You are asking this question after we have completed THREE full pages? We are into the 4th page and people that contributed had no problems identifying what this thread is about... except you.Originally posted by Chin Eng:hey andrew:
the topic is: Good Parenting Skills - Eastern/Western.... so are we still talking about good parenting skills between the east and the west hah?
or...
is the working title wrong hah?
andrew, you cannot delete this thread hor... not like "crap utopia" the last time hor.... wrong title, delete thread - rather embarrasing won't you say?
or are we talking about the need to refer to experts as a starting point hah?
because your opening post not very clear hor....![]()
Sorry I just saw your post... I think the MODS should speak out against offensive posts so that there is some sort of justice... in AAOriginally posted by popikachu:Andrew, Chin Eng.
I guess you guys should stop replying to each other...
This is the last warning or the thread will be close.
And again, if someone were to post something again, DUN REPLY ANYTHING THAT MAY SEEM OFFENCING.
I don't wish to close thread.
Thread are for discussing, not qurreling...
no lah, i followed your lead mah.... you ask question in the first post, and i faithfully answered, it was only until much later than you decided that the real emphasis is on the reference to expert opinions.... you see, true to your style, you switch the goal post... like all your other threads.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You are asking this question after we have completed THREE full pages? We are into the 4th page and people that contributed had no problems identifying what this thread is about... except you.
You are not clear what this thread is about and yet you made so many posts in the last THREE pages. Are your posts in the last THREE pages made while you were in a delusion as to what the thread is all about?
if I have been offensive, pray tell where......Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:just to add... otherwise people can just keep on posting offensive material if they want threads closed.
The topic title states a controversy... an excuse, if you like... for people not to follow expert advice.Originally posted by Chin Eng:no lah, i followed your lead mah.... you ask question in the first post, and i faithfully answered, it was only until much later than you decided that the real emphasis is on the reference to expert opinions....
i mean, if i had followed you wrongly, you must tell mah.... end of the day, the onus of discussion is on you mah....
yeah, i am delusional about what this thread is all about.... care to clear my thoughts a little..... p l e a s e......![]()
Originally posted by Chin Eng:SUBSTANTIATE YOU CLAIMS can't even do that right?
what controversy? pray tell. please point out where in the title and the first thread is the controversy stated.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The topic title states a controversy... an excuse, if you like... for people not to follow expert advice.
I am giving an opinion, isn't that what you were asking in post 1? My reply on eastern/western parenting skill is based on the title and post 1.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:So you think that the experts "promotes independence, individual rights, earlier empty nest syndrome....." ???? To use your own words
Np problem with you giving your opinions... only please to use your own words...Originally posted by Chin Eng:I am giving an opinion, isn't that what you were asking in post 1? If you are looking for expert analysis you wouldn't do it in sgforums, would you?
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
SUBSTANTIATE YOU CLAIMS can't even do that right?
give opinion in your thread, need prove,Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:No problem with you giving your opinions... only please to use your own words...
shifting the goal post again....Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I would also like to inform you that I wish to stick with the topic and will ignore all other parts of your posts not related to the topic, as advice by the MOD and suggest that you do the same. So please substantiate your claims with regards to expert opinions.
my bad, no need to log off....Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The issue is very simple. Let's not think in terms of eastern or western parenting styles and parents please do not base your parenting styles on what you imagined are eastern or western parenting styles based on beliefs and delusions in your head. Instead, have a yardstick (read what the experts say), and measure your beliefs about good parenting against what the experts say.
The 8:06 post:Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The topic title states a controversy... an excuse, if you like... for people not to follow expert advice.
Topic heading:Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The issue is very simple. Let's not think in terms of eastern or western parenting styles and parents please do not base your parenting styles on what you imagined are eastern or western parenting styles based on beliefs and delusions in your head. Instead, have a yardstick (read what the experts say), and measure your beliefs about good parenting against what the experts say.
I really don't know which lines of my post are even suggestive of advising parents not pick up good parenting techniques.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I hope this post is not suggesting that parents do not pick up good parenting techniques from reliable sources.
I agree, parents must always remember that all the techniques given by the experts are just basic guidelines on how its done.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:I really don't know which lines of my post are even suggestive of advising parents not pick up good parenting techniques.
To clarify my post - I wish to emphasize that EXECUTION of techniques is far more complex than simply understanding the theory.
Regardless of difficulty, parents should not 'copy' techniques from experts WHOLESALE without first understanding themselves, their children and their environment.
Inconsistent execution of parenting techniques can result in confusion for the child and may cause more damage than parents who know NO expert theory and only possess a big dose of common sense and love.
It is not to undermine expert opinions on childhood education, or to suggest that parents should not constantly learn and improve.
If you don't understand and don't get it, just say "I don't understand and I don't get it"Originally posted by Chin Eng:The 7:45 post:
Topic heading:
Good Parenting Skills - Eastern/Western
....all quite different hor....???after 4 pages.... things are ahem... really shifting all over the place.
to me the title is NOT a controversy, but a contrast, but that's my humble opinion, and i sincerely hope that i don't need to justify this statement.![]()
This sentence in your original postOriginally posted by ShrodingersCat:I really don't know which lines of my post are even suggestive of advising parents not pick up good parenting techniques.
To clarify my post - I wish to emphasize that EXECUTION of techniques is far more complex than simply understanding the theory.
Regardless of difficulty, parents should not 'copy' techniques from experts WHOLESALE without first understanding themselves, their children and their environment.
Inconsistent execution of parenting techniques can result in confusion for the child and may cause more damage than parents who know NO expert theory and only possess a big dose of common sense and love.
It is not to undermine expert opinions on childhood education, or to suggest that parents should not constantly learn and improve.
Originally posted by Ito_^:when i have kids, i'll spend lotsa lotsa time with em!
and i hope em to make their own decisions from young!![]()
and and!
ill tell em!
not to follow the bad examples of squabbling parents above.![]()