In Love With A Prositute
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Originally posted by Devil1976:Personally I think it's not only the society thing you're facing...
You're somehow confused over things... And possibly 'blind'... I know some of them can be pityful... But how many can you save...
If you're REALLY SURE about what you FEEL for her and know how LONG and DEEP it would last... I'll say GO FOR IT...?
cool statement~ 
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but thread starter, i guess this is right too. but kindly take into consideration any consquences before plunging in the deep end..
cheers~ -
Originally posted by curiousOrange:
How true is this story? Is it genuinue? Orange, I'm sorry if I got u emotional. U noe,sometimes i'm just too emotional. I apprenciate your effort to bring me back to the correct path. But somehow, the feelings is there?
Killer,
Now you got me emotionally involved as well. IÂ’m not questioning how strong you feel for this girl. You realized there is risk involved in pursuing this relationship but have you really assessed how HIGH is the risk?
ListenÂ…IÂ’m a lousy story teller but you need to listen to this story.
At least, take it as I'm telling you to make myself feel better. Read it and please relate it to your case.
X broke up with his girlfriend 3 years ago. They almost got married. But a week before the ROM, this girl chickened out on him and ran away with another guy. This girl hurt him so bad that he vows never to be serious about women again. He started to frequent the houses in GL whenever he needed companionship.
He told his friends, “At least the girls there are more honest than a lot of girls out there. They just want your money but they are honest about it. You pay and get something in return…fair deal.”
Then he met a Thai girl in one of the houses. This working girl (WG) frenched him the way a working gal usually will not. So he got confused again…”If I’m just a customer to her, why would she kiss me like that.” He was curious, he went to the WG’s house a few more times, they talked, they transacted. WG told him her story.
WGÂ’s father is a massive gambler. Right now, WG is trying to pay off the debts. WG told him her dream to go back to school again, how she always dreams of having a happy family of her own. WG showed him her family photo and said that she donÂ’t hate her father for what he has done. WG also said that she is returning to Thailand very soon. Her fatherÂ’s debts are almost fully cleared.
X started to spend a lot of time with the girl. Before he knew, he was in love again. He bought a necklace for her on her last nite. WG told him that he shouldnÂ’t spend that kind of money on her. But WG admitted that she has strong feelings as well.
X asked her what she wants as a parting gift. WG told him that all she wantsÂ…is a photo to remember him by.
At that moment of time, X melted. He decided to take the risk. He told his friends, “I will never find someone like her again…if all of you are true friends, don’t stop me from getting happiness.” His friends gave him their blessings and WG made plans to go to Thailand together. They intended to get married there and settle down.
1 year later, X came back to Singapore.
He was in a sorry state.
A big hole in his pocket.
Emotionally wrecked.
He simply told his friends, “I nearly got myself killed.”
I later found out that WG already has a husband in Thailand and the girl is following what the husband suggested to lure X into Thailand so that they work on their plan. I didnÂ’t ask X for the details. IÂ’m too ashamed to ask because I failed him as a friend, I should have done more to help him.
[b]Killer,
You see why IÂ’m telling you not to listen to what she says at face value? They are programmed to say the things you want to hear. ItÂ’s almost mechanical because they do it everyday to any men.
A smart man learns from other peopleÂ’s experience and avoids making the same mistake.
A smart man takes calculated risks in life. But when the stakes are too high and the odds are against him. He bails himself out of the situation before he gets too emotionally involved.
BE THE SMART MAN, KILLER.
There is an important reason why people called it a commercial sex industry.
Turn back before it is too late.
Think about it.
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Of cos, I am afraid of being cheated. After reading your story,somehow it struck me. I can relate to your story becos i noe how it will feel.
U noe,I am willingly to go all out to learn Thai... So that I can noe how she feels... Seriously, I dun feel she is lying... She has a sad case... And I think she dun treat me like her usual customers. I spend most of the time talking to her.
The feelings is getting very strong... and now u got me all confused... Can anyone tell me what to do?
The more I feel for her, the more I hate my ex... I feel that my ex is the biggest liar of all time. -
I feel that you should give up....every now n then, you're relating this Thai to your ex-gf....be fair to all, including yourself...Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:How true is this story? Is it genuinue? Orange, I'm sorry if I got u emotional. U noe,sometimes i'm just too emotional. I apprenciate your effort to bring me back to the correct path. But somehow, the feelings is there?
