should i go for it?
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It is all very simple. I believe you know what the answer is actually, and you know very clearly, as well as what is at stake.
All you have to do is decide if you want to follow your head or your d|ck.
Aiyo just choose one to follow lah. Are you a man or an indecisive teenage girl??Originally posted by fourfourtwo8:no way...hmmm
interesting...but she was the one who asked me... -
funny nothing sexual ever came through my mind before , it has never been a factor in any of my relationship , i believe once we are comfortable and in love sex is a natural thing but at the same time there is no deadline or rush to do it.Originally posted by choco B:It is all very simple. I believe you know what the answer is actually, and you know very clearly, as well as what is at stake.
All you have to do is decide if you want to follow your head or your d|ck.
Aiyo just choose one to follow lah. Are you a man or an indecisive teenage girl??
im just thinking more of the fact this is the first time we are going to see each other naked and in a spa?
just the weird factor -
Originally posted by smudgey:
how come your definition of gentleman sounds like a maid for the girl?
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there's a difference between being a Gentleman and Being a white carrot!
Be a gentleman, open the door for her, pull up the chair for her, and maybe pick up the bill (meals)
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doko -
what do u mean that it's fair?Originally posted by fourfourtwo8:but hor, she is so young, im so old, so its fair mah
no problem wan...
you got so much money to throw about?
besides, if that's the way you have been treating her up to now... and IF she's a materialistic gal, then no wonder she wanna start something with you.
wake up la bro!
True friends are NOT BOUGHT! -
hahaha watch from tv wan ma...Originally posted by dokono:how come your definition of gentleman sounds like a maid for the girl?
doko
actually being a gentleman just needs to be attentive to gal's needs can liao....
what i mean is, it doesn't take $$$ to be a gentleman, a poor guy can also be very gentlemanly... -
you got it wrong , actually all the while i have not bought her anything or treated her anything except for the coffee and listening to her stories..Originally posted by smudgey:what do u mean that it's fair?
you got so much money to throw about?
besides, if that's the way you have been treating her up to now... and IF she's a materialistic gal, then no wonder she wanna start something with you.
wake up la bro!
True friends are NOT BOUGHT!
in fact she gives me presents all the time(actually recycle stuff the other uncle give her and too polite to refuse)
so its the other way around so far
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Totally agree!Originally posted by smudgey:wa.... like that hor... i also wan you this type of FRIEND!
please think... think of a pal whom you have absolutely no special feelings for.
would you pay for all her spending?
there's a difference between being a Gentleman and Being a white carrot!
Be a gentleman, open the door for her, pull up the chair for her, and maybe pick up the bill (meals), but when it comes to her shopping, that's her's to pay not yours
Gosh i don't even let my bf(ex) pay for my own shoppings not to mention just a friend!!!
If i have the ability, why should i let the guy pay..!
But this could be another tactical strategy to catch those golden turtles...
Gals might use this tactic to impressive rich man into the thinking, i know u are rich, but still i am not into ur $$$....
Once they had caught u... slowly they will show their foxy tail.... slowly draining u out.... -
LOGICALLY if you are just friends and if you are really SERIOUS about building up a proper relationship with her, you will stick to your step-by-step method of "comfortable -> in love -> sex" .
And you would take it upon yourself to AVOID situations that bring you both prematurely to sex e.g. going to couple spa, doing things that will bring you two physically intimate, going on long holidays.
LOGICALLY if you are really serious about that, you will AVOID. Obviously there is no love yet, right? So all these activities shouldn't be done now, right?
But if you GIAN, then you will start to think - hmm is this ok? Maybe that's ok? It's the dick talking.
Pls lah, you're no spring chicken also. Who's to stop you from indulging, especially when she is willing? Just do it responsibly.Originally posted by fourfourtwo8:funny nothing sexual ever came through my mind before , it has never been a factor in any of my relationship , i believe once we are comfortable and in love sex is a natural thing but at the same time there is no deadline or rush to do it.
im just thinking more of the fact this is the first time we are going to see each other naked and in a spa?
just the weird factor -
whatever it is, you have a decision to make.Originally posted by fourfourtwo8:you got it wrong , actually all the while i have not bought her anything or treated her anything except for the coffee and listening to her stories..
in fact she gives me presents all the time(actually recycle stuff the other uncle give her and too polite to refuse)
so its the other way around so far
im flattered by her treatment
if you only wanna treat her as a friend,
sponsoring her shopping, etc. will only give her the wrong idea, and lead her on -
don't believe from tv everything, many things are rubbish from tv.Originally posted by smudgey:hahaha watch from tv wan ma...
actually being a gentleman just needs to be attentive to gal's needs can liao....
what i mean is, it doesn't take $$$ to be a gentleman, a poor guy can also be very gentlemanly...
my belief: if you are not confident of being a gentleman, don't try to act like one, don't try to force yourself as something you are not, you will across as being fake. It must be from your heart, then you will be confident.
doko -
hahahaOriginally posted by *bluee:Totally agree!
If i have the ability, why should i let the guy pay..!
But this could be another tactical strategy to catch those golden turtles...
Gals might use this tactic to impressive rich man into the thinking, i know u are rich, but still i am not into ur $$$....
Once they had caught u... slowly they will show their foxy tail.... slowly draining u out....
granted!
well.... all my ex were poorer then me... but i not rich also... so they can take care of themselves can liao!! -
hahaha i like the way u said that!!!!Originally posted by choco B:LOGICALLY if you are just friends and if you are really SERIOUS about building up a proper relationship with her, you will stick to your step-by-step method of "comfortable -> in love -> sex" .
