Is chastity still valued?
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Dao Bu Tong, Bu Xiang Wei Mou.
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Originally posted by M©+square:
The point being?
[b]Dao Bu Tong, Bu Xiang Wei Mou. [/b] -
Is he willing to continue the relationship without pushing for sex or persuading her into it?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:But the b/f is willing to continue with the relationship. That would meanthat he is willing to be her b/f and not have sex until marriage. That is a good boyfriend right? He thinks it is moral crap but willingly continue the relationship! What a nice guy.
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He said tat just because he wans sex from you tat's all... so sorry he valued sex more than you... dump him.Originally posted by kuri:I practise abstinence cos i believe in preserving my sexual purity for my spouse yet he finds it moral crap. mayb cos he's done it before, he says he doesnt bother bout his girl's past and the "chaste n innocent" girl doesnt appeal to him yet asked me at times whether i had done this done that before with other guys. barely a month ago he said no guy would want a no sex + non sexual relationship but he'll do it for me, now it's okie to no sex but not non sexual. when i explained to him my reasons for abstinence n why i was a lil mindful of his past he told me i should hav told him earlier n prevent him from falling for me. how did he not hav a clue? when he knew shortly after we started going out that i did not even give my first kiss to my ex-bf?
to me i've alr given a lot to him, to him it's not enough. if he doesnt value chastity at all then why did he even bother to ask if he's the first one i kissed etc? n to think he once said that my ex shouldnt b upset that he hadnt got a kiss from me. wat a joke. isnt it contradicting? wat is he thinking really?
is chastity still valued in today's society? just curious to know ppl's opinions, but regardless of what they r i'll still stick to my principle of abstinence from sex before marriage as i think it's the best for me, at least for wat i could think of this moment in time. -
Incompatibility in needs and wants, can only lead to separation.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The point being? -
It depends lah , there are some who thinks that being a Golden piece of Abalone deserves to be washed by water from a Golden Tap.
However all taps will wash any abalone.
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It is her body and she can always say no. This is what is happening right now. When she is married and he wants, she can also say no, not because of any moral concerns but because she has a headache.Originally posted by blu_sky:Is he willing to continue the relationship without pushing for sex or persuading her into it?
She will be saying NO to many things as well and if he is the kind that can take no for an answer, he is a good guy. He will give up "pushing for sex or persuading" sooner or later if he knows she is firm. -
That is if he gives up before she caves in or the relationship breaks down.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:It is her body and she can always say no. This is what is happening right now. When she is married and he wants, she can also say no, not because of any moral concerns but because she has a headache.
She will be saying NO to many things as well and if he is the kind that can take no for an answer, he is a good guy. He will give up "pushing for sex or persuading" sooner or later if he knows she is firm. -
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Chastity still has its value but it depends on inflation rate (values) of the people you associate with lor..........
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Well if she caves in or the relationship breaks down then start worrying! If she thinks that he will leave her once he has sex with her, then he can also leave her after the honeymoon right? Marriage is just a piece of paper and is no guarantee. The reason she is still with him must be he is a good person.Originally posted by blu_sky:That is if he gives up before she caves in or the relationship breaks down. -
If TS is so sure about this guy and so sure that he is a good person, where do you think her frustration stem from? why do you think she is frustrated when she sees contradiction in his words and action?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Well if she caves in or the relationship breaks down then start worrying! If she thinks that he will leave her once he has sex with her, then he can also leave her after the honeymoon right? Marriage is just a piece of paper and is no guarantee. The reason she is still with him must be he is a good person.
People these days are taking their own words too lightly.
If a guy is willing to go through all the trouble of preparation of a wedding, getting married and honeymoon, and bear the consequences of a divorce (in Singapore), just to cheat a gal's virginity, give it to him i say! Anyway, at that time, the gal's greatest loss and grief is probably no longer the loss of her virginity. -
WooOohoOoOoO!Originally posted by blu_sky:If TS is so sure about this guy and so sure that he is a good person, where do you think her frustration stem from? why do you think she is frustrated when she sees contradiction in his words and action?
