Keena odex-ed by someone. How?
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kp la.. i c title tot sumthing with anime
read read read
HP -.-''
anyway.. ts.. i seriously dunoe wad is goin on
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F*ck her over.
Seriously, you take the extra initiative to go through all that trouble just for her, and this is the way she repays you? I think at the very least, she should realize what an ass she was for doing this to someone who helped her.
Don't be intimidated by her. She's just trying to act big and gain a legal hold on you, should you happen to have seen anything which may be scandalous. -
what did she want to prove?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:if this is recognised by the law, then ok lor. but i don't think it is. and i think because i told her that its childish etc.. so she's determined to prove that she can have it her way.
prove that a diploma in law mean she can have everything going her way? -
deleted. double post.
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sigh.. that's why alot of people say they scared of ghost..
but in fact, humans are scarier..
nevermind la. i just hope this blows over soon. thanks for all your advices people.. i really appreciate it.. -
So if you don't sign a thing, she can't do a thing right? Or you afraid she'll gather a girl gang and bash the daylights out of you? Or claimed you raped her or something.
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i scared she forced to go civil suit, and i sway sway the judge bad mood let me keena.Originally posted by ditzy:So if you don't sign a thing, she can't do a thing right? Or you afraid she'll gather a girl gang and bash the daylights out of you? Or claimed you raped her or something.
somemore, as a lawyer, part of her skill is to make everything look bad. from black become white, white become black. -
she just came online.
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give up lah. this type of friend useless lah. she one day will realize why she getting lesser and lesser friend and no one will help her when she need one.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:she just came online. -
i blocked her and now going to slp. fever liao. gd nite all
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lol diploma in law & management is nothing. They end up as office assistants or at most paralegals.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i scared she forced to go civil suit, and i sway sway the judge bad mood let me keena.
somemore, as a lawyer, part of her skill is to make everything look bad. from black become white, white become black.
You need a law degree with honours to practice as a lawyer.
Diploma in law & management- their law syallbus is a joke! -
If you still feel scared go talk to a lawyer lor.
They charge an hourly consultation fee though. But its worth it for peace of mind.
Perhaps you can give HOH a try since it purports to provide affordable legal services. -
as far as I see it,
u should just say sorry be REALLY apologetic for using her phone to make calls, picking up her calls and going through her sms
no matter how nice you were for helping her to retrieve her phone
treat it like it is 2 separate issues
she must have trusted you to ask you for help to begin with
yet her trust was misplaced
your invasion of her privacy is NOT cancelled out by doing something for her to begin with.
Imagine if you dropped your wallet and someone picked it up
and you are grateful
but later you realised this person had been going through your entire wallet
check what you have been purchasing, check the condoms you tuck inside, check the chio photo of your girlfriend, and see that your bank account only for $100, and used your cash card to buy something but he said he will pay u the money back. -
yeah i apologised already. but..
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Actually if you look at information and leave it as it is, you are not stealing it. Even if you remember every bit of it.
You can steal a piece of paper, but not the information on it.
Therefore if you look at a piece of paper, remember the info on it, and return the paper. You cannot be charged for theft of information. For the info is returned together with the paper.
Same goes for the handphone.
The handphone can be classified as a electronic storage device, i.e. a computer. But the law is concerned about the misuse of the computer. So if you use you MP3 for illegal purposes, you can still be charged for misuse of the computer.
But the handphone will be viewed like a paper diary, i.e. the item found, contents look at, the item returned.
Therefore no theft.
What about legal restrains?
Firstly what legal relationship do you have with the girl?
You do not have a employer/employee relationship for her to impose on you.
You also do not have a contractual relationship. There is no contract between the both of you. You did not give her any assurances.
What you have is a social contract, which is not legally binding.
She have nothing on you. Just her accusations, and possibilities.
So don't sign anything. Also henceforth don't admit to anything, or even apologise.
As for the use of her handphone by you, put it as the ordinary cause of events pertaining the recovery of the handphone, and don't say much.
Don't be frightened by her.
If anything, it is she who should apply to the courts for a restraining order on you. Which I think will make the judge angry, at the lawyer.
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Reading this thread for the first time.......
Sometimes, privacy can mean the world to an individual. To some, it could mean a skirt being pulled up on the sly and being peeped at.
