True Love is built on a foundation of money
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Originally posted by ItchyArmpit:
haha so extreme sia all ur post..
wonder when i will have my first relationship... true love.. haha
wonder if the black i see is ur white? the blue i see is the red u see? it is just that someone point the black kettle and said it is black, even tho u see it as my white, but u name it black....
well true love can have different definition for anyone too.... try not to give too much examples, if not others will try to give opposite examples, afterall it is example, most likely exceptions....
love is beautiful because everyone has a different definition of love and are looking for the matching ones.... lets not spoil the beauty of it by defining love?
afterall, in this society, to have love that is socially accepted is already narrowing our scope on love...
how fun..
If you claimed your first relationship was True Love, then can you tell us what happened to your True Love now?I'm sure if you had alot of money during your first relationship, it could already be your last relationship by now.
Why do you think the beauty of True Love is tarnished with the introduction of MONEY?
That's where the problem lies, too much textbook answers and disneyland cartoons had brainwashed many of you.
True Love will become eternal with the money.
Love cannot survive alone with bread and water. There is alot of truth in this sentence.
I don't mind if none of you are humble enough to admit in agreement with what I have posted.
But as long as your heart agrees with me, I'm good.
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Why do you insist on giving lessons on how money is important. I am sure everyone knows how important money is. Important, but exactly how important seperates people. We all know love cannot survive alone with bread and water, but your topic was true love on a foundation of money.
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TTFU is right
topic is true love is bulit on a foundation of money
if ur aim of this topic is to give lessons on how important money is, everyone knows
there is no need to say so much
i suppose your aim is to point out the fact the person giving or putting up his or her efforts to love that person really meant it..........
and not just for their own selfish desires
if i am wrong, correct me...thks, parnie
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i think the topic of true love eludes a hidden influence at the very beginning from the real source of motive (i.e. money) that puts true to "true" from this perspective... which is trying to say there is a hidden scheme of things....
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sometimes it maybe difficult even for one to decipher whether its true or being influenced for the truth...
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Originally posted by TTFU:
Why do you insist on giving lessons on how money is important. I am sure everyone knows how important money is. Important, but exactly how important seperates people. We all know love cannot survive alone with bread and water, but your topic was true love on a foundation of money.
Why do you think people will be separated if they realised money is important to find True Love for themselves?The problem lies with people with the incorrect thinking that True Love is free and True Love is only exclusive to one person or an individual. And once you loses that one person or individual whom you think you are having True Love with, you also loses that opportunity to have anymore True Love in the future. That is wrong if people are still holding onto ideal/textbook/model thoughts like that.
Keep holding onto your outdated thoughts about True Love, and don't push the blame onto the society if you are the person who cannot keep up with the society with your outdated values of True Love.
And yes, True Love is really built on a foundation of money whether you like it or not.
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I'm actually kind of sad that you keep insisting that true love is based on money.
Money can buy you virtually anything, even health if it means you can afford to go for more regularly check-ups, better medical treatment and therefore be less likely to die. But there're a few things that money can't buy, one of which is true love.
Did you encounter people who risk their lifes donating vital organs to their love ones?
Did you see real life stories when one decide to stick to his/her HIV partner despite that he/her is uninfected?
Do you think they do it for money? Why should they do it for money if they're going to die anyway?
And the list goes on.
What is certain is that everyone is definitely hoping for true love, that is one of the reasons why love stories/movies always gain popularity among the audience, cause people want to watch the thing that they're craving for in real life, even though they might not have it at that point of time, they dream of it, they hope they'll be the lucky one who meet their true love. And you parnie is definitely one of them. Even though you keep insisting otherwise. You are also hoping that you can met someone who doesnt want your body or watever else, but for who you really are.
Perhaps you are not aware of this consciously, but the existence of this tread, with your extreme view, will naturally invite some guys like us who will tell you that no! true love is not based on money, and will counter your extreme thoughts and maybe you'll derive some pleasure out of it. Perhaps you want people to tell you that true love is not based on money?
Just like some lady who keep telling people she's ugly, all the while hoping ppl will tell her: "no la, where got, still look pretty mah! don't think this way la! see, that guy is looking at you now!" etc
Hmm lastly, just a guess, i can be wrong, but are you age 28-32?
