Is Australia a Racist Country?
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Racism normally refers to discrimination due to different colour skin. chinese singaporean and HKers discriminating against mainlanders is not racism.Originally posted by bangkokboy:PoRen, is it just like those chinese Singaporeans who discriminate against fellow chinese coming from China? If not similar, why? -
Please read the previous threads before posting. Thank you. And notice that I didn't use the word Racism, I use the word discriminate.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Racism normally refers to discrimination due to different colour skin. chinese singaporean and HKers discriminating against mainlanders is not racism.Originally posted by PoRen:It is very true. Many Aussies are extremely racist.
They even discriminate against fellow ang mos who are recent immigrants from Europe. -
They have mutual distrust to each other cause local Sporean believed majority of Chinese national will leave for other countries after getting Spore Pr.Originally posted by bangkokboy:PoRen, is it just like those chinese Singaporeans who discriminate against fellow chinese coming from China? If not similar, why?
Chinese national tend to be more outspoken n capable in their work. -
Then that negates Gazelle's newspaper cutting about croats and serbs and his argumentOriginally posted by sgdiehard:Racism normally refers to discrimination due to different colour skin. chinese singaporean and HKers discriminating against mainlanders is not racism.
. Both originate from the same slavic european group. -
At least in Australia, i felt safe going out at night compared to Indonesia.Originally posted by fymk:Then that negates Gazelle's newspaper cutting about croats and serbs and his argument . Both originate from the same slavic european group. -
didnt you read the sentence highlighted in RED?Originally posted by fymk:Then that negates Gazelle's newspaper cutting about croats and serbs and his argument . Both originate from the same slavic european group. -
Let's put it this way Gazelle ,
Of all the states I lived in ( Victoria, New South Wales, Australian Capital Territory), I never had issues. Yes , there are a few idiots out in the streets. But what do you know? YOU DO NOT EVEN LIVE IN AUSTRALIA - oh wait ...you CMI into Australia .
AC Nielsen ....the phone votes where you pay 50 cents to vote? or the consumer phone call? They reach out to the english speaking population more than the LOTE (language other than English).
You want to tell me about research?
Give me one PRIMARY research article with a proper research methodology
One which gives me the samples (especially sampling power) and the statistical methods used.
One which has a proper publication somewhere in a peer reviewed journal with a reputation .
Not some newspaper -
Originally posted by fymk:
Why dont you quote me research paper that tell us otherwise, instead of trying to speak as if John Howard is your daddy or something..
Let's put it this way Gazelle ,
Of all the states I lived in ( Victoria, New South Wales, Australian Capital Territory), There are a few idiots out in the streets. [b] But what do you know? YOU DO NOT EVEN LIVE IN AUSTRALIA - oh wait ...you CMI into Australia .
AC Nielsen ....the phone votes where you pay 50 cents to vote? or the consumer phone call? They reach out to the english speaking population more than the LOTE (language other than English).
You want to tell me about research?
Give me one PRIMARY research article with a proper research methodology
One which gives me the samples (especially sampling power) and the statistical methods used.
One which has a proper publication somewhere in a peer reviewed journal with a reputation .
Not some newspaper [/b] -
You started the argument - you prove it then. I am only here as a commenter who ACTUALLY does live in Australia , UNLIKE YOUOriginally posted by Gazelle:Why dont you quote me research paper that tell us otherwise, instead of trying to speak as if John Howard is your daddy or something.. . Ai ya ....everywhere got racist idiots.
Why you want to go on and on about only Australia? You are acting as though Australia just shoved something up into your backside. Cannot get in , cannot get in lor . Don't blame Australia for not letting you in. If Singaporeans are doing well over there, you should be happy for them mah .....that is unless YOU DO NOT WANT OTHERS TO DO BETTER THAN YOU. -
Yo chill guys. Racism is everywhere.
Gazelle, it is fair when FYMK states her personal experience because she does reside in Australia.
FYMK, it is fair when Gazelle states that racism exist in Australia. Although I do feel that sometimes it teeters on the personal side...
All in all, I think we should all stop. -
Originally posted by fymk:
You are just one individual who have been living in australia for the past 4 to 5 year, (most of the time as a student) what makes you think that your "experience" is more credible than the papers issue by ACN, UN, and UNSW?
You started the argument - you prove it then. I am only here as a commenter who [b] ACTUALLY does live in Australia , UNLIKE YOU . Ai ya ....everywhere got racist idiots.
