Lonely, Depressed, Suicide
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Relax everyone. I have stated in the beginning i never intended this to be a debate. Anyhow perhaps a detached observer might add:
Peace is easier found within, then to be told to be peaceful.
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So the TS feels that living is good but doesn't know why.
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You dun need a reason to feel good. Similarly, you dun need a reason to be anal, do you have a reason why you are anal?Originally posted by Eric Cartman:So the TS feels that living is good but doesn't know why. -
perhaps...the thread title doesnt fit what the thread starter posted.
what he has posted might probably work for people who are down and upset and are faced with certain set backs. but definitely not for the severely depressed and suicidal.
it IS true that for someone who is severely depressed and suicidal, this most probably will only make the person feel worse.
to the TS, thanks for the effort as im sure it has helped some who are upset.
however, perhaps next time you should do a little research before you post things regarding sensitive topics such as suicide...
because truth is, a suicidal person might have been very much triggered (in a negative manner) by what you have posted... -
Because the TS doesn't know what he is talking about. He was probably just being angsty since he was 7.Originally posted by sggirl07:You dun need a reason to feel good. Similarly, you dun need a reason to be anal, do you have a reason why you are anal?
I have been through both kinds of depression. I know what I'm talking about. -
i had been through depression too. i felt that i did not want to go on. I hoped that it would be the end of the world.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Because the TS doesn't know what he is talking about. He was probably just being angsty since he was 7.
I have been through both kinds of depression. I know what I'm talking about.
Yes, TS may not be very relevant in terms of suicidal problems, maybe cos he never been through depression. But he does not deserve to be whacked to this extent. you think he does? -
Yes, I whack everyone whom I dont like, especially people who want to look like what they are not. Too light a reminder will not leave an impression strong enough.Originally posted by sggirl07:i had been through depression too. i felt that i did not want to go on. I hoped that it would be the end of the world.
Yes, TS may not be very relevant in terms of suicidal problems, maybe cos he never been through depression. But he does not deserve to be whacked to this extent. you think he does? -
but you have to realize that most people have no idea what it actually FEELS like to be depressed to the point where u'd actually really want to commit suicide.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Because the TS doesn't know what he is talking about. He was probably just being angsty since he was 7.
I have been through both kinds of depression. I know what I'm talking about.
since you've been there, i assume that you have read articles and stuff about depression and suicide??
do you think those WORDS in those articles and books and whatever can actually DESCRIBE what depression REALLY IS??? i think NOT. depression is something which you will NEVER understand until you've been there yourself.
and so, its actually a good thing in a way for people to talk bad about people who are clinically depressed and suicidal because THEY DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE DEPRESSED.
tell me, do you actually want people to know how it feels to be depressed??? after you have been through all that sh|t, surely you dont want anyone else to go through the same....?
so perhaps its a good thing some people dont understand why you are so agitated. -
Was a little depressed a few weeks ago
....but now am so so much happier. Hope this can help u. If have any tips share share too!
1) Avoid people with negative energy : E.g. the chronic complainer , E.g. the detestable colleague (this one may be hard, at most quit the job)
2) See the positives out of negatives, and forget the negatives
3) Eat foods u like...haha...coffee works for me
4) Look forward to lunches when u can be in food paradise! -
Yes, agree. I wish that i cannot remember what it felt like. i am glad i only vaguely remember. maybe as time passed, the memory will become more blur. And i wish no one needs to go through that.Originally posted by udontknowme:but you have to realize that most people have no idea what it actually FEELS like to be depressed to the point where u'd actually really want to commit suicide.
since you've been there, i assume that you have read articles and stuff about depression and suicide??
do you think those WORDS in those articles and books and whatever can actually DESCRIBE what depression REALLY IS??? i think NOT. depression is something which you will NEVER understand until you've been there yourself.
and so, its actually a good thing in a way for people to talk bad about people who are clinically depressed and suicidal because THEY DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE DEPRESSED.
tell me, do you actually want people to know how it feels to be depressed??? after you have been through all that sh|t, surely you dont want anyone else to go through the same....?
so perhaps its a good thing some people dont understand why you are so agitated. -
ok, but at least now we have shown that we acknowledge that there is a deeper kind of depression that is not angsty, and is not easily solved by just these words.Originally posted by udontknowme:but you have to realize that most people have no idea what it actually FEELS like to be depressed to the point where u'd actually really want to commit suicide.
since you've been there, i assume that you have read articles and stuff about depression and suicide??
do you think those WORDS in those articles and books and whatever can actually DESCRIBE what depression REALLY IS??? i think NOT. depression is something which you will NEVER understand until you've been there yourself.
and so, its actually a good thing in a way for people to talk bad about people who are clinically depressed and suicidal because THEY DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE DEPRESSED.
tell me, do you actually want people to know how it feels to be depressed??? after you have been through all that sh|t, surely you dont want anyone else to go through the same....?
so perhaps its a good thing some people dont understand why you are so agitated. -
My word of advice, instead of using your energy and braincells to make life miserable for others, why dun you channel your energy and braincells to make life less miserable for yourself?Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Yes, I whack everyone whom I dont like, especially people who want to look like what they are not. Too light a reminder will not leave an impression strong enough.
Well, it is your life. You lead the way you want. Ignore me or whack my advice for all you want.
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I'm not miserable right now, I'm just bored and coming to sgf is my way of curing boredom.Originally posted by sggirl07:My word of advice, instead of using your energy and braincells to make life miserable for others, why dun you channel your energy and braincells to make life less miserable for yourself?
