Is fighting an act of passion or an unacceptable act?
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TS is not her father.Originally posted by Zarks:slap is love when it comes to parental. i did read somewhere that they claimed its more efficient if you have some nice slap (not on face) or just simply hit the child lightly (pain but not too much pain inflicted to them) and they will be most probablly obedient and bear in mind of waht is wrong in future. Nowadays child are just so stubborn and its hard to let them bear in mind of wat we warn them. Dun blame me, i just read the facts. Facts tell everything, not sure if nowadays the method of teaching the child to behave has become more verbal
if i have a daughter, and her bf slap her for something she did terrible, that is ok for me, dont u wish your daughter to get some1 who knows that your daughter is doing very bad things and he take initiative to make her realised what she did was wrong?
if for lame excuse and her bf slap her for stupid reason, i myself will kill him lol.
Like i said everything has the limit, just need to see how much.
So you will let your daughter's bf slap her ?
What may seem punishable to her bf, may not be the same for you.
You as the father should be protecting your daughter, not let another man violate her body.
Physical punishment only serves to intimidate, you cannot make a person reasonable with violence. -
Lets talk about ur 'Defense Mechanism'Originally posted by abterror:Dint' beat her. There is once i just push her. She fell and she cried like a baby.
There is another time when i tried to hold her, she tried to stomp my feet with her heel. maybe she was trying to warn me, but subconsciencely, my defence mechaniam just went off, and i pin her down with the hand lock. and ask " what are u trying to do?" Well, she yell and said "pain, pain"
I let go and was in a lost, thinking wat had i done.
I massage her shoulders and she weep as usual.
To me, i hold no grudges, but to her, it was over.
Perhaps we were meant to be.
Tons of things to learn from this experience.
U some kind of commando or something ? The situation is not a direct threat to your life . And she is not some enemy combatant. If i were to accidently tap ur shoulders from behind, will u suddenly turn around.. bring me down on my knees , do a sleeper hold and break my neck ?
Have to control a bit , u not in hostile environment , ur training wouldve taught u to be more disciplined, and civilians got no chance against u in hand 2 hand combat . Not to mention a girl... =S .
But since its over , then so be it. What to do , obviously she was taken back suddenly and to most women , its something they wont let off so easily. hurting them emotionally is as bad , physically will be AS bad or even worse. But i gotta admit , the heels.. it hurts man. I got it once, even with shoes it @ss hurts like hell.
but yeah.. maybe u should try to be a little bit more careful , later ur 'defence mechanism' pushes her off the stairs u end up breaking her neck. -
Originally posted by jojobeach:
What is wrong with being a slave of love , when one is happy being one.
>> It takes 2 to clap. Some are givers and some are partners whom prefer to work out hand in hand.
jojo>>> then u need to find someone who fits your requirement.
You pushed her, she whack you. What is the use ? Emotions, pride and feelings are hurt, both ways.
>> Her ex husband also end up hitting her. Hence she flare up easily in faces of physical contact, and will result in a auto activation of defence machanism.
But when a guy react to auto defence machanism = agressive person.
jojo>>> according to you, she attacks your property, but you attacked her.
You need to learn how to communicate better.
>> too many things left unsettle, hence it become a bomb.
jojo>>> Then settle the problems.
When a woman is angry with you, don't try to reason with her.
Let her cool down first.
>> i let her cool down and when i find her, she was with another man whom she said she will not have interest in. *ensured me when i was with her*
jojo>>> Is she worthy of your trust ?
You may think she always want her ways, she thinks you always want your ways.
>> agree. i see for verbal communication but she seek tat it is the end.
jojo>>> is that the reason why you justified using physical punishment on her ?
When two party is yelling , who is listening ?
>> she yells, not me. when i wanna talk things out.
[b]jojo>>> If she yells at you, just keep quiet and walk away. Talk things out another day. Tell her, you will only listen if she is not yelling. Learn how to program your woman.
i have heard of the saying ' when 2 person are together, they will know one another's weakness and tend to attack them when conflict arise."
i guess everyone does tat.
jojo>>> Yes, we know the weaknesses and we know their strength. That works both ways, if you understand her, what makes her click, you'd know how to handle her, properly.
Ask yourself, what is more important ?
The need to be right or your relationship with this woman?
>> Both. Law is needed for a balance in the society. It is needed in order to keep things in place. Give and take.
