True life story believe a not
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Everyone made mistakes in their life. Most importantly , they must learn from it.Originally posted by kiekie:Thanks for all ur advices.
In fact i tot i had gotten out of it, i always tried not to tink abt the process tat i had gone thru and avoid any topics related to it. I nv bring up these to any of my buddies except 1 who was my closest sis cuz i dun want to be reminded of my wrong deeds.
Reflecting on wat foxwalk had said....U r a serial killer! i realised tat i had been deceiving myself all these while.
Thinking back, Actually i mind a lot abt my abortions. Whenever i saw any movies related to it or heard my colleagues talking abt it, i will pretend tat i dun feel anyting. In fact, my heart was throbbing in pain. what else can i do? cry in front of my frenz telling them abt my abortions?
If its not for my character, i dun tink i cud even have the opportunity to post my encounters here.
Kiekie , your story is quite controversial - there might be people taking offence from it. There will always be someone disagreeing with how your life went. One thing is to hold your head high and move on to the next stage of your life. If you feel that you cannot make peace with yourself regarding the abortion - talk to a counsellor . Might help - may not help - but at least get it out of your system. Most importantly - move on.
Foxwalk - you might feel offended reading her story . Fair enough . we are only human . I don't think reminding her of her abortion is constructive at all . She sounds guilty , judging from her words - probably this is just abit therapeutic for her to reflect back on her life .
Something could come out good of her story - someone else reading , might be going to make the same mistake - and then her story could have prevented that person from the mistake. We just don't know. -
she started by saying that she welcomes all comments, and when i posted something sarcastic "looking for another bf cuz she got dumped" (as inspired from the lame way she dates all her r/s. look at it. it's one after another. i dun think this kid knows what's love in the first place. i don't claim to know it all, but at least i'm not the kind of wise idiot to begin one r/s right after one ends), she reacted in all crazy ways. i posted 2 lines, she bombed me paragraphs with my names in caps. she gained public sympathy thru inciting public hate for me. oh well. she can do that. i don't have sympathy for people with low intellect, i'm sorry but that's me. she can't eve see the difference between sarcasm and "cursing and swearing". in fact she swore at me like i dunno how many times.
i din think she needed help so why is she posting there anyway? note that i dun like people who post nonsense as replies in aunt agony. however i feel that what is she doing there, but showcasing her r/s for all to see her as desirable.
i think all her mistakes are her own doing.
and if you looked back at how she replied to me with her "i dont think u even had anyone before", she obviously is someone who prides herself on having many relationships, and looks down (for whatever stupid reason there might be) on others who've had fewer or none.
it's none of anyone's concern if i'm attached, i don't think she should even ask in the 1st place. if it satisfies her curiosity, yes i'm happily attached. and i'm NOT the kind who rebounds so quickly.
because i do know more about love than her, despite not having an impressive r/s resume.
i'm sorry but i really cannot tolerate those who seek sympathy and have a rational intelligence that appears to mismatch her chronological age.
to kiekie, sorry i posted here again though i said i would not. -
u r really stupid... i was calling u cretin, not Shake_Spear... proves my point that you just have sub normal intelligence..hahahahah
if u wana post it, post it in the threads then, u dun have to pm me fox. -
meow! cat fight still on-going...
*me siam fast*
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i dun think this kid knows what's love in the first place. i don't claim to know it all, but at least i'm not the kind of wise idiot to begin one r/s right after one ends)
(all humans made mistakes, one canot be rational at all times i supposed.)
she gained public sympathy thru inciting public hate for me. oh well. she can do that. i don't have sympathy for people with low intellect, i'm sorry but that's me. she can't eve see the difference between sarcasm and "cursing and swearing". in fact she swore at me like i dunno how many times.
(yah, i admitted i did, and so did u? then wat do u expect? me to thanks u for saying tat i muz be killed by my current bf juz bcuz i was to busy to update my threads? If tat pleases u, ok thanks fox for ur comment. I really duno wat u want from me.........................................)
i din think she needed help so why is she posting there anyway? note that i dun like people who post nonsense as replies in aunt agony. however i feel that what is she doing there, but showcasing her r/s for all to see her as desirable.
(This is Aunt AgonyÂ…Â…Â…Â…..wat have I done to deserve all these from u? )
i think all her mistakes are her own doing. (Speaking from the bottom of my heart, I agreed with u)
and if you looked back at how she replied to me with her "i dont think u even had anyone before", she obviously is someone who prides herself on having many relationships, and looks down (for whatever stupid reason there might be) on others who've had fewer or none.