And you would take it upon yourself to AVOID situations that bring you both prematurely to sex e.g. going to couple spa, doing things that will bring you two physically intimate, going on long holidays.
LOGICALLY if you are really serious about that, you will AVOID. Obviously there is no love yet, right? So all these activities shouldn't be done now, right?
But if you GIAN, then you will start to think - hmm is this ok? Maybe that's ok? It's the dick talking.
Pls lah, you're no spring chicken also. Who's to stop you from indulging, especially when she is willing? Just do it responsibly.
and I agree too~~ -
as i said if it happens, its happens naturally , no preplanning ahead...Originally posted by smudgey:hahaha i like the way u said that!!!!
and I agree too~~
that takes the evil out of it ,
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Wrong.
Because you deliberately put yourselves in that situation. You allowed it to happen.Originally posted by fourfourtwo8:as i said if it happens, its happens naturally , no preplanning ahead...
that takes the evil out of it ,
hor? -
ya , thats kind of evil,Originally posted by choco B:Wrong.
Because you deliberately put yourselves in that situation. You allowed it to happen.
anyway its fair nowadays , when couple have sex willingly there is nobody wrong or right, we dont do it with the promise we love each other forever, if it happens it happens, how we deal with it later,,,thats the question
and its rude to turn down an invitation to couple spa...not cheap you know? -
You don't have to justify anything to us
You just have to convince yourselfOriginally posted by fourfourtwo8:ya , thats kind of evil,
anyway its fair nowadays , when couple have sex willingly there is nobody wrong or right, we dont do it with the promise we love each other forever, if it happens it happens, how we deal with it later,,,thats the question
and its rude to turn down an invitation to couple spa...not cheap you know? -
hehehe this way i can say you guys was the one who encouraged me to do so!!Originally posted by choco B:You don't have to justify anything to us
You just have to convince yourself -
You two deserve each other.Originally posted by fourfourtwo8:hehehe this way i can say you guys was the one who encouraged me to do so!! -
thanks for your blessingsOriginally posted by choco B: You two deserve each other. -
hmmm... 4428, can i ask u something? what's holding u back? izzit cos u're worried about age difference and the problems (parental objection, public opinion, being 'uncle', etc) it can bring? cos u never saw her as a potential gf/wife b4 n now u may have to see her in a different light? cos u still see ur ex as 'the one' and aren't ready to have some1 else take her place? cos u're afraid she'll eat ur money? (which i think the formers are more afraid of this than u. haha) or something else?
i'm just curious about what a guy ur age is thinking about/how a man would view a situation like this. no obligations to tell if u don't want to either k?
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Where'd your guts go ?
Did your ex throw it to the dogs ? -
i am a lady myself....
To start a r/s with age diff of that much dun really matters... as long as he loves me and can take care of me... this would be the key points i am looking for...
But sorry to say, such r/s might not start off with love... i am being more materialistic....
But this doesn't mean that i wun love this guy in future... love can be developed...
To have such thinkings, it can only endangered guys in 1 way only....
we want to be together not bcos of love, its the satability u can provide.... -
Hi fourfourtwo8 (car plate number?)
YouÂ’re fretting over the question prematurely at this stage though it helps to note the few boo boos that may influence how a May December romance develops when itÂ’s time to think about commitment.
DonÂ’t think itÂ’ll be too effective analyzing her character since youÂ’ve known her very well over the years. Coming from a female perspective, similar age group and backgroundÂ…
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YouÂ’re babbling a lot about your feelings, so obviously, you like her quite a fair bit. It speaks for itself with your post at this forum. Have you had previous experience dating younger women? Socialized with her friends from the entertainment line?
If you are after a lover:
In this situation, dating a hot young babe 20 years your junior is acceptable because you are well to do and based on what youÂ’re saying, she seems to have chemistry with you. She is inviting you to start something, just go along for the ride. There is nothing wrong with couple spa in Europe, sex on the beach and all. Forget about public opinion here, parental objections, level of maturity and blah blah blah. You are both adults and when one starts, the other one dances.
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If you are after a committed partner:
Avoid swiping credit cards and buying expensive presents at this stage. Diamonds and 15K items are meant for mothers, wives and fiancées. Paying for dates and dinner is fine. If she’s beautiful and between 18 and 22, never try to buy her. Especially if you are not ruling out possibilities of a relationship later on.
Alternatively if the agenda is clear; she is after your money, and you are fine with the trade off, then no problem. Just donÂ’t end up with a heavy love problem with this girl and miss the real deal down the road (IÂ’m saying this because it sounds like you want someone to settle down with).
SheÂ’s telling you about the rich uncles, but is she talking about how much she likes you? What about the hot models/producers/managers kissing at her doorstep? She is on fire and starting her run now. Unless you're on the same page with her, in due time there will be overwhelming hurdles.
She finds comfort and repose in your company/maturity given the nature of her job. Opposites attract.
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My nagging suspicion: When bragging rights and ego trips fizzle out, you'll eventually be singing Scar Tissue by The Red Hot Chili Peppers -
not when u anticipate it!Originally posted by fourfourtwo8:as i said if it happens, its happens naturally , no preplanning ahead...
that takes the evil out of it ,
hor?
this is a classical situation where... TS obviously know what he wanna do, what he WILL do...
just wan ppl to agree with him!
i say you make your bed be prepared to sleep in it. -
Hey Jackie girl,Originally posted by jackdaniels:***
My nagging suspicion: YouÂ’ll eventually be singing Scar Tissue by The Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Not very optimistic about this one eh ?