Loving a person without reason.. How truth is it?
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if someone say he/she love without reason. Perhaps he/she don't know the reason.
Love is a by product of, sex, care, appearance, sacrifice, appealing nature etc.
a by product can not last longer if source is keep changing.
all above factors are just entrance doors for two human to come closer.
what keep the relation longer, healthy, full of ove and respect is when your chemistry matches.
we meet thousand of people in our life but make only few best friends. that is mainly becuase our chemistry matches. -
Or he doesn't need to know the reason. Why make love so logical and rational, thereby destroying the beauty of it? Like for instance, yes I probably like sex, care, appearance, sacrifice, appealing nature with/of my wife, but why do you even need to determine the factors so clearly?Originally posted by ali8434:if someone say he/she love without reason. Perhaps he/she don't know the reason.
Love is a by product of, sex, care, appearance, sacrifice, appealing nature etc.
a by product can not last longer if source is keep changing.
all above factors are just entrance doors for two human to come closer.
what keep the relation longer, healthy, full of ove and respect is when your chemistry matches.
we meet thousand of people in our life but make only few best friends. that is mainly becuase our chemistry matches.
Its like Magic. There is no more fun when you break the code and let the world know of how the tricks are being done.
Besides, the chemistry you are talking about is not exactly the chemistry we learned in school. Its not something that Science can explain fully as well -
Im sure ur wife is really fortunate to hav a hubby who is so wise & love her so much.Originally posted by soul_rage:yes I will. I see myself and my wife in old age still happily together, coz the love I have transcends external appearance already.
How long, may i ask, hav u been married? -
Let me see, 5 years already. Known her for more than 6 years in total.Originally posted by RedizAlertz:Im sure ur wife is really fortunate to hav a hubby who is so wise & love her so much. How long, may i ask, hav u been married?
I proposed to her after 3 months of courtship
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Wonderful! U hav made ur point. U made me realise tat the period of time of knowin a person is not important, it's the chemisty. Some pple think the longer the time of the courtship, the better. I hav know some pple who, even after 7 yrs of courtship, eventually still hav to go separated ways.Originally posted by soul_rage:Let me see, 5 years already. Known her for more than 6 years in total.
I proposed to her after 3 months of courtship
I believe whether the r/s work out or not, 99% dependable on the humans themselves.
U r a warrior in ur r/s, soul_rage!! Im sure urs wll remain in bliss til old age! -
if you need a reason, it's conditional..
since when was love conditional?Originally posted by CannyOng:Hi.. I often heard many people say that,they love their opposite sex partner without a reason.
It might be love at first sight...
It might be solely be feeling...
Whatever... Do u believe u need no reason to love a person and base just on purely feeling?
I have a girl friend, she got a bf recently and I know my friend got foul temper and childish. As I predicted,her bf cannot handle and tahan her. He is trouble and he suddenly call me up to pour out his feeling. He told me he loves my friend just becos he loves her and no reason and based purely on feeling(so call love at first sight). He claim only such love is the ultimate lvl of love. Love a person with any bias,no factor and unconditional love...
Just like my friend case,her foul temper will pissed off a lof of pontential lover. I am feeling that guy is suffering cos of his intuition of loving a person without reason.
I don't believe love a person base on feeling...
What is yr view? -
Thanks very much!Originally posted by RedizAlertz:Wonderful! U hav made ur point. U made me realise tat the period of time of knowin a person is not important, it's the chemisty. Some pple think the longer the time of the courtship, the better. I hav know some pple who, even after 7 yrs of courtship, eventually still hav to go separated ways.
I believe whether the r/s work out or not, 99% dependable on the humans themselves.
U r a warrior in ur r/s, soul_rage!! Im sure urs wll remain in bliss til old age! 
That's why I believe in love. I made the choice with an absolute determination. And we encountered many obstacles which we conquered them together.
Many people say that "Marriage is the grave of love". I think that's depending on a person. Most people think that after marriage, they can drop all efforts to please or be with the other party. Most people do not understand, that for a marriage to be successful, effort is still required. The most impt thing is not to treat the effort as a burden.
If one finds that his/her relationship saps energy, then I believe that this person should seriously think carefully, whether this is the correct relationship for him/her to be in.
For me, I prefer to say I am dating my wife everyday. And I am constantly thinking of ways of making her happy. Hey, its fun! -
Originally posted by LyonK:unconditional love means accepting her ferocious temper too.
