will strengthen its military and be active in this region in future. But China will not be able to overtake US as the sole superpower. Actually, the only country that is worried of China's rise militarily is US. US will do all it can to ensure that China do not ovetake them.
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first off, don't be misled by this per capita thing, it's just mere averages...given the population, naturally the number becomes smaller....sg has a high income per capita, but that kind of number is only applicable to some at the top of the food chain....
the rise of china is about politics, why not the arabs, cos' they are american's foot stool while china is not...china can do very much what the west can do now while the arabs continue to struggle with how many more rules they can impose on women....
if you can't speak mandarin, then so be it......
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when a baby tasted sweet, he/she will cry for it. When China first tasted freedom capitialism, it is as tho they are just born.
For years the american had wanted the Chinese to open it market to the world in a democratic economic way. Now that the Chinese is open, the American are worrying.
Chinese invented firepower, printing, sailing, political system, etc etc long before the west was even born...
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china china
one thing no country that can
every beat them is
they can talk so loudly in public
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they invented those stuff....but also never progressed nfrom there for centuries...end of story.
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chinese invented sailing and political systems? LOL
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truth is China is just a factory for the West....................the West started their economic miracle..............they can just as easily shift to India..............when that happens...........the Chinese Communist Party will fall for sure...........
what's worse, if the USD calue should plunge or USA default..................all of China's trillions will disappear overnight..................
it's like the hungry ghosts.............if they had been starving all the time, they don't know the joys of being full.........but once they've been full before.................you think they'll starve quietly again...............???
they'll go berserk and run amok.............
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
in 50 years time, it will be chinese aircraft carriers and warships patrolling the region, not the US. Anyway, screw the americans. Had enough of this pseudo white man mentality.
if the Chinese ever replace the US as big boss....................you better live on Mars..........life on Earth will be intolerable................
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Originally posted by eagle:
China has used weather changing technology in the Olympics
aiyah, the West can do that decades ago mah...................PAP also does that for our National Day Parade mah for so long............
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so China gahmen and the rich China people all rushing to buy asset like high class apartment in us, buy gold (so gold prices went up), buy oil from some Africa countries, etc
when US dollar depreciate in value, China stock/share price sure affected
China gahmen now also tried to focus on their own domestics markets, tried to build more infrastructure, etc
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
truth is China is just a factory for the West....................the West started their economic miracle..............they can just as easily shift to India..............when that happens...........the Chinese Communist Party will fall for sure...........
what's worse, if the USD calue should plunge or USA default..................all of China's trillions will disappear overnight..................
it's like the hungry ghosts.............if they had been starving all the time, they don't know the joys of being full.........but once they've been full before.................you think they'll starve quietly again...............???
they'll go berserk and run amok.............
That's not the strength of the Indian economy.
The hidden power of Asian giants in India and China lies in their difference and synergies. You are mixing them up.
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another truth is if US and Europe - their combined economies go downhill................China also will go down..............China is just hanging onto their coattails all becoz of their cheap cheap cheap labour and produce
if the Angmohs go broke, who's gonna buy stuff from China ? all the factories will close and China goes into depression....................don't say China, Japan also mati ah...............
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Originally posted by eagle:
That's not the strength of the Indian economy.
The hidden power of Asian giants in India and China lies in their difference and synergies. You are mixing them up.
yeah, the Ah Nehs may not be the factory now becoz most the West's factories are in China..............before the Angmohs go China.......they're also not factory powerhouse..............
maybe in decades to come (assumingthe Great Depression 2 didn't come) China will be too expensive and the West will simply go to India, Bangladesh, etc etc ...............
the money come from the West to begin with.................and the products from the factories also go to the West......................so who's the boss ???
if the Japs can't supplant the West since they also dependent on the West to buy their stuff...............the Chinese can't.............
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
yeah, the Ah Nehs may not be the factory now becoz most the West's factories are in China..............before the Angmohs go China.......they're also not factory powerhouse..............
maybe in decades to come (assumingthe Great Depression 2 didn't come) China will be too expensive and the West will simply go to India, Bangladesh, etc etc ...............
the money come from the West to begin with.................and the products from the factories also go to the West......................so who's the boss ???
if the Japs can't supplant the West since they also dependent on the West to buy their stuff...............the Chinese can't.............
Your facts are incomplete.
Then again, I can't be bothered.
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Originally posted by dangerboi:
naive and most probably TS
I'll give you a better explanation when I have the time.
Take a look at the latest auto show in china, the number of world's fastest ferrari and the latest rolls-royce that were bought by the chinese in China.
Yes, a handful are rich. Corrupt officials, "guanxi" etc.
But 90% of Chinese are dirt ppor.
Take a look at the top 5 banks in the world (with the most amount of wealth)
Yes, and none are Chinese
http://www.bankersalmanac.com/addcon/infobank/bank-rankings.aspx
Has US president obama been visiting China lately?
He has been visiting Singapore as well for the APEC. Your point is? I hope you don't mean if he visits China often it is a nice country to live in..
Compare Hong Kong and Singapore. The rent of a compable condo would cost around USD 4000+ a month in Singapore but it cost more than USD 10 000 in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is part of China.Compare the banking industry in Hong Kong and Singapore.
Hong Kong is not a full part of China. It is under the Basic law and is normally treated as seperate from China. The Chinese cannot live in HK, if they could, HK would collapse. Hong Kongers have their own HK passport. HK is basically a seperate country from China for most purposes.
In fact, many hongkongers are migrating as we speak, they are afraid of Beijing rule. Remember in 97 how many HKers ran abroad due to takeover of HK? Every July, watch their street protest against Beijing's autocracy. They take to the streets in the hundreds of thousands. The HKers themsevles hate Beijing to be honest.
