Psychology, Social Science and Psychiatry
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Not scaring the kid, ifish. It's just the reality of the business. A lot of people get in, struggle with stats, decide it's all too hard and drop out.
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totally concur with what Gedanken mentioned. I first took up Psychology because I was intruiged with the study of human behaviour. And when you take up the initial modules like Personality or Social Psychology, everything is smooth sailing. And then, wham! Research Methods (Stats) comes in. And you end up playing and manipulating with figures, alpa values and SPSS. That is when you see people start to disillusionOriginally posted by Gedanken:Not scaring the kid, ifish. It's just the reality of the business. A lot of people get in, struggle with stats, decide it's all too hard and drop out. -
There are special softwares that will assist you in the various calculations. But as students we are not encouraged to use them, besides, these tools can be quite complicate too.Originally posted by ben1xy:totally concur with what Gedanken mentioned. I first took up Psychology because I was intruiged with the study of human behaviour. And when you take up the initial modules like Personality or Social Psychology, everything is smooth sailing. And then, wham! Research Methods (Stats) comes in. And you end up playing and manipulating with figures, alpa values and SPSS. That is when you see people start to disillusion
Just curious what other subjects did you take?
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Usully we use SPSS for quantitative analysisOriginally posted by DeadPoet:There are special softwares that will assist you in the various calculations. But as students we are not encouraged to use them, besides, these tools can be quite complicate too.
Just curious what other subjects did you take?
For qualitative research we will use either Nu*Dist or NVivio
at least during my time it was like that
anyway, from what i can remember:
Research Methods 1, 2, 3A, 3B
Social and Developmental Psych
Perception and Cognition
Learning & Physiological Psych
Assessment and Personality
Cognitive Science
Vision and Brain
The Psychology of Language
i think i missed out some
Maybe i am subverting or repressing my memories (study too much psychoanalysis
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Ah, that's easy stuff - try LISREL, EQS or writing your own Fortran code to calculate Item Response Theory parameter estimations, and then the fun begins.
Depending on which field of psych you get into, stats could well be a reality of life. At least 50% of my time at work is spent doing stats, and it's all done by SPSS syntax and LISREL - no drop-dopwn menus for me. -
so...
psychology used maths?
no matter e maths, a maths...
no cake dude!!! always the fews top in class...
haha...
i even get special privilege for my e math and to take o lvl 1 year earlier... only got 2 person in my class got this and one of them was me...
hmm... what subject does psychology uses?
got biology about brain anot?
i am only good in chem and physic... not in bio... haiz... -
Got.Originally posted by popikachu:so...
psychology used maths?
no matter e maths, a maths...
no cake dude!!! always the fews top in class...
haha...
i even get special privilege for my e math and to take o lvl 1 year earlier... only got 2 person in my class got this and one of them was me...
hmm... what subject does psychology uses?
got biology about brain anot?
i am only good in chem and physic... not in bio... haiz... -
Before you jump into it, it might be early, but have u given a thought to the profession you would want to be in? And how then would studying Psychology help u achieve this goal? Also, do bounce the idea around and not keep it set in stone.Originally posted by popikachu:so...
psychology used maths?
no matter e maths, a maths...
no cake dude!!! always the fews top in class...
haha...
i even get special privilege for my e math and to take o lvl 1 year earlier... only got 2 person in my class got this and one of them was me...
hmm... what subject does psychology uses?
got biology about brain anot?
i am only good in chem and physic... not in bio... haiz...
Stats and maths, while not exactly the same, but not dissimilar either. You could say they are cousins.
If you ask me what subjects helps in Psyc, well you will need to take bio psyc. Thus, biology would be a slight plus, but not a lot. A good command of English coupled with good writing skills would be helpful as there are a lot of written assignments. And lastly, Math. Beyond that, work hard and get a good honours because u need that to be a certified psychologist. A degree is not enough.
http://www.singaporepsychologicalsociety.org/psychologists.cfm
i attached a link for you. do check it out -
Sigh ...Originally posted by ben1xy:A degree is not enough.
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/there thereOriginally posted by DeadPoet:Sigh ...
it will be over soon
Your honours will be the most challenging but fulfilling period in your life. When you complete it bind your thesis up, and place it on your bookshelf with other academic books.. nothing beats that -
Now have to find a job, save up monies, then either pursue a Master in Counselling or Psychology.Originally posted by ben1xy:/there there
it will be over soon
Your honours will be the most challenging but fulfilling period in your life. When you complete it bind your thesis up, and place it on your bookshelf with other academic books.. nothing beats that
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Cheer up, DP - there's light at the end of this tunnel. I love my work!Originally posted by DeadPoet:Sigh ... -
Thanks. Psychology rocks!Originally posted by Gedanken:Cheer up, DP - there's light at the end of this tunnel. I love my work! -
Oh sorryOriginally posted by DeadPoet:Now have to find a job, save up monies, then either pursue a Master in Counselling or Psychology. 
i thought u were still a student in Uni
anyway, SIM has this new Masters in Counselling (not sure whether they opened enrolment yet. But do check that out! -
Originally posted by DeadPoet:Thanks. Psychology rocks!