(excuse me, I nv ever meant tatÂ…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â…Â….)
it's none of anyone's concern if i'm attached, i don't think she should even ask in the 1st place. if it satisfies her curiosity, yes i'm happily attached. and i'm NOT the kind who rebounds so quickly.
(pls lor, I didnÂ’t even ask if u had a bfÂ…Â….. )
because i do know more about love than her, despite not having an impressive r/s resume.
( how can u compare ur own r/s with others? ItÂ’s totally differentÂ…..)
i'm sorry but i really cannot tolerate those who seek sympathy and have a rational intelligence that appears to mismatch her chronological age.
to kiekie, sorry i posted here again though i said i would not.
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i really duno when u r going to stop all these..............................and make me wonder how ur bf can tahan a gf like u when u both quarrel. Never ending....
yah, i know after reading this, u r sure going to explode again. I m prepared.......... liao. i think u got some attitude problem or watever.
wats wrong wif u huh? this is my life leh, canot change the past mah, wat do u espect me to do? u wana turn back the times for me issit? -
Fox can make peace with kiekie bcos i feel that different ppl have different mindset and tends to overlook thing at different angle so juz make peace then you got more friends ma....Originally posted by foxwalk:she started by saying that she welcomes all comments, and when i posted something sarcastic "looking for another bf cuz she got dumped" (as inspired from the lame way she dates all her r/s. look at it. it's one after another. i dun think this kid knows what's love in the first place. i don't claim to know it all, but at least i'm not the kind of wise idiot to begin one r/s right after one ends), she reacted in all crazy ways. i posted 2 lines, she bombed me paragraphs with my names in caps. she gained public sympathy thru inciting public hate for me. oh well. she can do that. i don't have sympathy for people with low intellect, i'm sorry but that's me. she can't eve see the difference between sarcasm and "cursing and swearing". in fact she swore at me like i dunno how many times.
i din think she needed help so why is she posting there anyway? note that i dun like people who post nonsense as replies in aunt agony. however i feel that what is she doing there, but showcasing her r/s for all to see her as desirable.
i think all her mistakes are her own doing.
and if you looked back at how she replied to me with her "i dont think u even had anyone before", she obviously is someone who prides herself on having many relationships, and looks down (for whatever stupid reason there might be) on others who've had fewer or none.
it's none of anyone's concern if i'm attached, i don't think she should even ask in the 1st place. if it satisfies her curiosity, yes i'm happily attached. and i'm NOT the kind who rebounds so quickly.
because i do know more about love than her, despite not having an impressive r/s resume.
i'm sorry but i really cannot tolerate those who seek sympathy and have a rational intelligence that appears to mismatch her chronological age.
to kiekie, sorry i posted here again though i said i would not.
Make more frenz better then more enemy ma rite
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hmm..don't mind if i say this.
although this is aunt agony, you suppose to get all the nice advices/counselling blah blah, i felt that foxwalk wasn't in wrong.
she's providing her point of view.. and this is very important in reality (not just in forums). this is how people out there are looking at u.. they could be consoling this minute, but thinking otherwise.
like many have stated that different people have different mindset/perceptions, you can't expect everyone to empathise you or sympathise u.
hope you all don't argue anymore.. i guess kiekie is blessed with happiness right now. so, not more arguments ok?
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Yes, this is a forum, your exploits are opened for all to see. You should be expecting both good or not so good responses.
I would guess you have way way too much freedom.
- To have have so many relationship at such a young age.
- 'O' levels are very important, my parents would break my legs if my studies slide.
- To have casual sex and 2 abortions?
Where your parents when you have all this problems?
In my parent's words, it call 'Zi Ai' or 'self respect for ownself'.
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that's exactly my point!Originally posted by Magnus:Yes, this is a forum, your exploits are opened for all to see. You should be expecting both good or not so good responses.
I would guess you have way way too much freedom.
- To have have so many relationship at such a young age.
- 'O' levels are very important, my parents would break my legs if my studies slide.
- To have casual sex and 2 abortions?
Where your parents when you have all this problems?
In my parent's words, it call 'Zi Ai' or 'self respect for ownself'.
What's the world coming to now??
i appreciate that there are some fair minded pple. there may be fewer of such pple speaking up for fairness in here, but for what it's worth, empty vessels do make the most sound.
reasons that i do not sympathize:
1) obviously poster does not know what love is for her to jump into one right after it ends almost everytime. if u truly cared about someone you wouldn't be able to do that so quickly.
2) have sex with pple despite thinking they're losers... use a vibrator for god sakes if u must..
