Punishment for murder too lenient
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While most cases of murder will get the death sentence, there are however a substantial number of cases where the murderer is diagonised to have mental problems and they are given very light sentences such as between 5 to 10 years jail only.
While in rape cases, people are given around 10 to 20 years jail and in murder cases where a innocent life is lost and the person gets only 5 to 10 years jail just because he/she has a mental problem.
And we are talking about murder not manslaughter where the person accidentally kill someone or out of self defence kill someone. The person purposely kill someone and only get 5 to 10 years jail while a rapist can get 10 to 20 years jail
Do you think this is fair?
I think this is not fair at all.
Unless the person accidentally kill someone or kill the person out of self defence than we can give the person a short jail sentence.
Even for cases such as husband or wife kill the other spouse because he/she find out the other person having a affair should also be given the death sentence
All murders whether got mental problem anot and irregardless of the motives should be given the death sentence.
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Nothing in life is fair. So suck it up.
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if u kill a murderer, do u rape a rapist?
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Originally posted by goodheart:
While most cases of murder will get the death sentence, there are however a substantial number of cases where the murder is diagonised to have mental problems and they are given very light sentences such as between 5 to 10 years jail only.
While rape cases people are given around 10 to 20 years jail and murder cases where a innocent life is lost and the person gets only 5 to 10 years jail just because he/she has a mental problem.
And we are talking about murder not manslaughter where the person accidentally kill someone or out of self defence kill someone. The person purposely kill someone and only get 5 to 10 years jail while a rapist can get 10 to 20 years jail
Do you think this is fair?
I think this is not fair at all.
Unless the person accidentally kill someone or kill the person out of self defence than we can give the persona short jail sentence.
Even for cases such as husband or wife kill the other spouse because he/she find out the other person having a affair should also be given the death sentence
All murders whether got mental problem anot and irregardless of the motives should be given the death sentence.
Those knocked down by car most jialat. They get jailed,fined or license revoked only.
My mom kampong gt some ppl serve NS until insane, Mindef bo compensate them leh.
Nothing is fair in life.
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You find it leinient? Then how strict you want it to be? The punishment from highest hell?
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Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
Those knocked down by car most jialat. They get jailed,fined or license revoked only.
My mom kampong gt some ppl serve NS until insane, Mindef bo compensate them leh.
Nothing is fair in life.
This is only a accident so can let them off with a light punishmentWhereby a murder is done on purpose.
This is 2 different cases
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Originally posted by TIB1167D:
You find it leinient? Then how strict you want it to be? The punishment from highest hell?
death sentence for murder -
Originally posted by FireIce:
if u kill a murderer, do u rape a rapist?
Fireice is welcome to rape the rapist.The rapist will die of heart attack. That is as good as death sentence
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Originally posted by goodheart:
death sentence for murder
That's I believe the strictest. -
Originally posted by TIB1167D:
That's I believe the strictest.Nope
Singapore's death sentence for people who traffic more than 15 gram of drugs is the strictest
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Sighs........
Two wrongs doesn't make a right.
An insane person is not in control of himself, therefore the "intent" to kill is not there, just like you having a lower level of reasoning, we shall not hold you accountable for your postings.
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
Sighs........
Two wrongs doesn't make a right.
An insane person is not in control of himself, therefore the "intent" to kill is not there, just like you having a lower level of reasoning, we shall not hold you accountable for your postings.
But an insane person like you is still in control of yourself so we should hold you accuntable for your stupid postings.
Anyway, only an insane person just like you will be able to read other people's minds and know that they are not in control of themself
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Of course, it is fair.
You cannot convice a person guilty when he does not know what he is doing.
Supposed a 5 year old child kill his mother after watching terminator. He may not know what is going on either.
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Good heart aint good hearted after all
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What is the motive for the premeditated killing?
Your boss say you are ah qua, you angry, go NTUC Fairprice buy a knife and kill him. Homicide not amounting to murder.