People these days are taking their own words too lightly.
If a guy is willing to go through all the trouble of preparation of a wedding, getting married and honeymoon, and bear the consequences of a divorce (in Singapore), just to cheat a gal's virginity, give it to him i say! Anyway, at that time, the gal's greatest loss and grief is probably no longer the loss of her virginity. 
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Cherish your own values.... dump him.
Else he will dump you once his need is fulfill. -
dun waste yr chastity over this guy.. Of coz.. Chastity is still valued. I think people will quietly admire you for your toughness in resisting.
Good Luck and dun get bowed over by Pressure.
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Her frustration stems from her beliefs. It stems from her belief that "chastity" is very important. I am not saying that it is not important. I am not saying that she does not have a right to her belief.Originally posted by blu_sky:If TS is so sure about this guy and so sure that he is a good person, where do you think her frustration stem from? why do you think she is frustrated when she sees contradiction in his words and action?
People these days are taking their own words too lightly.
If a guy is willing to go through all the trouble of preparation of a wedding, getting married and honeymoon, and bear the consequences of a divorce (in Singapore), just to cheat a gal's virginity, give it to him i say! Anyway, at that time, the gal's greatest loss and grief is probably no longer the loss of her virginity.
All I am saying is that it is causing her the frustration.
You are saying that her bf is a "bad" guy because he does no believe in "chastity"
You cannot live life in such a simplistic manner can you? (I guess your answer will be that you can live life in such a simplistic manner)
If you live life in such simplistic terms, then you are just creating for yourself frustrations. You have to live life one day at a time. Today he is her bf. Good. When he pressurizers her, she refuses. If he pressurizers her, she refuses.
If not how? Find a perfect man? hahahahaha... there is none perfect. -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Her frustration stems from her beliefs. It stems from her belief that "chastity" is very important. I am not saying that it is not important. I am not saying that she does not have a right to her belief.
All I am saying is that it is causing her the frustration. --> Wrong. her belief does not give her the frustration. why would one's belief give one frustration? Crap. It is the conflict that gives her the frustration. Do you know what you are talking about?
You are saying that her bf is a "bad" guy because he does no believe in "chastity" -->did i say he is a bad guy? please quote me. otherwise dont simply put words into my mouth.
You cannot live life in such a simplistic manner can you? (I guess your answer will be that you can live life in such a simplistic manner) --> simplistic? you dont even know her boyfriend and you assume is a good man just because TS is still his girlfriend, tell me that is not simplistic. who is simple-minded here?
If you live life in such simplistic terms, then you are just creating for yourself frustrations. You have to live life one day at a time. --> Now, this is even more hilarious, and i almost missed it! Live one day at a time? so at this moment, Ms A likes Mr B alot, and she feels that he is right, so they should go to bed or get married without considering about the future at all? Living one day at a time, not thinking about the future. That is why so many people are living their lives with regrets. Today he is her bf. Good. When he pressurizers her, she refuses. If he pressurizers her, she refuses.
If not how? Find a perfect man? hahahahaha... there is none perfect. ---> perfect man? who is talking about perfect man here. You are out of point already. -
Oh Abalone also have expiry date. Some dried up already cannot be washed , need to be soaked 1st.
Golden taps can last longer is a myth which is broken by the blue pills which is known to give cardiac arrests.
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Dried abalone is still more precious than no abalone.Originally posted by NotFromVenus:Oh Abalone also have expiry date. Some dried up already cannot be washed , need to be soaked 1st.
Golden taps can last longer is a myth which is broken by the blue pills which is known to give cardiac arrests.
Honestly, i think to make a relationship work, it takes more than that hymen. Not sure if that hymen even helps. To each his own belief.
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Relationship excel when beliefs are actually turned into myths, people's values are constantly changing , "The right person never comes to you until you realized you missed it."
Of coz how you want to wash abalone is up to yourself. It's CNY, most of them come in cans. It is sad that people don't commit themselves to relationships nowadays and use the measuring tapes to measure their own relationships. -
Originally posted by NotFromVenus:
Sad indeed.