Well, it is your life. You lead the way you want. Ignore me or whack my advice for all you want.
All the best. -
I am not offended at all despite anything you might write Cartman.
Infact your negativity strengthens my resolve to try harder to help others, time unfortunately is my only limitation. Back to work.
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It appears that you don't know what the situation here is. You are still looking at this as a form of competition and jealousy. This is a sign of your ego at work.Originally posted by Life is Precious:I am not offended at all despite anything you might write Cartman.
Infact your negativity strengthens my resolve to try harder to help others, time unfortunately is my only limitation. Back to work.
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To Cartman, i think i understand wat u mean, i agree that this thread doesnt really help those with suicidal thoughts, but lets not be so harsh on the TS, at least he tried to help right?
To the TS, although i feel that this thread does not help much, but i do find it meaningful, i appreciate ur efforts and i am very happy to see u trying ur best to help others
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Moral of the story.
Don't take threads too seriously.
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I tend to agree with the above.Originally posted by udontknowme:perhaps...the thread title doesnt fit what the thread starter posted.
what he has posted might probably work for people who are down and upset and are faced with certain set backs. but definitely not for the severely depressed and suicidal.
it IS true that for someone who is severely depressed and suicidal, this most probably will only make the person feel worse.
to the TS, thanks for the effort as im sure it has helped some who are upset.
however, perhaps next time you should do a little research before you post things regarding sensitive topics such as suicide...
because truth is, a suicidal person might have been very much triggered (in a negative manner) by what you have posted...
When one falls into suicidal depression, general "inspirational" talk is honestly the last thing he/she needs. Trying to push your own perspective of life onto the person is akin to trivializing their problems.. almost taunting them. It would re-affirm their thoughts that no one understands, no one can help. What they need is a listening ear.. someone to just be there, a silent pillar of support. Not uninformed or righteous advice.
Remember, you'r'e addressing a person with a skewed outlook on life, pushed to the edge.. someone with a temporary mental imbalance. You dont know their problems. However well-intentioned your words or actions may be, it can and will backfire if you simply proceed the way you think is right. -
see I told you help only comes after the end of the heat for the lone guy
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Originally posted by spinsugar:
Agree.
I tend to agree with the above.
When one falls into suicidal depression, general "inspirational" talk is honestly the last thing he/she needs. Trying to push [b]your own perspective of life onto the person is akin to trivializing their problems.. almost taunting them. It would re-affirm their thoughts that no one understands, no one can help. What they need is a listening ear.. someone to just be there, a silent pillar of support. Not uninformed or righteous advice.
Remember, you'r'e addressing a person with a skewed outlook on life, pushed to the edge.. someone with a temporary mental imbalance. You dont know their problems. However well-intentioned your words or actions may be, it can and will backfire if you simply proceed the way you think is right.[/b] -
And you PRESUME AGAIN?Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Because the TS doesn't know what he is talking about. He was probably just being angsty since he was 7.
I have been through both kinds of depression. I know what I'm talking about.
Yours is NOT a DEPRESSION PROBLEM but more like a MINDSET PROBLEM to me...
Like I've said, if you're STILL under DEPRESSION.. Go SEEK a PROFESSIONAL's HELP and STOP trying to 'teach' others with YOUR DISTORTED THINKINGS...
If you've already OVERCOMED your DEPRESSIONS, then I'm RIGHT... YOU DO have a MINDSET PROBLEM...
DON'T go around the world telling people and PRESUMING that YOU are the ONLY ONE who had hit the WORST of DEPRESSION STATE...
THAT to me is TRYING TO BE WHAT you're NOT.... -
NOT IN AA YOU DON'T.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Yes, I whack everyone whom I dont like, especially people who want to look like what they are not. Too light a reminder will not leave an impression strong enough.
AND YOU STILL HAVE THE GUTS TO TELL THE TS OFF BY SAYING THAT HE MIGHT BE PUSHING PEOPLE TO SUICIDE EDGE? HOW ABOUT YOU TELLING THEM TO END THEIR LIVES?
EXPLAIN YOURSELF 1ST BEFORE YOU EVEN JUDGE OR CRITICISE ANYONE ELSE.
YOU LIKE TO WHACK ANYONE WHOM YOU DON'T LIKE IN THIS FORUM?
YOU BETTER GET LOST BEFORE I DECIDE TO WHACK YOU EVERYWHERE IN THIS FORUM AND OUT INTO YOUR LIFE... -
VERY SOON YOU SHALL SEE MY WAY OF KILLING MY BOREDOM....Originally posted by Eric Cartman:I'm not miserable right now, I'm just bored and coming to sgf is my way of curing boredom. -
.....Originally posted by Life is Precious:I am not offended at all despite anything you might write Cartman.
Infact your negativity strengthens my resolve to try harder to help others, time unfortunately is my only limitation. Back to work.
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You know what...? You sounds like AN IDIOT to ME...Originally posted by Eric Cartman:see I told you help only comes after the end of the heat for the lone guy
ANY MORE POST from you AFTER THIS POST of MINE and I'll FIRE AT WILL....
AA IS THE LAST PLACE YOU DREAM OF KILLING YOUR BOREDOM.
AND AS MUCH AS I HATE TO BE NASTY, I CAN DO THINGS FOR YOU WHICH I BELIEVE IS QUITE BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION FOR NOW...
TRY ME....