Don't you just love theories....?Originally posted by oOprinceOo:agreed. -
Without reason at all? It's total bullsh|t. There could be reasons, just a matter of conscious or subconscious ones....Originally posted by CannyOng:Hi.. I often heard many people say that,they love their opposite sex partner without a reason.
It might be love at first sight...
It might be solely be feeling...
Whatever... Do u believe u need no reason to love a person and base just on purely feeling?
I have a girl friend, she got a bf recently and I know my friend got foul temper and childish. As I predicted,her bf cannot handle and tahan her. He is trouble and he suddenly call me up to pour out his feeling. He told me he loves my friend just becos he loves her and no reason and based purely on feeling(so call love at first sight). He claim only such love is the ultimate lvl of love. Love a person with any bias,no factor and unconditional love...
Just like my friend case,her foul temper will pissed off a lof of pontential lover. I am feeling that guy is suffering cos of his intuition of loving a person without reason.
I don't believe love a person base on feeling...
What is yr view? -
that's your opinion, just as I have mine.Originally posted by Devil1976:Without reason at all? It's total bullsh|t. There could be reasons, just a matter of conscious or subconscious ones....
reason is often opposed to emotions or feelings, and desires, drives or passions
So your idea that there must be a reason for love is also bullsh|t to me. -
soul-rage, I have to agree with all your posts.
As of now, I am helping my wife change for the better, no matter how difficult it may seem, and there's improvement
Like yourself, everytime I meet her, I would think that I still pak tor with her. Yep, everyone has different way of showing love. And when it comes, you will like it(don't only think of sex)! Although arguments are ugly, it's the improvement or positive 'aftermath' effect that binds a relationship even stronger. My wife, who always likes screaming divorce, has stopped doing so(I hope it's permanent). Even when we had a very bad fight, she does not mention it liao.
Nowadays, people say there is no love. How much of that is influenced by other people? Television, Internet, "screams of freedom and liberty" from other cultures. All these seem to transform us into impatient, speedy self-gratifying, materialistic animals. Before we tell other people there's no such thing as love, perhaps we should look at ourselves if we can give or are deserving of such love. -
yalo yaloOriginally posted by angel7030:Love has no reason, when u love a person, u just love him/she, it a feeling of wanting to share something with him/her, a feeling of giving, share and care. And for the sake of love, a person must change his/her attititude, characteristics and even personality. It is important to change onself so as to embrace love that shall bringforth happiness for both. Your fren hot temper will get here no where, because she never truly love her bf, if she really do love him, she should mend her way for the benefit of Love.
Love can be heaven and it can also be hell.
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btw, you can love a person and walk away from the person..
just like a lot of people out there not love a person and still stay with the person.. -
Love is TRULY blind.Originally posted by CannyOng:Hi.. I often heard many people say that,they love their opposite sex partner without a reason.
It might be love at first sight...
It might be solely be feeling...
Whatever... Do u believe u need no reason to love a person and base just on purely feeling?
I have a girl friend, she got a bf recently and I know my friend got foul temper and childish. As I predicted,her bf cannot handle and tahan her. He is trouble and he suddenly call me up to pour out his feeling. He told me he loves my friend just becos he loves her and no reason and based purely on feeling(so call love at first sight). He claim only such love is the ultimate lvl of love. Love a person with any bias,no factor and unconditional love...
Just like my friend case,her foul temper will pissed off a lof of pontential lover. I am feeling that guy is suffering cos of his intuition of loving a person without reason.
I don't believe love a person base on feeling...
What is yr view? -
The feelings come with a reason too
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Originally posted by soul_rage:
Or he doesn't need to know the reason. Why make love so logical and rational, thereby destroying the beauty of it? Like for instance, yes I probably like sex, care, appearance, sacrifice, appealing nature with/of my wife, but why do you even need to determine the factors so clearly?
i think i should explain in simple words. my point was that there is always a reason. either you know it or you don't know it. perhaps it really doesn't matter if you don't know or even you don't want to know. that depend on each individual person.
Its like Magic. There is no more fun when you break the code and let the world know of how the tricks are being done.
i can exactly understand what you said and i agree its charm as i have also been under the influence of Magic. but then realised the next level of magic and that is when you controll it and create your own magic under you own terms and condition, play when you want to, replay it, make it stand still and prolong it as long as you wish to. belive me that is entiry a different excitment and enjoyment.