Hong kong is famous of its high property prices. Property tax is a major source of revenue for the HK govt, which is how they keep their personal income tax so low and still dish out cheap healthcare.
Banking wise, Singapore and HK are the same.
Which are the few countries that have the most Rolls Royce in the world? Which city has the most Rolls -Royce in the world?
Who cares about rolls royce of the few rich and famous when there are billions of Chinese farmers living in slums? Average income in China is only around 3k sgd / year.
China's domestic car companies haven't even figured out how to manufacture a auto transmission car i think. or maybe 1 company did recently. lol.
USA owes China money.
Do you read Forbes or Times?
It is called gilts or bonds. Not exactly "owe money". The USA owes Japan and the Arabs much more money than they "owe" China. China also "owes" world bank money etc. You don;t understand forex.
During the financial crisis China doled out billions in contracts in Great Britain and France. Last year it surpassed the U.S. to become the largest trading partner of both Japan and Brazil. It conducts more than $100 billion a year in trade with both the Middle East and Africa. In Africa it is laying down highways and other infrastructure projects. Already 750,000 Chinese workers have moved there.
China surpassed the U.S. as the world's largest car market last year. Have you read about China's Volvo deal?
The main reason you see that China is still being poor is due to the unequal distribution of income.
Yeah so what? There are rich people, yes. China has 1/4 of the world's population. But the fact is the average wage in China is still african like, only around 3k sgd / year and it will remain so for decades to come.
The average Chinese is still dirt poor, making 3k sgd a year. Air is polluted, criminal justice system is failing, medical healthcare is terrible. Government will silence its critics. Thousands of riots take place yearly. Political system is unstable. Widespread corruption. Food vendors reuse oil. Poisonous milk and toys. Buildings only last 30 years in China (http://www.chinahourly.com/china/1363/). Wages are terribly low, living conditions are horrible. Corruption is rife, from top to bottom. Education systems are not good. Internet is blocked, facebook, youtube, bbc, one million other websites cannot be accessed. You live under a ruthless autocratic communist party.
I reckon TS is still a young kid who doesn't read up alot.
I am still waiting for you to continue talking out of your ass
I'm not supportive of this China superpower but since I've done a great deal of research on this I could give you plenty of supporting references.
China offers a large talent pool of skilled workers who can handle both basic jobs such as processing insurance claims and mortgage loans, to more technically advanced information technology jobs.
Just as it is possible China will "rise further", it is also similarly possible China will "fall further". Another tian an men, great leap forward or cultural revolution is very possible.
Have you heard of the natural order? China: 1st
India 2nd
USA 3rd
Have you been to USA, UK or France? Take a look at the educated prc population there.
No thanks I don't want to take a look. Your natural order exists only in your own mind.
Countries by total GDP:
1 
United States14,256,275 2 
Japan5,068,059 3 
People's Republic of China4,908,9822 4 
Germany3,352,742 5 
France2,675,951 6 
United Kingdom2,183,607 7 
Italy2,118,264 8 
Brazil1,574,039 9 
Spain1,464,040 10 
Canada1,336,427 11 
India1,235,975 12 
Russia1,229,227 13 
Australia997,201 14 
Mexico874,903 Countries by GDP per capita:
Rank 
Country US$ 1 
Luxembourg104,512 2 
Norway79,085 3 
Qatar68,872 4 
Switzerland67,560 5 
Denmark56,115 6 
Ireland51,356 7 
Netherlands48,223 8 
United Arab Emirates46,857 9 United States46,381 95 
Tunisia3,852 96 
Jordan3,829 97 
Albania3,825 98 China, People's Republic of3,678 99 
El Salvador3,623 100 
Fiji3,464 101 
Cape Verde3,445 102 
Turkmenistan3,242 Have you heard of a contestant in Beijing Olympics 2008 who gave up his uk citizenship so as to represent China in the Olympics?
Ha ha, have you heard of the tens of millions of Chinese queueing up at the foreign embassies in China desperate to take up Singapore/UK/CAN/EU citizenship?
You should at least have heard about the thousands working in Singapore as construction workers, coffee shop waitresses and even prostitutes in the red light district, haven;;t you?
that's all for now
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Just as it is possible China will "rise further", it is also similarly possible China will "fall further". Another tian an men, great leap forward or cultural revolution is very possible.
Singapore itself could possibly rise further or fall further as well. So would Europe. So would Japan. So would USA. So would any other country in the world!
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Originally posted by eagle:
Singapore itself could possibly rise further or fall further as well. So would Europe. So would Japan. So would USA. So would any other country in the world!
Yes but the possibility of Singapore/Japan/European countries failing is a lot slimmer than China because they have stability and a political system that works, wealth, high standard of living etc.China ranks 53 on the failed state index, under "warning" category.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index
I will reply to your posts when you have something reasonable to say. I guess that probably means I won't be replying to your posts.
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Originally posted by Ranson:
Yes but the possibility of Singapore/Japan/European countries failing is a lot slimmer than China because they have stability and a political system that works, wealth, high standard of living etc.China ranks 53 on the failed state index, under "warning" category.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index
I will reply to your posts when you have something reasonable to say. I guess that probably means I won't be replying to your posts.
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the reason why the West picked China over India is becoz of the communist govt................easier to do things when the people are oppressed.............
imagine if USD were to suddenly plunge .................
China's reserves will drop a lot.............
the US govt bonds they're holding will be worth a lot less.............
China goods now more expensive....................less exports........
US hi-end goods cheaper......more Chinese buy..........
China is a paper dragon............the illusion is so awesome but it can easily crash...........