Of cos, I am afraid of being cheated. After reading your story,somehow it struck me. I can relate to your story becos i noe how it will feel.
U noe,I am willingly to go all out to learn Thai... So that I can noe how she feels... Seriously, I dun feel she is lying... She has a sad case... And I think she dun treat me like her usual customers. I spend most of the time talking to her.
The feelings is getting very strong... and now u got me all confused... Can anyone tell me what to do?
The more I feel for her, the more I hate my ex... I feel that my ex is the biggest liar of all time.
Also, seriously you dun feel she's lying, that's definetely for sure, becoz otherwise you won't even feel so...
How many kinda ppl have you encountered n experienced with before? And exactly how many people has that Thai experienced before?
They've seen all kinds of guys and definetely know how to play with a guy's feelings...all sorts of things they can do to manipulate guys, like yourself.
You certainly have lots more to see n learn... -
Killer,
What you need is closure.
You ex treated you so badly that you hated her.
You can debate to death in front of me but IÂ’m sure the following are your thoughts:
“If I had done some things differently to my ex, maybe the outcome will be different. Maybe we will be living happily ever after! If only that’s the case…if only…”
But you know she will never come back to you.
It is a fantasy.
Now you met this Thai girl who looks a lot like your ex. You start to get emotional all over again! She gives you hope the first time you saw her!
And you donÂ’t even need to understand her language, as long as she can give you what you have been looking forÂ…CLOSURE!
Why?
Because you are secretly excited that this little fantasy of yours can finally come true.
You can shower that Thai girl with all your love and she will love you in return. This mutual love is something that your ex cannot give you and you long for it.
GET OVER THAT EX OR SHE WILL SCREW YOUR LIFE UP ONE MORE TIME
No, you have not gotten over your ex AT ALL. You hated her because you felt that you needed closure.
You are substituting your ex with that Thai girl without even realizing it.
You think you have found a new direction in life. You are so wrong. The fact is, you are not moving on at allÂ…you are still at the same spot!
Let me put this in a plain and simple wayÂ…look at what you wrote here :
I tell you what will happen if your ex sees what you wrote there.Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:The more I feel for her, the more I hate my ex... I feel that my ex is the biggest liar of all time.
She will forward what you wrote to all her colleagues.
Her colleagues will forward that to all their friends.
Then together they will all laugh long and hard at YOU.
You Ex:” Ewwww….thank god I didn’t choose him. I wasn’t so sure at first but now after seeing this, I know I’m right to dump him. He IS a loser!”
Yes, she has already moved on. She has no more feelings at all. All your dreams about spending your life with her IS GONE.
Wake up Killer.
The only way to make a rational decision about you and that Thai girlÂ…is to first get over your ex.
That hatred you have for her means you still feel something.
Think about it.
IÂ’m sorry if IÂ’m harsh in what I wroteÂ…I meant well. -
Mate...one more thing.
I'm not saying you are a loser...I'm trying to make you see what I'm driving at...
The best form of revenge is to get over her and stop hating her. You are harming yourself to get even. You will be a loser in her eyes and proving that she is right to dump you. -
Why r u so kind to me CuriousOrange? I really apprenciate your effort...
I am thinking tru what u r trying to bring across.
Maybe I am a loser after all...
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It's life that you've to look forward for...not circling around....Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:Why r u so kind to me CuriousOrange? I really apprenciate your effort...
I am thinking tru what u r trying to bring across.
Maybe I am a loser after all... -
Maybe the Thai gal is giving me illusions...
No sex is involved... I just spend the time talking wif her... Even she felt surprise what am I doing here for...
CuriousOrange: I get what u r trying to drive. Maybe I should prove something to my ex... -
TRUE LOVE STRIVES THROUGH DUST....Originally posted by binZ:[/color] cool statement~ ~
but thread starter, i guess this is right too. but kindly take into consideration any consquences before plunging in the deep end..
cheers~
TRUE LESSONS bites on IT... -
why you love hookerOriginally posted by The_Legend_Killer:I think I am falling in love with a prositute. She is a Thai and she resembles my ex-gf.
Somehow, I dun go there for sex but I just went there to see her.
I spend the time talking to her.
Help me.
I am confuse. -
u are only a LOSER if u keep thinking u are one.Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:Why r u so kind to me CuriousOrange? I really apprenciate your effort...
I am thinking tru what u r trying to bring across.