Besides, the chemistry you are talking about is not exactly the chemistry we learned in school. Its not something that Science can explain fully as well
[color=darkred]i did not use this word in scientific terms. perhpas i used it in term of social, common interests, habits, liking and disliking etc [/color] -
Again I beg to defer.Originally posted by Isis:Love is TRULY blind.
I am not advocating a love that is blind.
Loving without a reason is not equal to loving blindly. -
My wife was the same. I made her promise she will NEVER use the word "divorce", and she made me promise our quarrels will NEVER cross over to the next day.Originally posted by Frustrated_guy:soul-rage, I have to agree with all your posts.
As of now, I am helping my wife change for the better, no matter how difficult it may seem, and there's improvement
Nowadays, people say there is no love. How much of that is influenced by other people? Television, Internet, "screams of freedom and liberty" from other cultures. All these seem to transform us into impatient, speedy self-gratifying, materialistic animals. Before we tell other people there's no such thing as love, perhaps we should look at ourselves if we can give or are deserving of such love.
Loving a person, accepting their faults, and THEN helping them to improve, is a higher level of love. Its pretty painful trying to help a person clear a fault that has been with them for so long, but its very satisfying when you see them improve
And I agree with your final statement. Well said
"Before we tell other people there's no such thing as love, perhaps we should look at ourselves if we can give or are deserving of such love"
Many times, we blame others, when we never look at ourselves. Its like the selfish male that goes around sleeping with gals, and expects his future wife to be a virgin. -
I learnt something from your analogy on Magic. Thanks, its an interesting idea of controlling one's own destiny.Originally posted by ali8434:i think i should explain in simple words. my point was that there is always a reason. either you know it or you don't know it. perhaps it really doesn't matter if you don't know or even you don't want to know. that depend on each individual person.
i can exactly understand what you said and i agree its charm as i have also been under the influence of Magic. but then realised the next level of magic and that is when you controll it and create your own magic under you own terms and condition, play when you want to, replay it, make it stand still and prolong it as long as you wish to. belive me that is entiry a different excitment and enjoyment.
However, I would like to highlight then, that there is no particular need to put your love down in words and in clear terms, when all you need to know is that feeling of happiness and joy in your heart. Reasoning tends to make things too logical (its very close to logic. In fact, logic is derived from reasoning)
Sometimes, language limits our feelings, just as Science limits how powerful our brain can become. -
agree. But that's also another level which not many can attainOriginally posted by the Bear:btw, you can love a person and walk away from the person..
just like a lot of people out there not love a person and still stay with the person.. -
is it possible that u onli lust after e person n u dun love them at all? so in e end.... of course cannot find a reason why u love them?
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that's also possibleOriginally posted by waliao:is it possible that u onli lust after e person n u dun love them at all? so in e end.... of course cannot find a reason why u love them?
it also means this person doesn't understand himself -
love is just a word... anyone can just say it. U can say it to a dog... u can say it to ur enemy..... u can say it to a stranger if u dare.Originally posted by soul_rage:that's also possible
it also means this person doesn't understand himself -
I help u find yr reason of yr love for yr wife.Originally posted by soul_rage:My wife was the same. I made her promise she will NEVER use the word "divorce", and she made me promise our quarrels will NEVER cross over to the next day.
Loving a person, accepting their faults, and THEN helping them to improve, is a higher level of love. Its pretty painful trying to help a person clear a fault that has been with them for so long, but its very satisfying when you see them improve
And I agree with your final statement. Well said
"Before we tell other people there's no such thing as love, perhaps we should look at ourselves if we can give or are deserving of such love"
Many times, we blame others, when we never look at ourselves. Its like the selfish male that goes around sleeping with gals, and expects his future wife to be a virgin.
Reason: She is willing to change for u
Imagine she is like my fiery friend, F*ck(scold) u upsidedown whenever she deems happy and there seems no improvement of her. How will u feel? I will wonder will u still say love is abt chemistry?? -
Depends.Originally posted by CannyOng:I help u find yr reason of yr love for yr wife.
Reason: She is willing to change for u
Imagine she is like my fiery friend, F*ck(scold) u upsidedown whenever she deems happy and there seems no improvement of her. How will u feel? I will wonder will u still say love is abt chemistry??
I never did set out loving her coz she is willing to change for me. (How would I know that right at the start?)
It was thru the years, when she realized that I meant it for her own good, that she begins to change for the better.
And it is not for me.
I want her to be a better person and succeed in life, for herself, not for me.
As for your friend. I wouldn't even get attracted to such a girl, so if there is no chemistry, I cannot discuss about love