Am I very cannot make it?
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but Flav gets supermodels and Bill doesn't. Wealth is besides monetary terms I do believe.Originally posted by walesa:And therein explains the gulf in wealth between the duo!
LOL!
In fact, most successful people attain their achievements(be it wealth, stature or other forms of recognition) as a side-effect - just as it's fair to say Bill Gates did not found Microsoft exclusively with the aim of turning it into the world's richest company in terms of market capitalisation, neither did many Nobel laureates win their awards by starting out being obssessed with the coveted award rather than the research itself.
Yes I agree that successfule people do not set out with a single minded goal. Rather, I would think that successful people all know how to identify many short term goals and work towards those short term goals, and those short term goals themselves are essential for long term goals. -
In Singapore, yes, I don't think you need to change it. What I am trying to say is experience different lifestyles by living in other countries. It is a real eye opener. Not just vacationing; work, live there.Originally posted by HENG@:i think, if one is happy with one's current lifestyle, there is no justification to change that lifestyle.
This is something I do not see young people here in Sinagpore aiming for. I know many others who work in some foreign lands before they go home and settle down.
The other way is to get an understanding partner who lets you take extended leave from the relationship and venture out. Take sabbaticals from work and live elsewhere.
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I think I'd know that. I am living in another country, and I plan to work here as well. I don't plan to work here for awhile and then go home and settle down. If possible I'd rather settle down where I am.Originally posted by casino_king:In Singapore, yes, I don't think you need to change it. What I am trying to say is experience different lifestyles by living in other countries. It is a real eye opener. Not just vacationing; work, live there.
This is something I do not see young people here in Sinagpore aiming for. I know many others who work in some foreign lands before they go home and settle down.
The other way is to get an understanding partner who lets you take extended leave from the relationship and venture out. Take sabbaticals from work and live elsewhere.
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Bill probably doesn't want any - that's why he settled for Melinda!Originally posted by HENG@:but Flav gets supermodels and Bill doesn't. Wealth is besides monetary terms I do believe.
Yes I agree that successfule people do not set out with a single minded goal. Rather, I would think that successful people all know how to identify many short term goals and work towards those short term goals, and those short term goals themselves are essential for long term goals.
LOL! And it's probably Briatore's promiscuous lifestyle that Renault hasn't amassed the sort of fortunes accessible to Montezemolo or Ron Dennis! 
But that's besides the point.
Heng@ : Ich muss jetzt für mein Mittagessen gehen. Ich hole Sie ein.
übrigens, Sie sind eine Frau oder ein Mann? Ihre "signature" gleicht eine Frau, aber Sie sprechen wie ein Mann. 
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Flav's wealth not equal to that of Ron or Luca???Originally posted by walesa:Bill probably doesn't want any - that's why he settled for Melinda! LOL! And it's probably Briatore's promiscuous lifestyle that Renault hasn't amassed the sort of fortunes accessible to Montezemolo or Ron Dennis! But that's besides the point.
Heng@ : Ich muss jetzt für mein Mittagessen gehen. Ich hole Sie ein. übrigens, Sie sind eine Frau oder ein Mann? Ihre "signature" gleicht eine Frau, aber Sie sprechen wie ein Mann. Thats ridiculous. Personal wealth-wise, he's probably higher up the scale than them. I don't think his lifestyle has any impact on Renault. Renault employs him, he doesn't run Renault. He just runs their racing team. the team's budget is decided by the bean counters at Renault.
ich bin Fraulein.
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being successful at what u do?Originally posted by DriftingGuy:I like how a simple topic on whether I am cool got sidetracked into a debate on what is defined as a lifestyle for "success" -
Sure, you are already in another country, but then you should work in some other place before you go back to where you are at and settle down?Originally posted by HENG@:I think I'd know that. I am living in another country, and I plan to work here as well. I don't plan to work here for awhile and then go home and settle down. If possible I'd rather settle down where I am. -
when we deal with a country as big as UK, even remaining within the country's borders, u can still experience different sort of society and life.Originally posted by casino_king:Sure, you are already in another country, but then you should work in some other place before you go back to where you are at and settle down?
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Any guys like me around?