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Thanks ben1xy!Originally posted by ben1xy:Oh sorry i thought u were still a student in Uni
anyway, SIM has this new Masters in Counselling (not sure whether they opened enrolment yet. But do check that out!
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Oh, you've gotta be pulling my leg! I don't have the slightest clue where my first thesis is, and I never bothered printing a copy of the second for myself - the only existing copies are in the library and my supervisor's office.Originally posted by ben1xy:Your honours will be the most challenging but fulfilling period in your life. When you complete it bind your thesis up, and place it on your bookshelf with other academic books.. nothing beats that
At the currect rate, between conferences and work, I produce a thesis once every 2-3 months. As the Bard put it, "Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting, the appetite may sicken and so die". -
Agreed to all of the above. I went into organisational psych when all of my classmates were going for clinical and counselling - never regretted it for a minute.Originally posted by ben1xy:Before you jump into it, it might be early, but have u given a thought to the profession you would want to be in? And how then would studying Psychology help u achieve this goal? Also, do bounce the idea around and not keep it set in stone.
Stats and maths, while not exactly the same, but not dissimilar either. You could say they are cousins.
If you ask me what subjects helps in Psyc, well you will need to take bio psyc. Thus, biology would be a slight plus, but not a lot. A good command of English coupled with good writing skills would be helpful as there are a lot of written assignments. And lastly, Math. Beyond that, work hard and get a good honours because u need that to be a certified psychologist. A degree is not enough.
Stats is more than just churning out the numbers. When I was tutoring Honours students, the first thing I would tell them that what analyses they chose not to do was at least as important as the ones they chose to do - you need to use your judgement to assess the most appropriate approach to what you're studying. Also, you've got the computer to do the dog's-body work for you. While you need to understand how you arrived at the figures and how sound your results are, it's useless if you can't work out what the numbers are telling you in terms of the topic you're discussing.
Biology's a plus if you're going to go into neuropsychology, but it's of limited use elsewhere. I came from a computer science background and personally I found that knowing computing findamentals made it really easy for me to understand cognition.
Round my neck of the woods, you can't legally call yourself a psychologist unless you've completed a Master's at least and had 120 days of supervised practice to go along with that. -
x2. I understand some of the psychologists in MCYS do not have a Master. I find this quite strange.Originally posted by Gedanken:Round my neck of the woods, you can't legally call yourself a psychologist unless you've completed a Master's at least and had 120 days of supervised practice to go along with that. -
mine's sitting pretty on my shelf nowOriginally posted by Gedanken:Oh, you've gotta be pulling my leg! I don't have the slightest clue where my first thesis is, and I never bothered printing a copy of the second for myself - the only existing copies are in the library and my supervisor's office.
At the currect rate, between conferences and work, I produce a thesis once every 2-3 months. As the Bard put it, "Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting, the appetite may sicken and so die".
darn proud of it. In many ways, your thesis is your first major research work -
I think my view of my first thesis was coloured by my experience with my supervisor - I dropped the guy after six months because his instructions were nonsensical. Finishing it by myself was a good lesson in trusting my own judgement, but by the time I was done I didn't ever want to see it again.Originally posted by ben1xy:mine's sitting pretty on my shelf now
darn proud of it. In many ways, your thesis is your first major research work -
Envy ...Originally posted by ben1xy:mine's sitting pretty on my shelf now
darn proud of it. In many ways, your thesis is your first major research work
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When u complete your Honours, you can register to be a probationary Psychologist (i think u need 1st class or second upper, its been a long time, can't really remember). But to be a full fledged psychologist, you will need a Masters/ post grad minimum. So maybe they are probationary thenOriginally posted by DeadPoet:x2. I understand some of the psychologists in MCYS do not have a Master. I find this quite strange. -
Just wondering is your current job related to Psychology?Originally posted by ben1xy:mine's sitting pretty on my shelf now
darn proud of it. In many ways, your thesis is your first major research work -
My supervisor was great, actually i had joint supervision. And we all got along well during my thesis, they were very very helpful. Now one of them is my supervisor-come-boss.Originally posted by Gedanken:I think my view of my first thesis was coloured by my experience with my supervisor - I dropped the guy after six months because his instructions were nonsensical. Finishing it by myself was a good lesson in trusting my own judgement, but by the time I was done I didn't ever want to see it again.