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Originally posted by Mr Milo:
TTFU is right
topic is true love is bulit on a foundation of money
if ur aim of this topic is to give lessons on how important money is, everyone knows
there is no need to say so much
i suppose your aim is to point out the fact the person giving or putting up his or her efforts to love that person really meant it..........
and not just for their own selfish desires
if i am wrong, correct me...thks, parnie
I don't need to give lessons on how important money is, do you think I will waste my time and tell you things that you already know?Check with the common people, these people are probably the ones who does things like that often throughout your lives and boast too much over it. I don't waste my limited life and time to do stupid things like that.
Aren't people complaining too much about not able to find love and questioning if they have found or how to identify true love?
The Love that can survived till the end is True Love. The relationship that can outlast your limited time on Earth is True Love. The feelings that you had for each other that you can successfully pass it down to your future generations as an evidence of your love is True Love. The moment when you find that distance is no longer an issue between both of you, is True Love.
It's funny that you are quick to support TTFU, do you really read what I wrote before you make your comments?
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Originally posted by parn:
Why do you think people will be separated if they realised money is important to find True Love for themselves?The problem lies with people with the incorrect thinking that True Love is free and True Love is only exclusive to one person or an individual. And once you loses that one person or individual whom you think you are having True Love with, you also loses that opportunity to have anymore True Love in the future. That is wrong if people are still holding onto ideal/textbook/model thoughts like that.
Keep holding onto your outdated thoughts about True Love, and don't push the blame onto the society if you are the person who cannot keep up with the society with your outdated values of True Love.
And yes, True Love is really built on a foundation of money whether you like it or not.
Why people get separated ? Do i really need to explain out the over 9000 reasons ?
You keep on saying true love, i really need to understand your view on true love, so whats the difference between true love and love. Does it mean you lose boyfriend A, boyfriend B will not be your true love anymore ? You mean you condemn a poor couple not having true love just because they have no/little money ?
Okay, so you just said i was outdated. Then you fail to acknowledge that society has a impact on money. So whats the latest fashion ?
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Originally posted by dreamlander:
I'm actually kind of sad that you keep insisting that true love is based on money.
Money can buy you virtually anything, even health if it means you can afford to go for more regularly check-ups, better medical treatment and therefore be less likely to die. But there're a few things that money can't buy, one of which is true love.
Did you encounter people who risk their lifes donating vital organs to their love ones?
Did you see real life stories when one decide to stick to his/her HIV partner despite that he/her is uninfected?
Do you think they do it for money? Why should they do it for money if they're going to die anyway?
And the list goes on.
What is certain is that everyone is definitely hoping for true love, that is one of the reasons why love stories/movies always gain popularity among the audience, cause people want to watch the thing that they're craving for in real life, even though they might not have it at that point of time, they dream of it, they hope they'll be the lucky one who meet their true love. And you parnie is definitely one of them. Even though you keep insisting otherwise. You are also hoping that you can met someone who doesnt want your body or watever else, but for who you really are.
Perhaps you are not aware of this consciously, but the existence of this tread, with your extreme view, will naturally invite some guys like us who will tell you that no! true love is not based on money, and will counter your extreme thoughts and maybe you'll derive some pleasure out of it. Perhaps you want people to tell you that true love is not based on money?
Just like some lady who keep telling people she's ugly, all the while hoping ppl will tell her: "no la, where got, still look pretty mah! don't think this way la! see, that guy is looking at you now!" etc
Hmm lastly, just a guess, i can be wrong, but are you age 28-32?
I'm not that old age to be between 28-32!!! Don't be rude and put me in that age group.The True Love examples which you have mentioned are indeed Actions of True Love after they have found their True Love. Do take note of the before and after finding True Love. You are talking after the after part, which I agreed.
My topic is for the part before you find True Love.
I don't need to repeat myself and tell you that you are ready to provide and receive True Love if you have a strong foundation of money.
Love itself is an invisible source of power, and only when you are in a relationship, then you will be able to identify if you are able and capable to provide love till the end.
True Love is for people who are in a relationship to discover for themselves.
And when money becomes the solution of the relationship and not the ongoing problem in the relationship, both parties in the relationship will be able to focus on loving each other and able to see themselves holding each other's wrinkled hands till the end of their lives.