Why you want to go on and on about only Australia? You are acting as though Australia just shoved something up into your backside. Cannot get in , cannot get in lor . Don't blame Australia for not letting you in. If Singaporeans are doing well over there, you should be happy for them mah .....that is unless YOU DO NOT WANT OTHERS TO DO BETTER THAN YOU.[/b] -
Correction - most of the time as a worker there.Originally posted by Gazelle:You are just one individual who have been living in australia for the past 4 to 5 year, (most of the time as a student) what makes you think that your "experience" is more credible than the papers issue by ACN, UN, and UNSW?
Do you see other forumners who migrated there complaining in sgforums? I don't. Do you?
What makes you think I am arguing against the UN? I am arguing against YOUR lack of analysis . The paper you quoted is directed at indigenous populations - if you know anything about indigenous australians , you know the problem is too complex to be solved.
A good research paper always incorporate their research methodologies , statistical methods and biases . So far you only presented research papers which does not show analysis or linkage back to your argument and you want to argue with me?
Have you lived here in Australia to comment on your own treatment ? If not, shut up and quit using papers you DO NOT ANALYSE to present your argument . You are just a migratory reject whose ego have been injured when the country does not want you in. Or else why the animosity against one country , not others? Tell me then. OR is it because you are just jealous of others who went over there and done well? -
Originally posted by fymk:
As far as I know there are still lots of racial tension between the white and the indigenous australian. NO? Didnt you just label the aboriginal town as a high risk area with killing day in day out? Have you ever ask why are they in this stage and not the white criminals who have "migrated" there? I presume you are assuming that all aboriginals are aggressive animal who like killing each other?
Correction - most of the time as a worker there.
Do you see other forumners who migrated there complaining in sgforums? I don't. Do you?
What makes you think I am arguing against the UN? I am arguing against YOUR lack of analysis . The paper you quoted is directed at indigenous populations - if you know anything about indigenous australians , you know the problem is too complex to be solved.
A good research paper always incorporate their research methodologies , statistical methods and biases . So far you only presented research papers which does not show analysis or linkage back to your argument and you want to argue with me?
[b] Have you lived here in Australia to comment on your own treatment ? If not, shut up and quit using papers you DO NOT ANALYSE to present your argument . You are just a migratory reject whose ego have been injured when the country does not want you in. Or else why the animosity against one country , not others? Tell me then. OR is it because you are just jealous of others who went over there and done well? [/b]
I assume I can also label your as a reject who cannot make it in Singapore, and you are jealous that singaporeans who can make a decent living without being a white co.ck sucker in this country. right? -
Think of it logicallyOriginally posted by Gazelle:I assume I can also label your as a reject who cannot make it in Singapore, and you are jealous that singaporeans who can make a decent living without being a white co.ck sucker in this country. right?
Why would a country want a reject who cannot make it in their own country? Does not make sense , does it ? Especially when there are so many migrants rejected through the application process and whining about all the bad things there is in Australia after their rejection , like you do .
Why go for a crumbs (in Singapore) when you can have a whole loaf of bread (in Australia) ? Are you just so jealous that others make it through and you can't , therefore the need for you to sink low enough to use RACIST overtones ? By using such overtones, you show that you yourself are a RACIST too. -
I am not saying racist individuals do not exist. They exist everywhere in Asia, in Europe, in America, in the Pacific . There are legislation in Australia against discrimination .Originally posted by bangkokboy:Yo chill guys. Racism is everywhere.
Gazelle, it is fair when FYMK states her personal experience because she does reside in Australia.
FYMK, it is fair when Gazelle states that racism exist in Australia. Although I do feel that sometimes it teeters on the personal side...
All in all, I think we should all stop.
I am asking him to stop bashing a country when he does not even know the real issues. But obviously he cannot stop , because he himself is bashing caucasians himself by the racist overtones he uses. Why? Probably he got rejected from the migration pool , I met this type of people before - plenty of them. -
Originally posted by fymk:
So I presume that Singaporeans are crumbs while you as a white co.ck sucking ham stuck between two white bread.
Think of it logically
Why would a country want a reject who cannot make it in their own country? Does not make sense , does it ? Especially when there are so many migrants rejected through the application process and [b] whining about all the bad things there is in Australia after their rejection , like you do .