You go find string, tie up your wife, suffocate her to death, pretend it is robbery, to collect insurance money. Hang.
Disqualified because of drink driving, drive BMW under disqualification, hit and run kill old man. Disqualified from driving for life, and 18 months jail. homicide by a rash act.
Not fair to the killee, but fair to the killer.
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Death may be different in the perspective of jurisprudence. Death sentence is perhaps one critical punishment which can’t be prescribed by a rule of law but is instead an ethical judgment expressing the conscience of that community.
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Originally posted by goodheart:
But an insane person like you is still in control of yourself so we should hold you accuntable for your stupid postings.
Anyway, only an insane person just like you will be able to read other people's minds and know that they are not in control of themself
You don't even understand the nature of mental illnesses. If mental illness/insanity impair a person's ability to know right from wrong, of course he is not liable for punishment.
Some are still liable for punishment but lighter sentence due to diminished responsibility.
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No need for mental illness. If there is mental illness, no trial.
Its disease of the mind. Take note, mind, not brain.
The accused is suffering from such disease of the mind, that he does not know what he is doing, and if he knows what he is doing, does not know that it is wrong.
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Originally posted by mancha:
What is the motive for the premeditated killing?
Your boss say you are ah qua, you angry, go NTUC Fairprice buy a knife and kill him. Homicide not amounting to murder.
You go find string, tie up your wife, suffocate her to death, pretend it is robbery, to collect insurance money. Hang.
Disqualified because of drink driving, drive BMW under disqualification, hit and run kill old man. Disqualified from driving for life, and 18 months jail. homicide by a rash act.
Not fair to the killee, but fair to the killer.
Motive should not be considered in a crime.
A person who steals money to pay for his gambling debts will have to go to jail.
A person who steals money and give it to the poor still have to go to jail.
A person who steals money to give to his wife who needs money to cure her cancer still goes to jail
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Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
You don't even understand the nature of mental illnesses. If mental illness/insanity impair a person's ability to know right from wrong, of course he is not liable for punishment.
Some are still liable for punishment but lighter sentence due to diminished responsibility.
So next time when you are caught for stealing you try to tell the judge that you do not know that its wrong and see if you can get a lighter sentence due to diminished responsibility
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Let me just make an example based on the show "secret garden" from Channel U
There are one bully who was abuse by his mother and another one with austism. The bully attcked an lady and as he escape, he make the one with austism to carry the lady handbag and instructed him : "If you get caught, just mention the handbag is snatched by me and I deserved it" and which the austism boy obediently told the police. If not for the help of Dr "Beng", this innocent mental ill boy would be sentenced to prison for nothing while the real culprit get away.
Similarly had this strike you that if death sentence is passed, an life cannot be brought back again, Also if the suspect is wrongly asscused and time had given him an chance to prove his innocent, which one would be better ?
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Originally posted by goodheart:
Motive should not be considered in a crime.
A person who steals money to pay for his gambling debts will have to go to jail.
A person who steals money and give it to the poor still have to go to jail.
A person who steals money to give to his wife who needs money to cure her cancer still goes to jail
You just contradicted yourself.
Motive is and should be considered.
Unless the person accidentally kill someone or kill the person out of self defence than we can give the person a short jail sentence.
Whats the bias with people being mentally ill ? Short jail sentence lol ? And killing a person out of self defence has no motive ? So what is motive
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Originally posted by goodheart:
So next time when you are caught for stealing you try to tell the judge that you do not know that its wrong and see if you can get a lighter sentence due to diminished responsibility
Yes thats right. I may even choose to tell the judge i have kleptomania and get myself totally out of trouble.
So ?
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Lol, looks like FireIce has mastered the art of trolling.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
Yes thats right. I may even choose to tell the judge i have kleptomania and get myself totally out of trouble.
So ?
You can try that and see if the judge and the psycharist will believe you than you will know how naive you are