Maybe I am a loser after all... 
if u meet a boulder in ur path, dig through it, skirt around it. NO ONE in this world will help u do anything if u dun bother to help urself first. 
Think like a WINNER! then u are a WINNER!
Its all in the mind! No one starts anything with the intention to fail! cheer up!
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Originally posted by Devil1976:
chime.. dun understand???
TRUE LOVE STRIVES THROUGH DUST....
TRUE LESSONS [b]bites on IT...[/b]
i dun think my level of thinking up to urs yet~ 5 yrs of eating more rice~ 
just joking de lah~ hope u wont take it to heart.
But what does this means?
true lessons bites on what? dust or lube? explan? -
Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:I think I am falling in love with a prositute. She is a Thai and she resembles my ex-gf.
Somehow, I dun go there for sex but I just went there to see her.
I spend the time talking to her.
Help me.
I am confuse.
Orange speaks my mind.
Remember - it's not even about love because your statement begin with '...she resemble my ex-gf'. Technically, you are feeding on something of a past - an emotional bondage.
What you need is closure.
You ex treated you so badly that you hated her.
You can debate to death in front of me but IÂ’m sure the following are your thoughts:
“If I had done some things differently to my ex, maybe the outcome will be different. Maybe we will be living happily ever after! If only that’s the case…if only…”
But you know she will never come back to you.
It is a fantasy.
Now you met this Thai girl who looks a lot like your ex. You start to get emotional all over again! She gives you hope the first time you saw her!
And you donÂ’t even need to understand her language, as long as she can give you what you have been looking forÂ…CLOSURE!
Why?
Because you are secretly excited that this little fantasy of yours can finally come true.
You can shower that Thai girl with all your love and she will love you in return. This mutual love is something that your ex cannot give you and you long for it.
GET OVER THAT EX OR SHE WILL SCREW YOUR LIFE UP ONE MORE TIME
No, you have not gotten over your ex AT ALL. You hated her because you felt that you needed closure.
You are substituting your ex with that Thai girl without even realizing it.
You think you have found a new direction in life. You are so wrong. The fact is, you are not moving on at allÂ…you are still at the same spot! This critical part of orange's essay is an example, in written form, of a dimension in a karmic relationship. You can continue to delude yourself by justifying your behaviour through blind feelings and you can also prepare yourself to be landed in a pathetic state.
yunhaier personally knows a prostitute (as a friend) and lemme tell you that industry is blacker than coal. Don't ask me how I know her; it's very much about fate and ji yuan qiao he (And yes, no transaction or whatever sh!t.. knew as a friend, like all other friends in my life) When this business trade becomes an unprofessional dealing... you are in for some trouble.
I recall an old law in CloUdiSm (Boundary Phasing), which talks about how people change their stance with time. Originally, this law speaks of a party, having terrible partner, constantly rephrasing his/her principles, level of tolerance and 'land mines' just to compromise psychologically, as by doing so, it could sustain the person emotionally balanced.
I have a best friend, who got out of a lousy relationship, and decides to flirt for a period of time - a common emotional mechanism often used to protect oneself. In name of flirt, she enters into a relationship with a married man, and ended up falling in love with him. Rephrasing to justify decision.
And in your case, you are the same: attempting to make a desired dish, using wrongly bought ingredients... to make this quickie session MORE than just a 'professional' paid service and bounded by karmic bondage. You may not have sex with her, but what is your original desire when you step into GL looking for girls? And if you are not there for paid-sex, then what are your dealings there?
Don't justify blindly and wholly based yourself on the context of Love. It was never for her case, even if it was for you. You previously made screwed-up decision; don't repeat history.
Cheers -
Originally posted by Yunhaier:
I really need to clarify that my original desire to go there was not for sex. I haf my dignity. [b]Rephrasing to justify decision.
And in your case, you are the same: attempting to make a desired dish, using wrongly bought ingredients... to make this quickie session MORE than just a 'professional' paid service and bounded by karmic bondage. You may not have sex with her, but what is your original desire when you step into GL looking for girls? And if you are not there for paid-sex, then what are your dealings there?
Don't justify blindly and wholly based yourself on the context of Love. It was never for her case, even if it was for you. You previously made screwed-up decision; don't repeat history.
Cheers [/b]
Yunhaier, like u, it was fate. I was there wif my friends for dinner when one of them wants to go for a quickie. Since some of us are curious over such commerical sex trade, we decided to accompany him. We waited inside while my friend went for the quickie.