3) she's not manipulated by one single bf to have 2 abortions... she did it with 2 different men. shows she's either desperate, or has no brains
4) she's not even from a broken family. all is well and nice and her family seems supportive to me. i pity her mum. despite being so supportive, she still gets someone like her for a daughter
5) 8 relationships??? u took so many to figure out what went wrong??? i would think someone sensible would have learned her lesson after one abortion. if she's had only one, i can make my peace with that.
6) and pleas, learn some new words.. don't swear at me and call me "ass" or some simple word a kindergarten kid could've used and then turn ard and say i'm swearing at you. like i said, sarcasm is lost on pple like kk.
7) only pple who cannot argue must bring in other pple. i dun think at any poitn did i insult your mother or bfs, but u insulted mine..
PS: Shake_spear told me he's laughing behind your back for being such a moron and advised me against arguing with you since all point would be lost on someone like you who only after 8 long years, and 2 abortions, finally
leanred (or claimed to) her mistakes.
as always, a little education for the little one screaming "ASS"--
A day is lost if one has not laughed. - French (on the conduct of life)
thanks for all the laughs.... bring them on baby.. or oops am i banned from saying this word now...
last i checked, singapore is still a free country...
i'd never at any one point told u to stop talking in here... but you and your khakis keep rallying for tt... well.. unless u get the PAP to change the constitution, i will not do that.
here's a link for you to look up the word "constitution"
http://dictionary.reference.com/
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Originally posted by kiekie:i really duno when u r going to stop all these..............................and make me wonder how ur bf can tahan a gf like u when u both quarrel. Never ending....
yah, i know after reading this, u r sure going to explode again. I m prepared.......... liao. i think u got some attitude problem or watever.
wats wrong wif u huh? this is my life leh, canot change the past mah, wat do u espect me to do? u wana turn back the times for me issit?
yes u r right.. i exploded into laughter![color]
I dun have an attitude problem, its you who have a problem with my attitude
well u claimed to not quarrel and see what happens.. i know why u din quarrel, cuz u simply dunno how to.
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F**k off la! Go and start your own thread and KPKB.Originally posted by foxwalk:
yes u r right.. i exploded into laughter![color]
I dun have an attitude problem, its you who have a problem with my attitude
well u claimed to not quarrel and see what happens.. i know why u din quarrel, cuz u simply dunno how to.
what a fun thread.
(WHO'S NEXT TO BE IRRITATING?!
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change the constitution lah you anti social freak,Originally posted by cooleo:F**k off la! Go and start your own thread and KPKB.
(WHO'S NEXT TO BE IRRITATING?! ) -
People.. Pls respect and believe yourselves as I would respect you all as ADULTS...
As I've said, if you want to, just make your points.. Just let her vent out her stories.. Afterall, isn't that what AA is for..?
Don't wish to take unnecessary actions especially when you all are adults...?
THANK YOU.
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Originally posted by kiekie:updated info
1st=1995 Nov to 1997 Nov= 2yr
2nd=1998 Jan to 1998 Nov= 10mth
3rd=1999 Jan to 1999 Sept =8mth
4th=1999 Sept to 2000 Dec =1yr 5mth
5th=2001 CNY to 2001 April= 3mth
6th=2001 april to 2001 sept= 5mth
7th= 2001 sept to now 2004 =3yr+
sry some errors so i had recalculated.
Technically speaking, it seemed that you are not in need of an advice (for you have a decent and much more fulfilling present currently), more of being interested in a third party analysizing your past.
P.S: People please chill and practice /me ignore; there is no point with this exchange of words over the internet. Be a little more tolerent or least for the sake of other denizens living in here.
*** If you have truely thought hard enough, you wouldn't be walking one huge tormenting circle to get to what you ought to go eventually in Love. Partially, it has to do with haste and the lack of wisdom to decipher what you really want. You got yourself all sort of man, whom you ultimately end up in much misery and pain with them. Leaving out the first relationship (Our relationship is usually much different from the rest. Not merely because its our FIRST, rather, its due to the astrological and karmic notion of our First Love. Simply term: Being a 'greenhorn' in Love, our freewill against Love is usually the weakest in our First Love. We are able project stronger freewill and choice in our future partner or potential, but is usually no in our first)
Your second is an afflicted relationship. You know it yourself.
Your third is also an afflicted relationship - with you demonstrating free will and mirror the affliction to him. In the process, you created a period of pain and lesson for him.
Your fourth is also an afflicted relationship - with him demonstrating free will against you and created the period of pain & lesson for you.