Why do you feel sad? You should be happy knowing that you are earning money not only for the sake of surviving, but also for the sake of your future love.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
Why people get separated ? Do i really need to explain out the over 9000 reasons ?
You keep on saying true love, i really need to understand your view on true love, so whats the difference between true love and love. Does it mean you lose boyfriend A, boyfriend B will not be your true love anymore ? You mean you condemn a poor couple not having true love just because they have no/little money ?
Okay, so you just said i was outdated. Then you fail to acknowledge that society has a impact on money. So whats the latest fashion ?
The answers that you seeked can be found in my post to Milo.And do you mean that money has an impact on our society and not the other way around?
Then do you agree that money has an impact of people's relationship?
Then do you agree that money has an impact on the love in people's relationship?
Then do you agree that money has an impact on the duration of people's relationship?
Then do you agree that money is neccessary to obtain True Love in a relationship?
Do you need me to encourage you in order to convince you? And you haven't answer the question regarding the separation.
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So i saw this lines in your post, I don't need to repeat myself and tell you that you are ready to provide and receive True Love if you have a strong foundation of money.
Why do you feel sad? You should be happy knowing that you are earning money not only for the sake of surviving, but also for the sake of your future love.
Yes having money does reduces the differences and also eliminates the quarrels due to money. But also note, how much money is enough money ? You cannot condemn a poor couple of not having true love just because they have little/no money.
Separation problems ? character problems ? Differences in thinking ? lots of reasons, even differences in family views, religion differences also.
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Love and Marriage are totally different things though they are linked. For marriage, you look at your 'future' spouse in the eyes
his/her family background, his/her group of friends, his/her future prospects. etc
If one marries another with the same family background, they'd most probably live happily ever after if they don't insist on wanting more...
On the other hand, if one marries someone of a better/'the opposite of better' family background, problems will surface sooner or later.
Love is a game, hate the game not the players
Once you're married, you're out of the game.
Everything boils down to the fact that one should accept the fact that some people are just better than others in every aspect of life. Sometimes no matter how hard one tries, he/she would just go back to square one.
Money will always be a problem.
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oh...i see the light....om ni tuo fo....shan zai shan zai
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Originally posted by TTFU:
So i saw this lines in your post, I don't need to repeat myself and tell you that you are ready to provide and receive True Love if you have a strong foundation of money.
Why do you feel sad? You should be happy knowing that you are earning money not only for the sake of surviving, but also for the sake of your future love.
Yes having money does reduces the differences and also eliminates the quarrels due to money. But also note, how much money is enough money ? You cannot condemn a poor couple of not having true love just because they have little/no money.
Separation problems ? character problems ? Differences in thinking ? lots of reasons, even differences in family views, religion differences also.
Huh...your poor couple is referring to young couple or those era before I was born?And who is condemning couples who are poor? Was it my words or was it your own assumptions? Don't be afraid to own up if your own imaginations are hurting you right now ok?
I'm talking about this era and singles before they found love. And having alot of money will help them to find True Love. (This part you can use your imaginations positively)
Do I need to tell you that you can do more wonderful things together with your loved ones when you have alot of money and financial security?
Do I need to tell you which guy will have more confidence in their relationship?
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Originally posted by parn:
Why do you feel sad? You should be happy knowing that you are earning money not only for the sake of surviving, but also for the sake of your future love.
I feel sad for you, not for myself.
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Haiz, no money, no honey...
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Originally posted by parn:
Huh...your poor couple is referring to young couple or those era before I was born?And who is condemning couples who are poor? Was it my words or was it your own assumptions? Don't be afraid to own up if your own imaginations are hurting you right now ok?
I'm talking about this era and singles before they found love. And having alot of money will help them to find True Love. (This part you can use your imaginations positively)
Do I need to tell you that you can do more wonderful things together with your loved ones when you have alot of money and financial security?
Do I need to tell you which guy will have more confidence in their relationship?
I was refering to married couples that are poor/little/no money. Dont tell me you are surrounded by rich people all your lifes. It was a simple question, do you think poor couples have true love, do you think their love is true, just that,
Don't be afraid to own up if your own imaginations are hurting you right now ok?