I was still feeling very down at that time. I was still thinking abt my ex. Somehow that THAI gal caught my eyes. Even my friends also finds her resembles my ex.
Many flashbacks and somehow I dunno why, I ask for the services of that Thai gal. My friends were shock. I ensure them that I really want to talk to her.
Oh pls, nothing happens inside. I felt so comfortable talking to her even though there was a communication barrier. I felt the chemistry. Even her smell resembles my ex. I told her abt my cuurent situation and she offer some comfort.
I even showed her my ex's photo and she was shock too. I cannot believe it too. How come they look so alike? Definitely not an illusions.
Now, I am really very very confused. I dunno what should I do now? -
You may have already heard this.
A prostitute is a substitute -- it is the nature of the job -- but never confuse the substitute for the real thing. Your life is not a "Pretty Woman" movie that ends with the proposal.
Folks here could give you all the sincere advice they've got, but if your heart is already set -- which seems to be the case -- nothing more they say would ever do any good.
One may be wrong, but your replies seemed to indicate a certain degree of obliviousness to much of the advice given so far. Tell us: Are you asking for advice on which decision to make, or for reassurance and support in a decision you've already made beforehand?
Well, if that be true, only you can answer the be-all and end-all question:
"Is the juice worth the squeeze?"
Put aside morals, chemistry, fate and all that mumbo-jumbo. Your future life is going to be shaped by the consequences of your present actions. Good luck. -
Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:I really need to clarify that my original desire to go there was not for sex. I haf my dignity.
Yunhaier, like u, it was fate. I was there wif my friends for dinner when one of them wants to go for a quickie. Since some of us are curious over such commerical sex trade, we decided to accompany him. We waited inside while my friend went for the quickie.
I was still feeling very down at that time. I was still thinking abt my ex. Somehow that THAI gal caught my eyes. Even my friends also finds her resembles my ex.
Many flashbacks and somehow I dunno why, I ask for the services of that Thai gal. My friends were shock. I ensure them that I really want to talk to her.
Oh pls, nothing happens inside. I felt so comfortable talking to her even though there was a communication barrier. I felt the chemistry. Even her smell resembles my ex. I told her abt my cuurent situation and she offer some comfort.
I even showed her my ex's photo and she was shock too. I cannot believe it too. How come they look so alike? Definitely not an illusions.
Now, I am really very very confused. I dunno what should I do now? You see, you approached her BASED on the fact that she looked like your ex. It has nothing to do with her, but the reason that sparks the initiative to make that decision is WHOLLY based on the fact that their physical appearance is similar, which is automatically triggered by unresolved issues in your previous relationship because in the first place, if that condition wasn't there, that initiative wouldn't have taken place AND this wouldn't happen.
My situation was different because I didn't approach a prostitute and became friends with her - it was a friend's friend and I uncovered her real identity because my friend needed a favour from me and had to tell me the truth. Anyway, in simple, that scenario was a complication from the start. And the conclusion was equally as bad, although not as jialat as the scenario posted by Orange.
You got to realise that whether you patron her as a customer has absolutely nothing to do with your confusion - this confusion derive from the root of the reason WHY you started this delusion.
It wasn't meant to be anything right from the start. Don't make a desired dish out of wrong ingredients. Your only redemption is to cease this delusion, heal your old wounds and exit this karmic cycle. I would gladly take a brief look at your birth chart, with my limited ability, to gauge YOUR decision if you are, strongly, determine to pursue this karmic love.
I would need your following information:
I) Birthday
II) Time born (as stated in Birth Certificate)
III) Place born (Are you a Singaporean? Born in KK hospital?)
P.S: But seriously, I doubt I would have a second opinion of what I had just said. Everything stands firm, I am quite sure astrology will reinforce my own standing... and that of Orange.
Cheers -
I am no sure whether to pursue the Thai gal.Originally posted by Tuatau:You may have already heard this.
A prostitute is a substitute -- it is the nature of the job -- but never confuse the substitute for the real thing. Your life is not a "Pretty Woman" movie that ends with the proposal.
One may be wrong, but your replies seemed to indicate a certain degree of obliviousness to much of the advice given so far. Tell us: Are you asking for advice on which decision to make, or for reassurance and support in a decision you've already made beforehand?