As a bystander, I find it extremely difficult to fault the girl as you were the one who pulled the trigger in the first place.
You peeped at her sms-es and scrolled through her contacts directory. That may look harmless to you but is actually a humongous disrespect to an individual like your friend. Doing a good deed for her does not necessarily give you a warrant browse through her mobile.
If she files a suit against you, she may have taken it too far but then again, you probably deserve it as well. -
You couldn't have put it better.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:as far as I see it,
u should just say sorry be REALLY apologetic for using her phone to make calls, picking up her calls and going through her sms
no matter how nice you were for helping her to retrieve her phone
treat it like it is 2 separate issues
she must have trusted you to ask you for help to begin with
yet her trust was misplaced
your invasion of her privacy is NOT cancelled out by doing something for her to begin with.
Imagine if you dropped your wallet and someone picked it up
and you are grateful
but later you realised this person had been going through your entire wallet
check what you have been purchasing, check the condoms you tuck inside, check the chio photo of your girlfriend, and see that your bank account only for $100, and used your cash card to buy something but he said he will pay u the money back. -
i wouldn't have felt so offed, if she just ticked me off (which she did) and i apologised pofusely for my actions.
but what she's doing seems like she's taking advantage of it. tts what i'm concerned about.
i really do feel bad, on the hindsight, but this..?
also. i don't deny i was playful, in calling our mutual friend, B. but i don't think i deserve that much also.
i wasn't malicious, i wasn't abusing the fact that since i have the hp, i used her phone to make expensive oversea calls, or sold it off, or smth. sigh.
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Did you apologise profusely before or after she threatened you with all the legal crap or before?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i wouldn't have felt so offed, if she just ticked me off (which she did) and i apologised pofusely for my actions.
but what she's doing seems like she's taking advantage of it. tts what i'm concerned about.
i really do feel bad, on the hindsight, but this..?
also. i don't deny i was playful. but i don't think i deserve that much also.
i wasn't malicious, i wasn't abusing the fact that since i have the hp, i used her phone to make expensive oversea calls, or sold it off, or smth. sigh.
but lesson learnt.
If the first time she was upset and she approached you
you gave her all the "i'm really sorry loh BUT HEYYY looked WHO helped you FIRST!"
then i'm not surprised if she does not accept the apology.
you were not malicious but you did abuse her trust. In fact, to begin with, by describing her as friend of a friend - you seem aware that you not so close to begin with, therefore even less excuse to transgress.
I'm sorry that she is handling this matter in such a way but I hope the lesson you feel you have learnt is to respect other people's belongings - instead of might as well don't help people if there is going to be so much trouble. -
i apologised before.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:Did you apologise profusely before or after she threatened you with all the legal crap or before?
If the first time she was upset and she approached you
you gave her all the "i'm really sorry loh BUT HEYYY looked WHO helped you FIRST!"
then i'm not surprised if she does not accept the apology.
you were not malicious but you did abuse her trust. In fact, to begin with, by describing her as friend of a friend - you seem aware that you not so close to begin with, therefore even less excuse to transgress.
I'm sorry that she is handling this matter in such a way but I hope the lesson you feel you have learnt is to respect other people's belongings - instead of might as well don't help people if there is going to be so much trouble.
i didn't even say anything about me helping her and all that. i mean, i was wrong mah. so i apologised.
then she called me the next day and started the legal stuff. -
Oh well.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i apologised before.
i didn't even say anything about me helping her and all that. i mean, i was wrong mah. so i apologised.
then she called me the next day and started the legal stuff.
Its tough luck that she is resorting to this to protect herself. She must feel very strongly about her privacy if she needs to go to so much trouble. -
One thing for sure, this friendship is off.
Let her cool down and apologise again. Some friends can be very ruthless but it's their every prerogative to do so. -
nth wrong with being ruthless.. but if she's going to do what some of you guys are thinking.
take advantage of the situation to muscle me into being her slave or something.. that's too much -
You had no real criminal intention and motive according to your side of the story.
I advise u don't sign it lor.
Picking up the phone calls like you said you just merely wanted to take a message for her or wad..
but in any case you still lose on the fact that you went through her sms in the first place.. that was an act of mischief.. but still don't sign it la -.-
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yeah ok. should i let her know that i won't sign it or just plain ignore her