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i had been with a babay christian before, and she once read a story book which she acquire from her christian friends about chrisitian marrying a christian. It's a prefer union compare to marrying a non chrisitian. God is worry that if u marry a non christian , he/she MIGHT lead you away from GOD.Originally posted by SnowFlag:hmm....can show some proof?
might be her christian friends knows that we were dating and lent her the book. BTW, I slept with her before
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Haha, this remind me of a guy friend who told me he goes church to knowOriginally posted by pete98:When a person suppose to spend more time with god does it just means going to church to pray more often? Or does doing things while bearing in mind the teaching of god be enough. Since god is all powerful and in theory is present everywhere, wouldn't having him in your heart and being in any places means you are still spending time with him?
gals. Well, indeed he found a wife there. But whether he really has faith
in god only he himself will know. Personally, when you embrace god,
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halo Mr Doomz,
i hope you are not doom !! NOW !! whahaha ...
anyway, I don't think GOD forbids christian dating a non- christian.
But what I reckon is that, if you want to be marrying her, you may have to try your might at convicing her to become a christian as well.
To put some issues into perspective, so as to let you know I understand how you are feeling :
When I dated a chrisitian once before. Like you, she's a baby christian. I think that's what they called it. Can one of the christian confirm that?
Like you, she received GOD with an overzealous desire. Not to say that it's bad; i think anyone should be overzealous in rececving what they beileve to be true. so Plus 5 points for you.
My issue was much simplier than yur becasue when I was dating a christian, we didn't had sex. we were merely very intimate.
But Morality is your conflict with god now. The only difference between a human and dog is that a human can control his urges and desires when hormones run wild, a dog merely pump up the nearest bitch.
To control desires, you need to have a set of believes. And in the case of GOD, you need to believe in him. Saved human sex until after marriage, do not go for the forbidden fruit before you are declared man and wife before GOD.
NOW that's your problem !!!
I had been with chrisitan and i have been to their cell group, bible studies. What I can say is that " Oh boy, was I peaceful !!!. the feeling when surrounded by these group of people who shed unconditional love was great!"
Your issue is that both of you are no longer innocent, your GF wants something as natural as going to the toliet. She wanted sex. For god's sake, think about how you would react when YOU wanted sex and she tells you that Mommy forbids it!!
What would you have thought during those times?
1)She doesn't love you enough to give herself to you
2)mommy's girl?
3) I am not your No.1
I want sex....sex!! ..sex!! ..sex !!
Step into her shoes if she refues to give in to you before all these christian issue came. Do u want to spite her? Do you want to tell her that she doesn't love you. DO YOU .... want to use reverse psychology on her? ..... like she's using it on you now?
But think about .... do you still love her, when you say all those things, inspite of every mean things you said to her just to have a little touch with her?
I think you do....because you didn't go look for another girl.... and I bet she didn't look for other guys as well. And that makes it enough reason to stay with her.
Look ... God tempt you with forgiveness and eternity. Your GF is tempting your with love and sexual gratification.
You wanted both ... don't you?
The pleasures of your GF's soft touch and the sincerity of god's promise.
Guess what?
you can have both ..... oblige to your gf's request, is different from soliciting. Not doing so, is depriving her of her usual needs ..... from YOU ..... and only you...i believe....don't give that privilage away when u worked so hard for it in the past.....remember how you woo her?
As for GOD, what he wants is a sincere heart that pours out to him. Seek him, pray to him, ..... ask him .... for forgiveness... if he so see that sex is a sin.....
If you ask him for forgivess with a sincere heart, ........................
I think he may just be move and forgive you ........
And who says that you can't have the pie and eat it too.....
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haha. how u know sex is the issue sia...
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10 min ago i have a very big quarrel with her
She say my faith is not strong now so i will still choose her over a christian(righteousness)but when my faith get stronger,i won't feel sad when she initiate a break up...cos god will find someone better than me(she cried while saying those)
She want me to ignore the don'ts
-do not give 10% of my salary to church(due to wedding fund)
-do not reject her when she ask for xxx(she dun want god to affect her private lifestyle)
-do not believe the righteousness n the unrighteousness
-must spend time with her when she is free,including cell group meeting and sunday service(cos i spend too much time with god)
I request for only friday cell group n sunday service she reply"SO IN THE END U STILL CHOOSE GOD OVER ME???OUR 4 YRS RELATIONSHIP CAN'T EVEN COMPARE TO UR 7 WEEKS OF THE TIME SPEND WITH THE GOD????"
