Are most of Chinese here in Singapore weak in mandarin?
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I would feel better if I'm not the only one :o
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no leh. I can speak with ah tiong accent.
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are most of the chinese in Sg weak in mandarin..
subject verb agreement.... omit the 'here'..the chinese are already present in Sg 100+ or even 200+ years ago..
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Even the Old Great Man have problem learning mandarin and have released a book on it.
So, you are same as him.
Please buy his book and give him your support.
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Depends on the age group. The ah ma, ah pek, they cannot speak any mandarin whatsoever. They only know their mother tongue dialects.
Next generation who went to chinese schools, this group is the most fluent in usage of mandarin.
Next generation who attended the half fuck english schools, some are good in mandarin but poor in english, some good in english but poor in mandarin, others both half fuck or singlish.
Then you have the latest bananas, chinese who doesn't know mother tongue dialect or mandarin.
Basically, the dominant language in this country is english not mandarin, so mandarin is not used officially or used in written form. Under such a system where people seldom use mandarin in written form, but use another alien language, there is a tendency for fluency of mandarin to decline.
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i am the person who is not good at english and not good at chinese.
I can write english, read english, but have difficulty talking english.
I can talk chinese, but i have difficulty writing and reading chinese.
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
i am the person who is not good at english and not good at chinese.
I can write english, read english, but have difficulty talking english.
I can talk chinese, but i have difficulty writing and reading chinese.
You are the typical product of Lee Kuan Yew's half fuck system.
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Just to highlight a point.
The number of New Chinese Singaporeans are increasing.
So, some of them are not educated in English, eg Bus Driver and hawker.
They are comfortable with mandarin and not learning English.
Therefore, the usage of mandarin will increase in Singapore as the gate are opened to import more Chinese from China to make up for more income opportunity.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
Just to highlight a point.
The number of New Chinese Singaporeans are increasing.
So, some of them are not educated in English, eg Bus Driver and hawker.
They are comfortable with mandarin and not learning English.
Therefore, the usage of mandarin will increase in Singapore as the gate are opened to import more Chinese from China to make up for more income opportunity.
I propose after Lee Kuan Yew dies, change dominant language to mandarin and malay.
This sick joke of 75% chinese but have to use alien and colonial language must end, before the local cultures are destroyed.
But I don't know whether the peranakans in Singapore will support or oppose.
Any peranakans here can give some views on my proposal?
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I think it would be better if the parents choose for the children if they want to go to a english school or a mother tongue school
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
You are the typical product of Lee Kuan Yew's half fuck system.
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It's just so strange...
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Speaking and reading Chinese are not too difficult for me.But writing is one big issue for me.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
Even the Old Great Man have problem learning mandarin and have released a book on it.
Lee Kuan Yew is peranakan.
Mandarin is not the mother tongue of peranakans.
Although the sinkeh dominated Singapore's population, it was the babas who dominated public decision-making.
In effect, a baba minority captured sinkeh Singapore, and that minority's attitudes were more those of Victorian England than China.
It was the babas who were the framers of Singapore's rules and institutions. Many of Singapore's most prominent Chinese have had baba backgrounds. Lee Kuan Yew, who became prime minister of Singapore aged just 35, is the most obvious example. He claims a Hakka heritage, although his upbringing was that of a baba: at home, he spoke English with his parents and baba Malay to his grandparents. "Mandarin was totally alien to me and unconnected with my life," Lee said of his childhood.
For Lee, Chineseness was an acquired skill and later a political necessity. He was not brought up as a Chinese with a focus on China, but as a baba who looked to England. He followed the conventional career path of a baba and went to London to study law. And so Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore became Harry Lee of Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge. His father had given him and two of his brothers English, as well as Chinese, names.
Did Lee run Singapore as a piece of Asia mired in Chinese ways?
No. He ran it in a manner to which a British colonial administrator would have aspired.
http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/news/648273/
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Originally posted by Valencia-Ann:
Speaking and reading Chinese are not too difficult for me.But writing is one big issue for me.
another typical product.
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Originally posted by Valencia-Ann:
Speaking and reading Chinese are not too difficult for me.But writing is one big issue for me.
System must be reformed.
90% of what you write in school is in english, only 10% is in mandarin, so there appeared your problem.
If 90% mandarin, 10% english, your problem will disappear.
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i feel so much better after knowing i am not the only one who feels the way i do.
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
i feel so much better after knowing i am not the only one who feels the way i do.
The problem is a systemic problem.
Singaporeans go to half fuck schools. The end result will be half fuck.
This is natural and has nothing whatsoever to do with the students.
This irrational problem can only be resolved after Lee Kuan Yew is dead.
Actually in the first place neither mandarin or english is the mother tongue of chinese singaporeans.
Problem is their mother tongue dialects are also suppressed.
The main troublemaker and instigator of all these language problems is Harry Lee Kuan Yew. Due to his insecurities and political agendas, he has been messing around with the languages of local Singaporeans for decades.
The no.1 bastard in messing up local languages is Harry Lee Kuan Yew. I don't think anyone can really dispute that.
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Learning of an language is an individual thing.
If the TS is looking for excuse on not investing effort in learning mandarin, it is just a lazy excuse of "the rest of singaporean are also lousy in mandarin".
If TS is successful in his attempt, he can write a book to show the rest of singaporean on how he did it and make some money.
As for the great old man, it does not matter whether he is alive or not.
The cracks have already started in one of his first world class company.
This is definitely not a "isolated" incidents and more worms will come out of the rest of his first world companies.
Hope he stay all the way to see how his "world class" system handled all the honest mistakes that are not covered by template and SOP.
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me chinese bery no good
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definitely ...hokkien is still the "mainstream lingua" than english and mandarin ....that gave birth to Singlish...
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lol
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
Lee Kuan Yew is peranakan.
Mandarin is not the mother tongue of peranakans.
Although the sinkeh dominated Singapore's population, it was the babas who dominated public decision-making.
In effect, a baba minority captured sinkeh Singapore, and that minority's attitudes were more those of Victorian England than China.
It was the babas who were the framers of Singapore's rules and institutions. Many of Singapore's most prominent Chinese have had baba backgrounds. Lee Kuan Yew, who became prime minister of Singapore aged just 35, is the most obvious example. He claims a Hakka heritage, although his upbringing was that of a baba: at home, he spoke English with his parents and baba Malay to his grandparents. "Mandarin was totally alien to me and unconnected with my life," Lee said of his childhood.
For Lee, Chineseness was an acquired skill and later a political necessity. He was not brought up as a Chinese with a focus on China, but as a baba who looked to England. He followed the conventional career path of a baba and went to London to study law. And so Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore became Harry Lee of Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge. His father had given him and two of his brothers English, as well as Chinese, names.
Did Lee run Singapore as a piece of Asia mired in Chinese ways?
No. He ran it in a manner to which a British colonial administrator would have aspired.
http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/news/648273/
Wat to do?
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no leh my higher chinese A1 leh
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Uncle,..higher Chinese A1 is equivalent to their sec2 la.=.=
They do in-depth study of history and lit.they appreciate te language. Even papers are tested in Chinese.
how many good Chinese writers does sg have?..