After that, your past returns and you goes back repeating lessons again.
Your first, being karmic in nature, returns and leaves the EXACT similiar ways/reasons he left you before. (C|oUdiSm 6th Law of the Old World - Law of Mirror Ending)
Your 5th is a replica of your 2nd. Issue involving finance, his family and related thingy. And that is where your abortion took place as well.
your 6th is a replica of your 3th - with you getting involved with an man who cannot commit and you bring the karmic lesson into him (and more particularly his gf of 6 years) and his relationship. It was your choice to leave as well.
And now your 7th is another good relationship like your 4th.
*** I have seen people's relationship from zero fighters to as atrociously high as 30+ ex, but usually the core lessons don't differ much. It's how Love cosmic lesson wants to teach you based on our early childhood formation, psychological state, karma and astrological birthright.
To leap into a new relationship after every conclusion; doesn't it explain partially why you went through your cycle ONCE more? In this aspect you are so much like mine best friend; she has more past relationships than you, but that's not the point. The thing is that she NEEDS relationship because the emotional security is not there. Everytime when she is alone, her emotional mind would be screaming for dependancy: Woman in their first love loved their lovers, in all others, they loved love.
To make matter worst, she is one woman who can get almost any man she wanted. People flocked and she attracted negative man that brings negativity into her life.
You are in the same category.
P.S: We have the ability to create a fulfilling relationship, but before that could happen, the least we could do to minimize difficulty, is to avoid any hasty relationship decision that we regret in the future.
Cheers -
As we grow, we learn what powers we are capable of.
We dun abuse it, we tempered it with restriant, control and responsiblity.
Only then, will we really grow and mature.
Or else, you will be in for a karmic rollercoaster ride.
When will it stop? Only you yourself will know. -
just finished reading all 7 pages of this thread....
i have no idea how i should be saying stuff here...
first of all it's really daring of her to candidly share her bountiful life experience and i can see that there're some negative response which is hardly surprising considering the contents of it all....
it's her life she choose how to lead it... but really do hope that she'd not commit the same mistakes again.... there're enough mistakes to last her 3 lifetimes....
often enough when we see/hear something that's deemed unacceptable to ourselves we sort of have a prejudiced mindset but think for a moment if you're in her shoes,would you want ppl to call you names for what seemingly is destiny/fate?we're all entitled to our thoughts which can be pretty constructive when voiced out but when that thought is converted to name calling then i think it's a bit too extreme(there're nicer ways of putting nasty thoughts which equates to heavier impact )
that said i must admit that i have a pretty negative impression and one of my personal peeve is promiscuity.... i do not feel right that one should jump into bed just because they're "steady"... where have all the nice ol tradition gone to?i thought sex was supposed to be a sacred act commited only by husband and wife? ok bend it a little-with someone whom you feel that you're going to have a long future with,seriously serious(not neccessary spouse nowadays) i think throughout history and even now and i foresee much more so in future, sex is one of the most abused act. And author please do use protection,are you feeling guilty just becos we say so( your reaction seems kinda delayed/stunted) or for real? where's the once bitten,twice shy thingy? and please have sex with someone you know well enough,not just because he's your boyfriend then decide he's not the kind you like,dump him,hurt him have him chase you around(did you do tht to make yourself feel attractive),then you kill off unwanted kids just because you weren't even sure.
your relationships are like very shortlived but then again that's your business.... it may be interesting to read about your life 'chronicles' but the more i read the more i'm curious.... what really are your intentions of posting your 'life story' here? what advice do you need from ppl online when you don't even listen to ppl around you? our eyes are pretty vulnerable and gets blinded by lots of things, what actually blinds you when you start a new relationship? Lust?Love?
from how i see it you started this current relationship with your bf becos you felt indebted to him,he was there when you needed someone... but seriously if he hadn't helped you,yes he may still accept you but for your last abortion you fix it yourself.... would you have stayed so long with him?or would you have scouted for someone else 'because you think that you won't last long with him'?... think about it....
sorry if i sounded harsh in any way.... not my intention to make you feel uneasy but i'm just very curious to why are you telling us all these? just what are you trying to achieve? well i hope you'll retell your 'life experiences' to your offspring in hope they won't follow your footsteps... but really if you were to confide all these to your friends i have no idea what they'd think... .but then again that's me your group of friends may be... well... more liberal
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oh yeah forgot to add... when you're serious about a relationship you'll try to work out differences and try to make it work..... you don't just walk out of a relationship just because you feel he's not suitable for you or out of spite.... you're not even trying so how serious can it be?