Guys and gals....the above are not the main point,i try putting myself at her shoe...and tis is wat i get
-once his faith turn strong...i will have nothing,i will lose everything
-I was the person he love most,yet he give up on me and turn to god
-I dun mean being in 1st position,i juz wanna let him feel tat i am important(will he come back immediately if there is any church preach while i sick or dying?since his faith becoming stonger day by day)
She can sense tat my faith is very strong....every sentence i talk to her,comes frm the bible,even i notice it...i dun know y
Final conclusion...she only accept me to go for sunday service and not cell group meeting
I did promise her never to break her heart,our love is strong,we can withstand all rumours,3rd party and being faithful to each other
and now i already break my promise by breaking her heart...making her cry -
not xin li zuo yong but faith.Originally posted by FireIce:xin li zuo yong
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Doom. I think i understand your problem. Someone i respect has once told me about this.
Lets start on a different note. Do you know why Chinese parents so strongly forbid their children from becoming a christian? They are afraid that they will lose their children. When they see their children getting more engaged to christian activities and spend less time at home, they get jealous, and they don't understand.
The keyword is understanding. Your girlfriend doesn't see God as a religion. She sees God as another girl, who's taking up your time, and she's jealous.
Give her some time, and slowly bring her over. Tell her to come to church with you, with an open heart. And slowly, she'll understand.
Just remember, there are many things in life that you may have to wait for a long time. This is one of them. But once you do it, well, to quote another forumer, You can have both the pie, and eat it. -
dun be surprised that the Bible says Christ is the Bridegroom of His church, which is the Bride.Originally posted by FireIce:u marrying her or marrying god? -
in the faith. there is no fence-sitting.Originally posted by FireIce:wat he needs is a sensible POV and advice from ppl on the fence......
not a biased opinion from ppl in the same league...... -
then it means that u dun hv the proofOriginally posted by _Aaron_:Well, everyone has told me that.
I'm no pastor... but you post in Christian forum confirm can get the phrase~
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Actually can some 1 pls tell me which part of a bible say you must donate 10% of salary to church? And btw I can't blame her for the 'righteousness n the unrighteousness' part cos it sound too much like extremist thinking. You sound like those terrorist o the Nazis if you overstress such things.
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hey dumb ( hehehe )Originally posted by dumbdumb!:haha. how u know sex is the issue sia... I think we can infer very explicity that SEX is one of the manay issues here ... what's more, Doomz just verbose it very as ***.
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i suggest the discussions be done in 'Eternal Hope'
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you don't have too ... when I went church with this ex of mine, I never give ... or I did, but that's because of peep pressure ...kekeke ....Originally posted by pete98:Actually can some 1 pls tell me which part of a bible say you must donate 10% of salary to church? And btw I can't blame her for the 'righteousness n the unrighteousness' part cos it sound too much like extremist thinking. You sound like those terrorist o the Nazis if you overstress such things.
but when you are there and hearing other telling you that, " we are short of money"....or " we wanted to do this but we don't have enough funds.."
That's where the 10% rule comes in for individual .... boy I am gald that was his limits
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my dear doomz,Originally posted by doomz:10 min ago i have a very big quarrel with her
She say my faith is not strong now so i will still choose her over a christian(righteousness)but when my faith get stronger,i won't feel sad when she initiate a break up...cos god will find someone better than me(she cried while saying those)
She want me to ignore the don'ts
-do not give 10% of my salary to church(due to wedding fund)
-do not reject her when she ask for xxx(she dun want god to affect her private lifestyle)
-do not believe the righteousness n the unrighteousness
-must spend time with her when she is free,including cell group meeting and sunday service(cos i spend too much time with god)
I request for only friday cell group n sunday service she reply"SO IN THE END U STILL CHOOSE GOD OVER ME???OUR 4 YRS RELATIONSHIP CAN'T EVEN COMPARE TO UR 7 WEEKS OF THE TIME SPEND WITH THE GOD????"
