JI Leader Mas Selamat Escaped From Detention Centre
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Originally posted by hoboonkee78:...
Info.: Left leg limping, dark complexion, bearded ...?
There is still one latest (no pun intended) detail.
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He will be the inspiration for many prisoners. Statistics should have shown that there have been a significant increase in number and frequency of pee in prison.
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Just got back from Singapore and heard lots of awful stories about Mas Selamat from my nieces and nephews.Primary school teachers are telling scary stories about what Selamat would do to them if he catches them.While at the airport military police are seen walking in 3 men team cluster fcuking and talking c0ck on patrol.Just another day in Singapore I guess.
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selamat is safe
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Originally posted by t_a_s:
selamat is safe
I have afeeling the terrorist could escaped to other countries already. -
T_a_s: yah lor. My girlfriend went there last saturday for Qing Ming festival. She complained the whole worship part ended about 2 hours later than previously, due to the road block. Actually, why the focus search at cemeteries? aren't many hiding places at a cemetery like old choa chu kang cemetery, isn't it... Or is there? Hahaa.. nvr reali explored that place b4, lots of camps and bases down that place though, right. Think the civil defence academy, home team academy, and tengah airbase around that area. At this stage, I think the searchers themselves might be feeling burned out already. The top move their mouths, the bottom ones do the crap. Guess its the same any and everywhere. Pity the searchers though.
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gnitset
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Originally posted by pacoboy:
T_a_s: yah lor. My girlfriend went there last saturday for Qing Ming festival. She complained the whole worship part ended about 2 hours later than previously, due to the road block. Actually, why the focus search at cemeteries? aren't many hiding places at a cemetery like old choa chu kang cemetery, isn't it... Or is there? Hahaa.. nvr reali explored that place b4, lots of camps and bases down that place though, right. Think the civil defence academy, home team academy, and tengah airbase around that area. At this stage, I think the searchers themselves might be feeling burned out already. The top move their mouths, the bottom ones do the crap. Guess its the same any and everywhere. Pity the searchers though.
Selamat must have watched Prison Break before the Toilet Berak so he went digging in the cemetary for new sets of clothes
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.. how much longer are they going to search?
... soon it will be 2 months, then 3 months, then 4 months, and 5 months, so on so forth...
... how many 'phases' of search can there be for just ONE man?
an island like Singapore so small, ONE man cannot be found after so much time, can that man be still alive or has he been in the first place???
... if he can escape from right under the assess of ISD, and the entire security force cannot locate him, WHO the hell is there left who CAN stop him when he eventually decides to blow something up here in SG???
.. I shudder at this thought....
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It isn't really that hard to hide in singapore actually. One thing authority not doing and can't afford to do is mount a door to door search. Wanted criminals can always just hide in some gutsy harbourer house and remains indoors. Just imagine if some harbourer with balls, willing to take the risk, unafraid of the consequences, harbouring msk. That's how some fugitives managed to remain undetected, I think. One hdb block contains how many units and how many blocks of hdb are there. Whoa.... the efforts and disturbance it will cause.
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he is still in singapore probably under ground with 2 stone
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Originally posted by pacoboy:
It isn't really that hard to hide in singapore actually. One thing authority not doing and can't afford to do is mount a door to door search. Wanted criminals can always just hide in some gutsy harbourer house and remains indoors. Just imagine if some harbourer with balls, willing to take the risk, unafraid of the consequences, harbouring msk. That's how some fugitives managed to remain undetected, I think. One hdb block contains how many units and how many blocks of hdb are there. Whoa.... the efforts and disturbance it will cause.
With this Government giving scant regard to local sensitivities and little respect to anyone's rights when it comes to political security - they could very easily comb through the homes of every 'Malay' homes in the HDB heartlands {as the most likely home that will harbor MSK will be from his own ethnic group}.
The Government HDB policy has only allowed a limited number of this ethnic group to reside per HDB block - when even in a resale situation, the same unit can only be sold to another Malay or minority ethnic group.
However, this action will risk antagonising the entire Singaporean Malays, who are already embarrassed by the spotlight from the actions of these religious extremists in their midst, and the Government do not need this ethnic group to add to the troubles already filling up their plate.
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Originally posted by pacoboy:
It isn't really that hard to hide in singapore actually. One thing authority not doing and can't afford to do is mount a door to door search. Wanted criminals can always just hide in some gutsy harbourer house and remains indoors. Just imagine if some harbourer with balls, willing to take the risk, unafraid of the consequences, harbouring msk. That's how some fugitives managed to remain undetected, I think. One hdb block contains how many units and how many blocks of hdb are there. Whoa.... the efforts and disturbance it will cause.
Police can only knock doors and ask if everything is ok cuz need search warrant to enter so Mas Selamat is safe for now
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Another Al Qaeda operative escaped from captivity - using toilet break trick.
Mauritania is now also conducting a manhunt for an Al Qaeda captive who made a jail break from the court after asking to visit the toilet.
It looks like this ''toilet escape routine'' is part of Al Qaeda training syllabus in escape and evasion from captivity.
For more details see this Friday edition of the Straits Times - 4 April 2008 - Page 3.
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... if they search every household, a very long que can form outside Sub Courts...
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I heard that Sg they already pinned him down liao....bt just pretend haven found him...this is inner story...bt no one noes...they said by saying his not dead is safe for everyone...if not if say he died...then his blah blah will come revenge...
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Oh, our leading man said,
its the guards negligence.
by this, I like to ask:
1. Is the great Toilet Escape of the Century blamed on the Guards or the PEOPLE? Not any leading men is it? In whatever ways? In all ways?