Your line sounded ironic, i wonder whose the one really hurted
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Originally posted by TTFU:
I was refering to married couples that are poor/little/no money. Dont tell me you are surrounded by rich people all your lifes. It was a simple question, do you think poor couples have true love, do you think their love is true, just that,
Don't be afraid to own up if your own imaginations are hurting you right now ok?
Your line sounded ironic, i wonder whose the one really hurted
It's funny why you want me to answer this question, shouldn't you be asking those couples instead?Why not you ask me how many times can afford to buy condoms and how many times they don't?
Do you think all the married couples that are poor/little/no money have true love?
This topic isn't meant for people who are married or already in a relationship.
Did you not read in my reply that this topic is meant for singles and people in our current era who have yet to find their true love.
How poor is the poor/little/no money you were referrring to anyway? Care to share their situation in here?
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Originally posted by parn:
It's funny why you want me to answer this question, shouldn't you be asking those couples instead?Why not you ask me how many times can afford to buy condoms and how many times they don't?
Do you think all the married couples that are poor/little/no money have true love?
This topic isn't meant for people who are married or already in a relationship.
Did you not read in my reply that this topic is meant for singles and people in our current era who have yet to find their true love.
How poor is the poor/little/no money you were referrring to anyway? Care to share their situation in here?
I want you to answer of course i wanted to know your stand. Its funnier than you directed back to me. Maybe you are expecting questions like whats your panties colour ? How many times you pee in a day ? or maybe how many grains of rice you take in a day.
What i meant is, being poor or rich depends on people's definitions. Earning 2k may be considered rich for some, enough for some, poor for some. Thats my point. Of course poor people have true love also (this era).
Then again you can continue to troll or flame just to get the advantage. I dont mind. I doubt theres anyone else here in sg forums that has the interest to continue this debate with you.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
I want you to answer of course i wanted to know your stand. Its funnier than you directed back to me. Maybe you are expecting questions like whats your panties colour ? How many times you pee in a day ? or maybe how many grains of rice you take in a day.
What i meant is, being poor or rich depends on people's definitions. Earning 2k may be considered rich for some, enough for some, poor for some. Thats my point. Of course poor people have true love also (this era).
Then again you can continue to troll or flame just to get the advantage. I dont mind. I doubt theres anyone else here in sg forums that has the interest to continue this debate with you.
If you don't even bother to read what I have posted, then how could you possibly know my stance in this topic, then how can you be so confident that I'm trolling/flaming in my own topic?Are majority of the poor couple/people blessed with true love? I can accept if you tell me the majority of the poor couple/people that you have come across and known personally, were blessed with true love.
It's not a debate afterall, it's a clear fact of sharing the truth at the risks of destroying many individual dreams about true love and also neccessary to protect myself from the consequences of what I have posted.
The simple fact is, if you do not wish to look from my perspective, then of course I won't allow myself to fall into the trap created from your perspective.
Afterall, it's not fair for you to force me into your perspective when you do not wish to look from my perspective.
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Originally posted by parn:
If you don't even bother to read what I have posted, then how could you possibly know my stance in this topic, then how can you be so confident that I'm trolling/flaming in my own topic?Are majority of the poor couple/people blessed with true love? I can accept if you tell me the majority of the poor couple/people that you have come across and known personally, were blessed with true love.
It's not a debate afterall, it's a clear fact of sharing the truth at the risks of destroying many individual dreams about true love and also neccessary to protect myself from the consequences of what I have posted.
The simple fact is, if you do not wish to look from my perspective, then of course I won't allow myself to fall into the trap created from your perspective.
Afterall, it's not fair for you to force me into your perspective when you do not wish to look from my perspective.
I did read your post btw, in fact everyone did. I dint start posting at page 4, in fact i started at page 1. It was only a simple question to the whole of your arguments.
And also it brings to my previous post of importance of money. Sure money is important, but how important seperates people. People can be contented with 2k salary, while some no. Sure 3k beats 2k, but you wont die even you have 2k. Living within your means and be contented is the key.I have no idea the people/couples that you come across are rich or poor. But since you asked about my view, i will say yes i have come across people ''poor'' but living in content. Of course the opposite exist as well.
Like i said, it was a debate, but if you insist your theory being the truth, thats also fine.
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Everybody need money to survive.