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I believe in fair arguments. This is a forum for discussions and arguements, am I right? If there is any action to be taken it should be against people who are making use of foul language here and who are not contributing to the arguement.Originally posted by Devil1976:People.. Pls respect and believe yourselves as I would respect you all as ADULTS...
As I've said, if you want to, just make your points.. Just let her vent out her stories.. Afterall, isn't that what AA is for..?
Don't wish to take unnecessary actions especially when you all are adults...?
THANK YOU.
Use soft words and hard arguments-- Unknown -
This is a free forum so anyone can give his own views and arguements. You wanted to let go here and so did you, she wants to argue against you and as such she has the right to.Originally posted by kiekie:hi can u give me some advice? its abt my true life stories. i suppose u had read abt them...
i only meant to type them out to let go my past, not to made myself a publicity, to gain symphathy. really.
and i duno how to stop foxwalk............................. haiz, u should noe wat i mean. I wana make peace, but she refused and kept pm me. i realy dun want her to disturb my life now...........its so annoying.
i told myself umpteen times not to bother abt her postings against me, but i juz cudn't refrain myself from posting back.
i m so vexed.....................
sry and thanks for ur time.
Some people symphathised with you from what you said and some don't. She is one of the latter.
I believe that if you had made a good arguement against her then you could have defended yourself, but that was not the case. And anyway this is not a war, its all fair arguements.
If you really don't want to read her posting then you should have the will to do that. You should learn from your lesson. If you don't want to read her posting but still go back and read, I would believe that what has happened to you in you 8 relationships will happen again. You are definitely not a strong willed person and if you don't seriously reflect on yourself you will perish.
May be you should begin to mean what you say. You said that you welcome negative remarks and she granted you this wish. You say that people are swearing at you but you do the same. You tell people not to pm you and to discuss in the forum but you pm other people.
If you can't get a grip by yourself I seriously think that you should get professional advice. I don't think that people in this forum can counsel you. Those who symphathise only tell you not to worry and to move on, but can you really do that?
There are many girls out there who are really in a terrible state. They got pregnant and lost the support of their boyfriends and their families. They drop out of school at an early age and have to raise a child when they themselves have not grown out of childhood.
There are children out there who are being abused daily, both sexually, physically and mentally by their own parents. There are old folks out there who have to sell tissue paper to be able to survive. There is always someone who is suffering more than the other.
I hope that this is of help.
Always aim at complete harmony of thought and word and deed.
Always aim at purifying your thoughts and everything will be well.
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ya its true tat i pm some of u here seeking for advices on how to stop this matter. As in i really hope tat it wud stop...............so i chose method 1 which pysche had advised; tat is to keep quiet and ignore her posts, gradually she will get tired and stop. And this is my 7th relationship not 8th.
thx really esp to dos who replied me with great advices. i mean they r of great help not onli for now but for life. i believe i got to stop posting in my thread..it has being quite a headache for a while... and thanks for ur advices.
in fact i posted them to let them off my chest not to seek advices. i mean how cud a person dare to tell another person in face abt such things tat happened in her life? of cuz i dun dare, i felt ashamed. Hence, i tot writing down in a forum wud be a better form of way to express myself..so i did. cuz u dun know me in person.
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Yeah.Originally posted by kiekie:ya its true tat i pm some of u here seeking for advices on how to stop this matter. As in i really hope tat it wud stop...............so i chose method 1 which pysche had advised; tat is to keep quiet and ignore her posts, gradually she will get tired and stop.
thx really esp to dos who replied me with great advices. i mean they r of great help not onli for now but for life. i believe i got to stop posting in my thread..it has being quite a headache for a while... and thanks for ur advices.
in fact i posted them to let them off my chest not to seek advices. i mean how cud a person dare to tell another person in face abt such things tat happened in her life? of cuz i dun dare, i felt ashamed. Hence, i tot writing down in a forum wud be a better form of way to express myself..so i did. cuz u dun know me in person.
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Originally posted by Shake_Spear:I believe in fair arguments. This is a forum for discussions and arguements, am I right? If there is any action to be taken it should be against people who are making use of foul language here and who are not contributing to the arguement.
Use soft words and hard arguments-- Unknown -
kiekie,
i thot it's really courageous of u to post your story here. ignore those who wanna flame u! some ppl jus wanna create trouble. dun let them affect u!
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great story. even tho my heart goes out to you (for meeting all the sickening guys)..
i still find fox's comments hilarious! XD sarcasm makes me high. sorry.