Guys and gals....the above are not the main point,i try putting myself at her shoe...and tis is wat i get
-once his faith turn strong...i will have nothing,i will lose everything
-I was the person he love most,yet he give up on me and turn to god
-I dun mean being in 1st position,i juz wanna let him feel tat i am important(will he come back immediately if there is any church preach while i sick or dying?since his faith becoming stonger day by day)
She can sense tat my faith is very strong....every sentence i talk to her,comes frm the bible,even i notice it...i dun know y
Final conclusion...she only accept me to go for sunday service and not cell group meeting
I did promise her never to break her heart,our love is strong,we can withstand all rumours,3rd party and being faithful to each other
and now i already break my promise by breaking her heart...making her cry
all these are just the beginning .... breaking hearts are part of a relationship, it's the mending of it that substantiate a relationship. -
ask that in eternal hope. cuz its kinda out of topicOriginally posted by pete98:Actually can some 1 pls tell me which part of a bible say you must donate 10% of salary to church? And btw I can't blame her for the 'righteousness n the unrighteousness' part cos it sound too much like extremist thinking. You sound like those terrorist o the Nazis if you overstress such things.
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if ever i am ask to choose between god and family, friends, galfren...i choose the latter...
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Tis explain y some christian donate 10% of their salary to churchOriginally posted by pete98:Actually can some 1 pls tell me which part of a bible say you must donate 10% of salary to church? And btw I can't blame her for the 'righteousness n the unrighteousness' part cos it sound too much like extremist thinking. You sound like those terrorist o the Nazis if you overstress such things.
http://www.surfinthespirit.com/charity/testing-promises.shtml -
in which phrase does it say?Originally posted by doomz:Tis explain y some christian donate 10% of their salary to church
http://www.surfinthespirit.com/charity/testing-promises.shtml -
bo lang? None of my questions are answered.
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sheesh. can u go post in eternal hope or smth? u're going out of topic.Originally posted by SnowFlag:in which phrase does it say? -
i am asking within the topic of this thread.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:sheesh. can u go post in eternal hope or smth? u're going out of topic.
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which either shows you can't read or you can't interpret content. what is the content?Originally posted by SnowFlag:i am asking within the topic of this thread. -
all the advices were given already.
I'll offer another question to think about.
>>>If she converts...then 4yrs r/s savaged and marriage on the way.
:::Good for you:::
>>>If she didn't and you gave in...You lost your faith but got a girl who loves you and is willing to be with you all your life(?)
:::You lose some you gain some:::
>>>If she didn't, you didn't give way too, you'll have your faith and God.
:::Your salvation and security:::
But she'll leave you...and possibly hates every single christian(Guys) she might come across in the future. Hate God himself....
She might feel bitter because 4yrs of relationship ended in anyway would tear her heart apart literally.
She couldn't have imagined how great God is in your life or those wonderful experience you had with God whenever you spent your time with Him.
All she knows is...God has taken you away from her. She has lost four yrs of effort building a r/s with you.
You've took a holistic approach in trying to convey the message.
She didn't accept it...which is naturally. Because she couldn't understand why her bf changed so much and have gone further and further away from her.
As said before...your spiritual POV couldn't make any sense to her...
You've become frustrated...she'll feel likewise.
My experience i've seen...you're a Fire-Brand.
But from your post. It seems like you're more concerned over your own security and comfort zone...
My gut feel tells me.
The fact is...it's the 4yrs and effort put in the r/s that's still holding you back.
The LOVE you have for her is questionable.
This might be offensive. But if i'm correct...pls take a step back and consider.
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My take on your spiritual walk...give yourself eight months to two years. And look back at those time when you're a baby Christian.
You'll find yourself mellowed down alot.
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about the 10% thing... dunno if the bible said it anot.. but wat i noe is everyone noes about it... christian too.. true u can dun give or less than 10%
but that somehow has become a gauge..