Relationship excel when beliefs are actually turned into myths, people's values are constantly changing , "The right person never comes to you until you realized you missed it."
Of coz how you want to wash abalone is up to yourself. It's CNY, most of them come in cans. It is sad that people don't commit themselves to relationships nowadays and use the [b]measuring tapes to measure their own relationships.
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You are very shallow. You need to think deeper. How did the conflict come about? Her beliefs! If not for her beliefs, there would be no conflicts. You must get as far down to the root of the problem as possible.Originally posted by blu_sky:Wrong. her belief does not give her the frustration. why would one's belief give one frustration? Crap. It is the conflict that gives her the frustration. Do you know what you are talking about?
Then why do you want her to break off with him if he is not a bad guy?Originally posted by blu_sky:did i say he is a bad guy? please quote me. otherwise dont simply put words into my mouth.Originally posted by blu_sky:simplistic? you dont even know her boyfriend and you assume is a good man just because TS is still his girlfriend, tell me that is not simplistic. who is simple-minded here? Rolling Eyes hahaha to you he is such a horrible guy that you want her to breakoff with him! If he is not a good guy why did she become his gf in the first place? why did she continue even though she is frus with their difference in values regarding Chastity?
You do not worry about the future, you only worry about the consequences of your actions at this moment.Originally posted by blu_sky:Now, this is even more hilarious, and i almost missed it! Live one day at a time? so at this moment, Ms A likes Mr B alot, and she feels that he is right, so they should go to bed or get married without considering about the future at all? Living one day at a time, not thinking about the future. That is why so many people are living their lives with regrets.
You do not life with regrets. You live life to the best of your abilities, today. You are so warp I do not see how you can be a happy person.
You mean you are not advocating that she breaks off with him? Then why are you arguing with me for? Thanks for supporting me.Originally posted by blu_sky:---> perfect man? who is talking about perfect man here. You are out of point already. -
Her belief cause her to be frustrated? if she finds a man who shares the same belief, would she still be frustrated? i need to think deeper? i think you need to use your brain (if you can find it) to think and STOP ASSUMING.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You are very shallow. You need to think deeper. How did the conflict come about? Her beliefs! If not for her beliefs, there would be no conflicts. You must get as far down to the root of the problem as possible.
Since when did i suggest that she break off with him? Go back and read all my posts and STOP ASSUMING.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Then why do you want her to break off with him if he is not a bad guy?
Since when did i say or suggest that he is a horrible guy? Go back and read all my posts and STOP ASSUMING.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:hahaha to you he is such a horrible guy that you want her to breakoff with him! If he is not a good guy why did she become his gf in the first place? why did she continue even though she is frus with their difference in values regarding Chastity?
who is even talking about worrying the future. but YOU are the one who said just live for today and disregard tomorrow and the future. Go ahead and live that life if you want but stop advocating that to the confused. You are suggesting to TS to just have sex with her bf, care about today, if tomorrow he dump her then she worry tomorrow? You are so irresponsible.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You do not worry about the future, you only worry about the consequences of your actions at this moment.
You do not life with regrets. You live life to the best of your abilities, today. You are so warp I do not see how you can be a happy person.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
No, i am not advocating for her to break off with him. Since when did i suggest that? [b]STOP ASSUMING. And no, i am not supporting your FXXK first then talk later. You are so irresponsible.
You mean you are not advocating that she breaks off with him? Then why are you arguing with me for? Thanks for supporting me.[b]
And, you cant read. i dun see a point in replying to your future post anymore, unless they make a tweeny bit of sense.
You remind me of a forumite who got banned.
Last reply to your irresponsible posts. -
Originally posted by M©+square:
[b]Dao Bu Tong, Bu Xiang Wei Mou. [/b]
wah ur chinese getting better and better leh.
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A question here.
Kuri, wat's ur relationship with him now?
BF/GF?
or still that ai mei guan xi?