Well, if that be true, only you can answer the be-all and end-all question:
True it may seems like she is a subsititute, but then I am not sure. I am not sure if she is interested in me. It is still at an initial stage.
Like u say, maybe I should leave when the hurt is not there yet.
But some people feel that I should go where my heart is telling me too. -
From what i see here, u are not an emotionally very strong guy.Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:I am no sure whether to pursue the Thai gal.
True it may seems like she is a subsititute, but then I am not sure. I am not sure if she is interested in me. It is still at an initial stage.
Like u say, maybe I should leave when the hurt is not there yet.
But some people feel that I should go where my heart is telling me too.
i dun think u know anything much about the thai girl, minus she look like ur ex.
And based on the circumstances etc, i strongly suggest u leave.
i like to based things on practical reasons as certain criterias need to be met before the emotions part come in.
u can say u love the girl till death. but fact is when all the social stigma comes to u, ur family, everything around u, can u take it?
not to mention the girl's problem etc.
tats why i keep saying, u need to consider everything. following ur heart in this is not something i will encourage anyone.
But.. comes to it.. its ur life, its ur decision.
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you have a point there dude.
I feel the chemisty is there. I am not taking her as a subsitiute. I feel character wise, she is better than my ex although she is into this industry.
But u see, sometimes,not many people are as fortunate like us. U look at some of the local gals, so spoiled and pampered. Taking things for granted.
For prositiutes, they do haf their integrity. Ask yourself, who likes to be screwed in the ass. Look at Annabel Chong. Look at her feat. What drives her into doing the feat. Everyone noes it. I thinking I am falling for her but yet I dunno whether it is socially acceptable. -
look at this reply of yours.Originally posted by The_Legend_Killer:I really need to clarify that my original desire to go there was not for sex. I haf my dignity.
Yunhaier, like u, it was fate. I was there wif my friends for dinner when one of them wants to go for a quickie. Since some of us are curious over such commerical sex trade, we decided to accompany him. We waited inside while my friend went for the quickie.
I was still feeling very down at that time. I was still thinking abt my ex. Somehow that THAI gal caught my eyes. Even my friends also finds her resembles my ex.
Many flashbacks and somehow I dunno why, I ask for the services of that Thai gal. My friends were shock. I ensure them that I really want to talk to her.
Oh pls, nothing happens inside. I felt so comfortable talking to her even though there was a communication barrier. I felt the chemistry. Even her smell resembles my ex. I told her abt my cuurent situation and she offer some comfort.
I even showed her my ex's photo and she was shock too. I cannot believe it too. How come they look so alike? Definitely not an illusions.
Now, I am really very very confused. I dunno what should I do now?
Count the times you have mentioned your ex and how you relate the Thai girl with her. -
why dont you just pay for the sex. that may bring you back to reality.
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Oh man...stop confusing the lad.Originally posted by unknown_member:you have a point there dude.
I know many of them have sad stories.
But you cannot jump into a relationship just because of compassion.
If that's the case, I would have collected about 5 million African concubines already.
Fact with all these sad stories is that...
Girls in the industry need a lot of money = Financial burden
And killer is thinking of taking up all the burdens without actually knowing the girl's background in detail.
Stake is too high....
killer....one rash move and it could be the final straw... especially what happened with that ex. -
Originally posted by unknown_member:
If the point is on Annabel Chong, one fails to see how a Singaporean porn star, who apparently "likes to be screwed in the ass" on video, could be admired for the so-called "feat" of opening herself up for screwing by 251 men, most of whom are unknown members from the public.
you have a point there dude.
To lay prone on a stage for 10 hours, to invite pleasure and pain in the birth canal (as well as other orifices) stretched wide by the entry of 251 members, so as to earn a name in the Hall of Shame for the rest of her life, is hardly a feat.
To carry a baby in the womb for 9 giddy months, to withstand excruciating pains in the birth canal during delivery, and to painstakingly bring up and care for the child for the rest of her life, now that is a feat truly worthy of admiration.
Some prostitutes may be forced by circumstances into the trade; porn stars are only in it for fun, fame and fortune. Do not confuse publicity stunts of the latter as desperate sacrifices made in exchange for bread and butter. -
bread and butter comes from hardwork - farmers working on the field. not thru easy route of being laid.
pls adjust your perspective. -
Everytime you see her u gotto pay ard $40 but you dun have to pay to see your ex!!! So wake up!!!