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Briatore isn't merely an employee of Renault even though Renault acquired Benetton- he effectively plays the same role as Ron Dennis at McLaren or Sir Frank Williams at Williams. The root of his wealth can be traced to his early days at Benetton - check this out : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briatore.Originally posted by HENG@:Flav's wealth not equal to that of Ron or Luca??? Thats ridiculous. Personal wealth-wise, he's probably higher up the scale than them. I don't think his lifestyle has any impact on Renault. Renault employs him, he doesn't run Renault. He just runs their racing team. the team's budget is decided by the bean counters at Renault.
ich bin Fraulein.
why does everyone think otherwise???
In terms of their F1 budget, however, Ferrari and McLaren are still miles ahead of everyone(although I believe Toyota are running them close).
Just a word of advice : "Fraulein" isn't a very polite term to address anyone in a German-speaking country - it doesn't exactly have the connotation of "Miss" in English, actually. -
no no when i mean he's employed by Renault, i mean Renault, the car company employs him to run Renault F1. His wealth is traced to his early days in benetton with the clothing business, before it entered F1.Originally posted by walesa:Briatore isn't merely an employee of Renault - he effectively plays the same role as Ron Dennis at McLaren or Sir Frank Williams at Williams. The root of his wealth can be traced to his early days at Benetton - check this out : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briatore.
In terms of their F1 budget, however, Ferrari and McLaren are still miles ahead of everyone(although I believe Toyota are running them close).
Just a word of advice : "Fraulein" isn't a very polite term to address anyone in a German-speaking country - it doesn't exactly have the connotation of "Miss" in English, actually. 
Actually in terms of budget in F1, Toyota BLOWS everyone away. last estimation of their budget had them almost over 100million over the next closest team's. Renault's budget is smaller because Renault F1's structured in a more efficient manner? Or maybe they operate more efficiently. In any case, their budget is of course proposed by various HODs and then the final sum is decided by Renault. I'd say they're making very good use of their dough though...
Na ja... meine Deutsch nicht sehr gut.
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I met many western eupropeans in asia. They are basically in Asia to soak in the different lifestyles and then go home. Is this typical young european behavior/aspiration or exceptional?Originally posted by casino_king:Sure, you are already in another country, but then you should work in some other place before you go back to where you are at and settle down?
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what if they went somewhere else to soak in different lifestyle, liked that lifestyle, and decided to settle there instead of going home? would that be exceptional or not?Originally posted by casino_king:I met many western eupropeans in asia. They are basically in Asia to soak in the different lifestyles and then go home. Is this typical young european behavior/aspiration or exceptional?
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Toyota had a grand 5-year plan when they first embarked on entering F1(I do not know if they've actually put that in place, especially given their less-than-promising - by the standards they'd set for themselves - achievements), but no one comes close to touching Ferrari/McLaren's budget which comes close to half a billion annually(have you got the figures for the other big players? I'd be keen to know their budgets.Originally posted by HENG@:no no when i mean he's employed by Renault, i mean Renault, the car company employs him to run Renault F1. His wealth is traced to his early days in benetton with the clothing business, before it entered F1.
Actually in terms of budget in F1, Toyota BLOWS everyone away. last estimation of their budget had them almost over 100million over the next closest team's. Renault's budget is smaller because Renault F1's structured in a more efficient manner? Or maybe they operate more efficiently. In any case, their budget is of course proposed by various HODs and then the final sum is decided by Renault. I'd say they're making very good use of their dough though...
Na ja... meine Deutsch nicht sehr gut. ). Prior to Toyota's entry, BAR had the third largest budget, although their results not commensurating with their ambitious goals resulted in them cutting back on their spending subsequently(started with the release of Jacques Villeneuve I believe).
Renault F1 operate on a budget similar to Benetton's and Benetton were never world beaters in fiscal terms even in their heyday when Schumacher took them to the back-to-back titles in '94 and '95 - in a nutshell, the success of Benetton and now Renault can very much be attributed to Briatore's eye for talent. Just as he made the bold decision of plucking an untested Schumacher from Jordan - in fact, right under Eddie Jordan's nose which explains the hardly-cordial relationship the pair shared when both were still in F1 - after just one race brought Benetton success of unprecendeted proportions, he has made the same decision with Alonso which has reaped handsome dividends yet again...
Right, saying that, I'm no fan of Schumacher who, in my mind, remains one of the most unscrupulous - albeit successful - characters in F1.
