we see some professors of chinese language in singapore bad in pronunciation but superb writers...
very rare u find them speak as fluent and precise than those in PRC dramas....
surely and naturally Guo Liang is good....
Originally posted by FireIce:me chinese bery no good
But you've just shown your singlish powderful.
Saw some mention of someone getting A1 for higher chinese. Good job but I can tell you it's something very academic. Put any scholar in with a decent interest in mandarin and he will get that kind of score. The key here is.....can you speak the language proficiently? Peppered with idioms and chinese culture / history. Even if one can, the local environment does not support it. That's why the standard of Singapore mandarin can only hover around mediocre levels. Doesn't help that mediacock comes up with half-fuck shows with half-fuck mandarin mixed with English. And the vocab used is mediocre to boot.
If you really wanna improve your level of mandarin and do the 5000 years of language history some justice, you have to move to China. Well, don't get me wrong, not to proudly champion the heritage of this northern dialect but it is in many ways linked to other dialects of China too. Cheers.
Why do we need to be good in chinese?
We are Singaporeans.
We are not PRC.
If you look at yourself at "I am a Singaporean Chinese" first, i have no comments.
But i look myself as "I am a Singaporean" 1st then my race.
Originally posted by gunner77:Why do we need to be good in chinese?
We are Singaporeans.
We are not PRC.
If you look at yourself at "I am a Singaporean Chinese" first, i have no comments.
But i look myself as "I am a Singaporean" 1st then my race.
The very same can be asked of English. Why? And race matters, if you pick a wife of another race, will your parents mind? Do you mind? Or is that everyone is a Singaporean.
Originally posted by Rock^Star:The very same can be asked of English. Why? And race matters, if you pick a wife of another race, will your parents mind? Do you mind? Or is that everyone is a Singaporean.
race definitely plays a part
I look down on chinese ppl who cannot speak proper mandarin....u think u go european countries even with fluent english the ang mos will still spit at ur face...u are no better then a banana..yellow outside white inside....so pls la....if ur chinese make sure u can speak at least proper mandarin....no matter wat u are going to be yellow unless u go buy urself a bottle of bleach to try n bleach urself white la....![]()
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most of Chinese here in Singapore weak in dialect oso
Originally posted by BanguIzai:most of Chinese here in Singapore weak in dialect oso
like me. i only know how to say "have you eaten" in hokkien.
Those second life uncles at Geyland and my place joo chiat are improving in their mandarin.
I don't think Singapore can develop into a proper state and develop nationalism or national culture or strong identity under an alien and colonial language such as english.
English is the cancer of Singapore nationalism and culture and must be destroyed.
We are still mentally shackled to colonialism through the alien language.
We cannot follow Lee Kuan Yew's way. His way is a rojak and garbage way of forming a state due to his inability to choose whether he is peranakan/british ang moh/ fake chinese identity.
Follow a person like Lee Kuan Yew on culture and language is ludicrous and insane.
ya, the japanses are proud of their languages, the korean, the thai, even the malaysia boleh are proud of their national language, but singapore, not a true identity of languages, all rojaked, even if speak english, also yellow banana type
ADBC, I am afraid I am not in the same boat as you. hahahaha! Chinese is beautiful, learn it on your own pace if you have the interest.
Singaporeans cannot follow Lee Kuan Yew's way on language, identity or cultural issues.
He himself has serious problems on his own identity.
I completely reject Lee Kuan Yew's way of developing Singapore nationhood.
He is a defect.
Follow Lee Kuan Yew means to follow cultural death.
I can speak mandarin but cannot write chinese character, maybe my name and other simple elementary stuffs.
But with the help of hanyupinyin, i'm able to write a lot more better.
Lee Kuan Yew's garbage must come to an end.
Singapore must develop a proper national identity, a proper state.
Not one base on alien imports.
That anglophile's time is up.
Originally posted by angel7030:ya, the japanses are proud of their languages, the korean, the thai, even the malaysia boleh are proud of their national language, but singapore, not a true identity of languages, all rojaked, even if speak english, also yellow banana type
Great comment from Angel7030 ! This is true.
I once went on an overseas tour with a group of SG friends to UK. An Ang Moh friend noticed two of my female SG chinese friends speaking to each other in English all the time. He ask them, whether they speak their mother tongue at home. They say no, they only know how to speak english. I feel embarassed.
its okay if you stay in sg....go overseas with lousy english or lousy chinese die liao
Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:I don't think Singapore can develop into a proper state and develop nationalism or national culture or strong identity under an alien and colonial language such as english.
English is the cancer of Singapore nationalism and culture and must be destroyed.
We are still mentally shackled to colonialism through the alien language.
We cannot follow Lee Kuan Yew's way. His way is a rojak and garbage way of forming a state due to his inability to choose whether he is peranakan/british ang moh/ fake chinese identity.
Follow a person like Lee Kuan Yew on culture and language is ludicrous and insane.
Lol are you still stuck in the 20th century?In this type of era English is actually the most important and one of the widely used language.
Originally posted by ADBC:Lol are you still stuck in the 20th century?In this type of era English is actually the most important and one of the widely used language.
It cannot be the dominant language.
We have our own local languages like other countries that can be used as dominant language. There is no need to use alien and colonial language as dominant language.
Only those who have identity problems and have inferiority complexes will choose a colonial language as dominant language.
Those with proud traditions will despise using alien languages as dominant language.
"I said that using a certain language to create a culture, the culture created can at best be a commercial culture, or technology culture, or we may call it pasar culture. It has no roots, and identifies itself with a certain material interest. It is the product of expediency.
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"It is like duckweed, floating at the harbour. When it absorbs fertilisers, it will flourish very quickly. But once it rains and floods set in, it will perish," he said in an interview conducted in a restaurant in Haadyai, near the Thai-Malaysian border.
http://ourstory.asia1.com.sg/independence/ref/plen3.html
Tajikistan's president has proposed banning the Russian language from being used in public institutions and official documents, a move he said would promote the development of Tajik and bolster patriotism in the country.
Emomali Rakhmon said in a televised address late on Wednesday.
http://tajikam.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=125&Itemid=39
Cultured people you don't go and follow, go and follow people with identity problems like Lee Kuan Yew on issues of language and culture.
This is ignorance and ludicrous and a disgrace.
u are not the only one. i can read and speak very well. but cannot write only. sg chinese 5 or 10 years later gonna extint