Should girls be educated?
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Of course girls should be educated. I believe children should be treated in a genderless manner.
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Originally posted by Jiani:
how come guys cannot give birth
then should women who never give birth go to prison since guys need to go prison if they default on NS?
pls don't mix nature with obligations.
actually its ok to give people education but singapore women cant handle power. give them power and they go yaya and start to choose. if women demands equality, why can't they choose a lesser educated guys since educated guys have no problem choosing lesser educated girls?
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I'm a radical feminist who believes a girl deserves the same toilsome adademic discipline as a boy often recieves. That way she won't have the free-time and boredom to abuse sweet boys like Chen.
As they say "an idle mind is a devil's workshop".
My point is children should not be directly treated on a gender-differential basis. Women usually treat kids in a mostly genderless manner. I wish men would start doing the same.
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Originally posted by Warm hearted man passive:
I'm a radical feminist who believes a girl deserves the same toilsome adademic discipline as a boy often recieves. That way she won't have the free-time and boredom to abuse sweet boys like Chen.
As they say "an idle mind is a devil's workshop".
My point is children should not be directly treated on a gender-differential basis. Women usually treat kids in a mostly genderless manner. I wish men would start doing the same.
what r some of the trends of men treating children differently compared to women in terms of gender-equality?
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Originally posted by Loor:
what r some of the trends of men treating children differently compared to women in terms of gender-equality?
Ever since humans formed a society, the men of this society have always -- and in all cultures -- forced males of all ages to treat girls "better" than boys [without forcing females to do the same]. This 'pro-girl sexism' is [and always was] *far* more intense in non-western cultures -- including that of Singapore -- than in western cultures.
Here is my list of examples of non-western cultures:
1. Natives American "Indian" cultures
2. Latino cultures
3. Russia
4. All of Asia
5. Turkey
6. Kazakstan
7. Nations run by Islamic fundamentalists
8. All of Africa
9. Eastern Europe
10. All of what used to be in the Soviet Union location
11. Romania
12. South and Central AmericasPlease note: I'm not racist, after all, my ancestors are from Singapore. I'm of Tamilian descent but I was born and raised in USA. I can understand Tamil but I can't speak or write it.
'Pro-girl sexism' = society forces males of all ages to treat a girl-child "better" than boy-child of the same age and provide this treatment solely on the basis on gender.
"Better" = the following:
1. More compassion
2. More sympathy
3. More respect
4. More gentleness
5. More easiness
6. More empathy
7. More cleanliness
8. More protection
9. More luxury
10. More personal space
11. More privacy
12. More security
13. More freedom
14. More modesty
15. More decency... along with *less* physical contact.
On average, the adult woman:
1. Is physically weaker than the adult man
2. Is more emotional than the adult man
3. Is better behaved than the adult man
4. Is far more likely to be a victim of opposite-gender violence [e.g. violence may be sexual, domestic, or spousal abuse] than the adult man
5. Can get or be pregnant whereas the adult man can't
6. Is physically more delicate than the adult manAlso, it is likely natural for a man to want to treat an adult woman partially over an adult man -- this is seen in many mammalian species. For example in many species of large mammals -- such as bison --, the adult males are rough with each other but tender with the adult females.
Due to this, I believe males of all ages should treat adult women "better" than adult men. However, NO male -- of any age -- should *ever* be socially-mandated to treat girl-children better than boy-children because this will cause boys to develop an intense and life-long hatred for young girls and a hatred for the macho men who teach these boys to defer to girls. This sexism against boy children will likely cause boys to also despise society and it's irrational norms.
In addition, science has already proven that average girl-child is NOT *innately*:
1. Weaker
2. More sensitive
3. More delicate
4. Lower-IQed
5. Slower
6. Less energetic
7. Less aggresive
8. Less violent
9. Less cold-hearted [or more hot-hearted]
10. Less openly abusive to members of the opposite gender
11. Less openly sexist against members of the opposite gender
12. More tense
13. More emotional
14. Less emotionally-stable
15. More compassionate
16. More mature in personality... than the average boy-child of the same age.
Boy = male under 18 years of age = child
Girl = female under 18 years of age = child
Woman = female who is 18 years of age or older = adult
Man = male who is 18 years of age or older = adult
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ok...so those above 'might' be some reasons - but have you got any information that shows that men specifically are bias in gender treatment?