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Toyota has a budget of about 500 million. Trust me. Even Ferrari and McLaren can't touch them.Originally posted by walesa:Toyota had a grand 5-year plan when they first embarked on entering F1(I do not know if they've actually put that in place, especially given their less-than-promising - by the standards they'd set for themselves - achievements), but no one comes close to touching Ferrari/McLaren's budget which comes close to half a billion annually(have you got the figures for the other big players? I'd be keen to know their budgets. ). Prior to Toyota's entry, BAR had the third largest budget, although their results not commensurating with their ambitious goals resulted in them cutting back on their spending subsequently(started with the release of Jacques Villeneuve I believe).
Renault F1 operate on a budget similar to Benetton's and Benetton were never world beaters in fiscal terms even in their heyday when Schumacher took them to the back-to-back titles in '94 and '95 - in a nutshell, the success of Benetton and now Renault can very much be attributed to Briatore's eye for talent. Just as he made the bold decision of plucking an untested Schumacher from Jordan - in fact, right under Eddie Jordan's nose which explains the hardly-cordial relationship the pair shared when both were still in F1 - after just one race brought Benetton success of unprecendeted proportions, he has made the same decision with Alonso which has reaped handsome dividends yet again...
Right, saying that, I'm no fan of Schumacher who, in my mind, remains one of the most unscrupulous - albeit successful - characters in F1.
Last report by F1 Racing, based on financial reports filed at Companies House, and projected forward to offer a representative outlay:
2005 Budgets
Toyota: $499.05 mil
Ferrari: $432.98 mil
McLaren: $419.95 mil
BAR: $ 360.16 mil
BMW-Williams: $360.12 mil
Renault: $287.81 mil
Sauber: 161.32 mil
Red Bull: $139.22 mil
Jordan: $104.20 mil
Minardi: $50.31 mil
Toyota protested to the article run by F1 Racing, and said their figures were closer to Renault's about $300 mil. When this revised figure was put to a senior member of McLaren who's a personal friend of the journalist, the McLaren man actually giggled. The journalist also put the revised figure to another personal friend, a senior figure in Renault, and he got a "spare me please" look in response to the revised figures. another senior figure in a back of the grid team responded "bollocks" outright. -
Like I said, I'm not sure whether Toyota carried their proposed plan forward and I have read conflicting reports about their budget from various sources. Nevertheless, it's important to note even if Toyota's figures were true, it might not be a sustained effort in the long run(I'd liken it to Chelsea, for instance, where there's a massive spending spree in the short-term to get their house in order and then readjust their priorities and be fiscally more conservative in the long term once the short term interests are secured). Perhaps, a good example of the astronomical short-term spending concept would best be epitomised by BAR.Originally posted by HENG@:Toyota has a budget of about 500 million. Trust me. Even Ferrari and McLaren can't touch them.
Last report by F1 Racing, based on financial reports filed at Companies House, and projected forward to offer a representative outlay:
2005 Budgets
Toyota: $499.05 mil
Ferrari: $432.98 mil
McLaren: $419.95 mil
BAR: $ 360.16 mil
BMW-Williams: $360.12 mil
Renault: $287.81 mil
Sauber: 161.32 mil
Red Bull: $139.22 mil
Jordan: $104.20 mil
Minardi: $50.31 mil
Toyota protested to the article run by F1 Racing, and said their figures were closer to Renault's about $300 mil. When this revised figure was put to a senior member of McLaren who's a personal friend of the journalist, the McLaren man actually giggled. The journalist also put the revised figure to another personal friend, a senior figure in Renault, and he got a "spare me please" look in response to the revised figures. another senior figure in a back of the grid team responded "bollocks" outright.
On the other hand, Ferrari and McLaren have been known to spend vast fortunes like that for ages.
However, if those figures you gave are true, then it's clearly not just a case of Toyota having increased their spending, but McLaren and Ferrari have also trimmed theirs over the years.
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I trust F1 Racing immensely. over the years, their articles and rumors have been the most accurate.Originally posted by walesa:Like I said, I'm not sure whether Toyota carried their proposed plan forward and I have read conflicting reports about their budget from various sources. Nevertheless, it's important to note even if Toyota's figures were true, it might not be a sustained effort in the long run(I'd liken it to Chelsea, for instance, where there's a massive spending spree in the short-term to get their house in order and then readjust their priorities and be fiscally more conservative in the long term once the short term interests are secured). Perhaps, a good example of the astronomical short-term spending concept would best be epitomised by BAR.
On the other hand, Ferrari and McLaren have been known to spend vast fortunes like that for ages.