Why go for a crumbs (in Singapore) when you can have a whole loaf of bread (in Australia) ? Are you just so jealous that others make it through and you can't , therefore the need for you to sink low enough to use RACIST overtones ? By using such overtones, you show that you yourself are a RACIST too. [/b] -
Is there a problem with your comprehension? I specifically put crumbs (in Singapore) . I am just earning a higher wage overseas to make my life more comfortable and more enjoyable. I have no age discrimination in employment looming over me because the unions say so . Why ? You Jealous ar?Originally posted by Gazelle:So I presume that Singaporeans are crumbs while you as a white co.ck sucking ham stuck between two white bread.
Why do you resort to personal attacks and racist overtones when you cannot win an argument ? So you are going to call every single singaporean who work for MNCs or caucasian owned company that in Singapore as well?
So this is the best you can do- come up with this stupid excuse that someone who makes it in Australia has to suck up to caucasians. Makes me want to laugh loudly. Look , if your way of going up is kissing your superior's bum (since you like to imply that alot), then I am not like you at all.
I don't need to suck up to anyone. I have the skills and experience they want . Not my problem if Australia does not want you! -
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Originally posted by fymk:
A case of sour grapes.
Is there a problem with your comprehension? I specifically put crumbs (in Singapore) . I am just earning a higher wage overseas to make my life more comfortable and more enjoyable. I have no age discrimination in employment looming over me because the unions say so . [b] Why ? You Jealous ar?
Why do you resort to personal attacks and racist overtones when you cannot win an argument ? So you are going to call every single singaporean who work for MNCs or caucasian owned company that in Singapore as well?
So this is the best you can do- come up with this stupid excuse that someone who makes it in Australia has to suck up to caucasians. Makes me want to laugh loudly. Look , if your way of going up is kissing your superior's bum (since you like to imply that alot), then I am not like you at all.
I don't need to suck up to anyone. I have the skills and experience they want . Not my problem if Australia does not want you! [/b] -
Originally posted by fymk:
Again we are not interested to talk about your "success" and "achievement" in australia because you have said this in the forum too many times already.
Is there a problem with your comprehension? I specifically put crumbs (in Singapore) . I am just earning a higher wage overseas to make my life more comfortable and more enjoyable. I have no age discrimination in employment looming over me because the unions say so . [b] Why ? You Jealous ar?
Why do you resort to personal attacks and racist overtones when you cannot win an argument ? So you are going to call every single singaporean who work for MNCs or caucasian owned company that in Singapore as well?
So this is the best you can do- come up with this stupid excuse that someone who makes it in Australia has to suck up to caucasians. Makes me want to laugh loudly. Look , if your way of going up is kissing your superior's bum (since you like to imply that alot), then I am not like you at all.
I don't need to suck up to anyone. I have the skills and experience they want . Not my problem if Australia does not want you! [/b]
And furthermore just because Australia is willing to pay more for a specific type of health care "foreign talent" that doesnt mean that australia is a loaf of bread while singapore is crumbs. Is that another white surpremacy theory you try to preach here?
I would definitely prefer to use my skill and talent for a country i call home rather than being a white co.ck sucker in a country that call you WOGS -
A case of monkey see monkey do.Originally posted by maurizio13:A case of sour grapes. -
You were responding to what PoRen said, I think it is wrong to compare what he said about the Aussies with the Chinese in Singapore and China.Originally posted by bangkokboy:
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Originally posted by PoRen:
It is very true. Many Aussies are extremely racist.
They even discriminate against fellow ang mos who are recent immigrants from Europe.
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Croats and Serbs are clearly two different ethnic races. While Serbs originated from central europe, the origin of the Croates was unclear and there is a theory that says they are of Iranian origin. We should not forget the war in Kosovos and Bosnia where both races went all out to eliminate the other. What happened in Australia shows that hatred remains between the two races.Originally posted by fymk:Then that negates Gazelle's newspaper cutting about croats and serbs and his argument . Both originate from the same slavic european group.
There is no question that that was racism. -
I know what you mean, but personally I feel that it applies, because he mentioned about Aussies discriminating against fellow ang-mohs, similar to how chinese singaporeans are discriminating against fellow chinese?Originally posted by sgdiehard:You were responding to what PoRen said, I think it is wrong to compare what he said about the Aussies with the Chinese in Singapore and China.
We must all admit there are such incidents am I wrong? -
Guys, namely Gazelle and FYMK, I think it's time we cease this discussion.