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Originally posted by Ah Gong:
low birth rate us due to highly educated girls in singapore...
unemployment all time high also becos girls taking guys jobs...
Cannot blame the girls.Everythings are related that causes low birth rate.
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Originally posted by Loor:
ok...so those above 'might' be some reasons - but have you got any information that shows that men specifically are bias in gender treatment?
All you have to do is read about basic human history, culture, and anthropology.
Here is how 'pro-girl sexism' started:
It most likely started more than thousands of years ago with a small gang of strong macho men [the only male homo-sapien humans existing at the time] who decided that they would treat girls "better" than boys. The gang singled out male individuals and forced them to follow and enforce this rule -- they left the females alone. These male individuals joined the gang and -- out of extreme fear -- began following and enforcing the gang's pro-girl, anti-boy rules. More and more male individuals began joining this gang -- out of fear for their own safety -- and submitting to their oppressive anti-boy regime. This is how the anti-boy, pro-girl gang got bigger. Members of this gang began teaching their boy-children -- likely through extreme corporal punishments -- to follow these sexist rules and pass these rules onto the next generation of children. Fathers who didn't teach their boy-children to follow this sexism were singled out by the gang [which was now big enough to be considered a society] and horrifyingly mistreated along with their helpless sons.
This is my theory as to why 'pro-girl sexism' exists. It exists for the same reason many other irrational, un-natural societal norms exists -- they are followed and enforced out of fear of facing social condemnation.
This historical gang of humans I describe pretty much had similar rules of most of today's street gangs. If they want you, they force you to join, and if you try to leave, they torture and kill you. If they see you and don't want you, they torture and kill you regardless of your actions.'Pro-girl sexism' is not at all innate or instinctive. It is an example of learned behavior that is practiced out of fear and shame.
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in conclusion
girls should stay home and cook and rear kids
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Men should go out and work hard, not end up in geyland, singapore pools, casinos, karaoke, pubs holding young foreign gals
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Men should go out and work hard, not end up in geyland, singapore pools, casinos, karaoke, pubs holding young foreign gals
we are doing that
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Originally posted by Ah Gong:
in conclusion
girls should stay home and cook and rear kids
Can you afford to support your wife at home? Unless you earn tons and tons of money if not shut up.
MCP!
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Originally posted by gorgorlokaychyong:
Can you afford to support your wife at home? Unless you earn tons and tons of money if not shut up.
MCP!
why not?
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last time people not much of entertainment eg. TV, HPs, internet etc so just make love and have babies ! now too many distractions !
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No doubt it's the education tat delays the marriage. my friend 24 year old then start uni cuz repeat n level. and NS for guys take the most active 2 years away ( around 19-22) plz dun expect all guys to earn what 10k a month by 30, not easy at all. i would suggest NS for females just in medical/clerical, at least they can take more able-bodied men to combat so maybe guys can serve shorter by few months or so, it helps alot
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Originally posted by junjie1989:
No doubt it's the education tat delays the marriage. my friend 24 year old then start uni cuz repeat n level. and NS for guys take the most active 2 years away ( around 19-22) plz dun expect all guys to earn what 10k a month by 30, not easy at all. i would suggest NS for females just in medical/clerical, at least they can take more able-bodied men to combat so maybe guys can serve shorter by few months or so, it helps alot
The hard truth
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haha this song NS song nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpfXkhjPfo&feature=related
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Originally posted by junjie1989:
No doubt it's the education tat delays the marriage. my friend 24 year old then start uni cuz repeat n level. and NS for guys take the most active 2 years away ( around 19-22) plz dun expect all guys to earn what 10k a month by 30, not easy at all. i would suggest NS for females just in medical/clerical, at least they can take more able-bodied men to combat so maybe guys can serve shorter by few months or so, it helps alot
so, you are implying sg men and sg girl also NS for 2 years, well that is gd, at least we foreigners girls can start work faster than sg guys and gals, and by the time they finished their Uni, we will be their superior -
"behind every sucessful man, there is a woman"
yes, gals shld be educated