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LOL! I have become a skeptic ever since Mika Hakkinen's engine blew at Indianapolis in 2001 and further reinforced when those Scarlet criminals(in my book, anyway) got away with nothing more than a fine when Barrichello stopped within touching distance of the finish line at A1 for Schumacher to pass. Had that happened in any other sport, you'd have been looking at a substantial suspension(possibly for a life term) at the very least...Originally posted by HENG@:I trust F1 Racing immensely. over the years, their articles and rumors have been the most accurate.
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F1 Racing is a magazine.Originally posted by walesa:LOL! I have become a skeptic ever since Mika Hakkinen's engine blew at Indianapolis in 2001 and further reinforced when those Scarlet criminals(in my book, anyway) got away with nothing more than a fine when Barrichello stopped within touching distance of the finish line at A1 for Schumacher to pass. Had that happened in any other sport, you'd have been looking at a substantial suspension(possibly for a life term) at the very least...
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I know about that mag - it isn't cheap. But the thing is my interest in the sport sort of dwindled following Hakkinen's exit and the emergence of those Scarlet criminals.Originally posted by HENG@:F1 Racing is a magazine.
Anyways Schumi got his comeuppance last weekend. Still protesting his innocence tho. I always knew he a bit CMI.
Well, if I were to catalogue Schumi's history of criminal activities, I wouldn't even know where to start. What happened in Monaco is child's play if you compared that with the nonsense he pulled off in Jerez back in '97 when he rammed into Villeneuve in a desperate bid to ensure the latter didn't win the world title. Thankfully, the FIA had enough common sense to strip him off the title then...
Senna remains the greatest driver I've ever seen, but personally, Hakkinen's my personal favourite - there were times when he was simply exhilarating, like when he pulled the classical overtaking manoeuvre using Ricardo Zonta as a decoy at Spa back in 2000(that's still the greatest overtaking manoeuvre I've witnessed in F1). -
no? its only 3quid 95p... well its rare to see another mika fan these days. I thot i was the only one left. and yes i agree. Spa 2000 was the greatest overtaking move i've ever seen. I loved it!Originally posted by walesa:I know about that mag - it isn't cheap. But the thing is my interest in the sport sort of dwindled following Hakkinen's exit and the emergence of those Scarlet criminals.
Well, if I were to catalogue Schumi's history of criminal activities, I wouldn't even know where to start. What happened in Monaco is child's play if you compared that with the nonsense he pulled off in Jerez back in '97 when he rammed into Villeneuve in a desperate bid to ensure the latter didn't win the world title. Thankfully, the FIA had enough common sense to strip him off the title then...
Senna remains the greatest driver I've ever seen, but personally, Hakkinen's my personal favourite - there were times when he was simply exhilarating, like when he pulled the classic takeover using Ricardo Zonta as a decoy at Spa back in 2000(that's still the greatest overtaking manoeuvre I've witnessed in F1).
Schumi? hah. what he pulled off in 94 was childs play considering wad he did in macau in F3, in 88 or 89. wad did he do? u guessed it.... rammed mika.
and while he was doing touring cars, he once tried to kill derick warwick? or was it martin bell?
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What happened to this thread man...?
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It's almost SGD20 when I last checked? The prices of most imported magazines from the UK/US are so grossly inflated you could be forgiven for thinking they'd been flown in by a rocket.Originally posted by HENG@:no? its only 3quid 95p... well its rare to see another mika fan these days. I thot i was the only one left. and yes i agree. Spa 2000 was the greatest overtaking move i've ever seen. I loved it!
Schumi? hah. what he pulled off in 94 was childs play considering wad he did in macau in F3, in 88 or 89. wad did he do? u guessed it.... rammed mika.
and while he was doing touring cars, he once tried to kill derick warwick? or was it martin bell?
schumi is definately the sport's biggest scoundrels. At least, that's the case for the mags I buy.
About Schumi, but nothing compares - and surpasses - the desperate lunge he attempted on Villeneuve back in '97. Throw in the occasion, the prize at stake and the fact a two-time(then) world champion was that desperate to resort to such means, you get just about the perfect epitome of everything wrong with people who have scaled the highest pinnacles in their profession.
Even taking his unscrupulous demeanour aside, while he is no doubt a very consistent driver, I'm not one to live for mechanical, predictable drivers - that explains why I've never quite fancied the Piquets, Prosts and Schumachers and would gladly watch a Senna or Hakkinen at their best.