2. poreans are said to be Complacent when they believe the gubbymen will take care of all security.
But is this a normal security issue or the mudder of all security issue at the highest level of concern? Who is responsible for such Security? Uncle lee who kbkb in kopi shop or our leading men?
So what is the Solution to rid complacency? Have another set of leading men to ensure no complacency?
3. Is it wrong for people to Expect reasonable security for World Record Market Value? Is anything in life free? Free income ? How wrong is it to demand high expection? The expectation for such a high security issue should be very high. If its for petty theft or farting in public issues, expectation would then not be so high.
4. Since its reported that our dear Abang had escaped before , and he is Terrorist, did the responsible leading man have ensured that extra security attention was put on this escaped-before TERRORIST? If Operationally, this aspect was taken cared of properly, would the limper have walked out of the DC? Did the leading responsible man personally put emphasis and keep close attention to the securing of our dear abang given the highest level of security threat he can possess? Was it left to the hands of a Guard for National Security of the highest of all mudder of orders?
5. The Pore takes pride in giving impression that it is very safe and well controlled place. Why is it left to a Guard to ensure this level of impression is well maintained? Would it be unwise? Who is responsible? Oh I see, a guard. National Security. of the highest of all mudders of all levels. Oh, I c.
6. Now that a guard is found to be complacent, lets focus on the re-capture operation planned, managed by our leading men. lets look this as a separate issue. So far, its been 5 weeks and counting. Is the Pore too big to locate a limper? Next time, is someone needs to be captured for other crimes, any crime, how long would our leading men and women take , require, need, for a capture? What if there are 10 such criminals on the loose? Would it take 10 times the amount of time or effort or resources? This aspect, would it be a complacent guard to be responsible?
Ginahs and Chabohs and Unkers, there you have it, your leading man have said it. The Guard was Complacent. Your future is in safe hands. doon worry. doon compracent. you have leading men of world's highest market value to ensure smooth and proper running even for national security issues. Well done.
So, overall, seems to you, who is to be blamed based on the articulation by SUE-ANN Chia and GOH CHIN LIAN of the most unbiased and world class and believable news media of the century? The reporters as unbiased as the Press.
I have not stopped my 'escape' plan, if u knoe wtf i mean. (pun intended).
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How some suddenly Singaporeans are being blamed as being a complacent bunch?
The kopitiam ah pek and ah soh should be forming volunteer groups to patrol the detention centre to ensure these escapes don't happen?
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To prevent prisoners from escaping all detainees should be fitted with a small explosive that is triggered to go off should they leave the compound. It should be strong enough to blow off an arm or leg but not powerful enough to cause too much collateral damage. If they want to be suicide bombers, let them have a taste of it.
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Did they check the toilet bowl? Maybe he's hiding inside?
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In other words, the inquiry has established that only the guards were at fault not the system of supervision, or administration of the high-security prisons.
The latter is probably too sensitive or confidential to be investigated or made public because if systemic administrative or policy responsibilities are to be checked or reported the outcome will surely show up too much worms in the can which may tend to embarrass the higher-ups.
Anyway as a saying goes the buck has got to stop somewhere so in this case the rot has got to stop somewhere too so as tp avoid rotting the core.
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First upon the breaking of news about Mas Selamat's toilet break escape from terrorist prison MM Lee was quick to tell the international audience that the fault lies in complacency of the government to lessen the impact of such low-class prison security on his Arab investors.
Now he says the fault lies in the negligence of the prison guard. One wonders why in this case we still needs a captain or manager and pay him millions to become world class? He is obviously sending a loud message to his civil servant inquiry panel to stay complacent - as complacent as they can get. -
Anyone who ever watch the japanese gory n violent show Battle Royal should have noted the students were made to wear a small and tight brace on their neck with a small explosive at their throat . Anyone not obedient or breaking any rule will have their brace exploded resulting in blood gushing out from their throat . Perhaps singapore should use that idea on highly dangerouse pple like mas selamat . So that they don't have to be so troublesome n can also save their own face by just detonating it to let him die then to have to explain to public and throwing their own face cos untill now they still can't find him despite giving so many excuses . And the minister in charge still can sit in his position and continue telling " fictional stories " .
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What is the purpose of MM Lee making the announcement through the media that the guard is negligent.
The answer is very simple.
If he rings up someone in the Inquiry Panel directly or through his secretary it can be traced back to him that that could amount to wrong doing like abuse of power and politically dangerous.
He is not that stupid as he could be exposed by whistle blower one day.
So the safest is to do it is to use the media way which he has always seemed to be able to use in the past with similar announcements even before inquiries carried out their jobs.His methodology appears to be to use the media to send subtle messages for someone higher than panel to pick up.
That higher someone may be a senior civil servant who will catch the message and will be too afraid to ignore it because he is under the thumb of such power in terms of keeping his job or promotion or bonuses so he will have to one-way-or-another work subtly within to get the panel to take the cue and decide the guard is to be the fall guy.
Authoritarian rule is dangerous for a country because of such insider working to serve the power that be's own interest.
If we follow the full fledged democracy in the original Westminster model parliamentary MPs would be all ready to question and take up from there but in our case MPs dare not interfere and will leave alone such hidden power control from behind. That is why we have NKF problems persisted for so many years until the change of dynasty to allow a once-in-a-blue-moon chance to open up the wrong doings for internal power ascendancy purpose. -
if it is the fault
of high level minister,
it will be covered up and put the blame on the poor guard, this is politics, very dirty, the old man
uses it from last time to
fight communists til today to fight the oppositions.