Jojo>>> unfortunately for you, it cannot be done. You have to choose one. Or you leave her and find another one.[/b]
I agree, especially the parts that are underlined. If you want to be with such a woman, you must learn how to handle her. -
Yes it is indeed a blessing in disguise.Originally posted by abterror:ya. i hoped that she will ton down her temper in a couple of years.
But it never come to my mind of 20 years. lol
Perhaps to end was really a blessing in disguise.
You're the man, the one who is suppose to protect her, not hurt her. -
agreed..Originally posted by jojobeach:You're the man, the one who is suppose to protect her, not hurt her.
who will hurt the one they love?
unless of course.. -
Oh no, i dun slap men, if let say my bf betrayed me and go with another gal, I promise i will not slap him, but I will kick his priicccky, then he bent down in pain, then i give my famous Power (curry) puff gals Upper jap on the lower jaw and sent him to Block nos 9, SGH.Originally posted by blu_sky:No one has said that gals can slap men. No, girls cant slap men and men should never lay his hands on girls.
If a man lay his hands on a girl, i will ask the girl to leave him. And vice versa. That is equality. no?
And if a man lay his hands on me, depend on where he lay, if shoulder tapping as a gesture of fren, i dun mind, but if he touches my private parts, again, I will give him my famous Singapore Curry puff gals jab. -
yes, no one has said anything bout gals can slap men.Originally posted by blu_sky:No one has said that gals can slap men. No, girls cant slap men and men should never lay his hands on girls.
If a man lay his hands on a girl, i will ask the girl to leave him. And vice versa. That is equality. no?
well its very normal to most ppl that we guys cannot harm gals by any physical means. But honestly most gal especially my frens thinks gal can slap or hit or bully men but men cannot bully them. I asked why and they always replied men should be gentleman and i talked bout unfair and they dun bother much cuz in their head, men can never beat them at all but they can.
like i said it always depend on how much of physical harm to anyone especially your partner. If the situation is serious where the partner has done something wrong and doesnt want to improve or be on the right track, i do think as a bf who really love his partner can give her nice slap on body but not face to remind her of the wrong way.
Dont tell me you will advice the gal to leave her bf for making the gal to be aware of wat is the right way ?
THE same goes for gal who want to remind their partner of the same case.
Will anyone advice the guy to leave to gal ? or the gal to leave the guy
Everything depends on the situation.
btw, TS just pushed her and never beat her.. if the push is also included in touch, then should the gal leave him when the gals herself seems to be wrong in the 1st place perhaps?
Pushing is still ok compared to slapping. Perhaps TS knw slapping her gal when he was angry will definately cause bloody harm to the gal and he avoided it by just pushing her? -
She cried like a baby because it HURTS.Originally posted by abterror:Dint' beat her. There is once i just push her. She fell and she cried like a baby.
There is another time when i tried to hold her, she tried to stomp my feet with her heel. maybe she was trying to warn me, but subconsciencely, my defence mechaniam just went off, and i pin her down with the hand lock. and ask " what are u trying to do?" Well, she yell and said "pain, pain"
I let go and was in a lost, thinking wat had i done.
I massage her shoulders and she weep as usual.
To me, i hold no grudges, but to her, it was over.
Perhaps we were meant to be.
Tons of things to learn from this experience.
So instead of using your army training on the enemy, you used it on your girl ?
Geesh. -
Originally posted by Zarks:
To begin with, why are you hanging out with such friends?
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yes, no one has said anything bout gals can slap men.
well its very normal to most ppl that we guys cannot harm gals by any physical means. But honestly most gal especially my frens thinks gal can slap or hit or bully men but men cannot bully them. I asked why and they always replied men should be gentleman and i talked bout unfair and they dun bother much cuz in their head, men can never beat them at all but they can.
like i said it always depend on how much of physical harm to anyone especially your partner. If the situation is serious where the partner has done something wrong and doesnt want to improve or be on the right track, i do think as a bf who really love his partner can give her nice slap on body but not face to remind her of the wrong way.
Dont tell me you will advice the gal to leave her bf for making the gal to be aware of wat is the right way ?
THE same goes for gal who want to remind their partner of the same case.
Will anyone advice the guy to leave to gal ? or the gal to leave the guy
Everything depends on the situation.[b] -
Nice slap ? whats that ? lol... the only time a 'slapped' my girl.. is when no one is watching i give her a naughty 'spank'Originally posted by Zarks:yes, no one has said anything bout gals can slap men.
well its very normal to most ppl that we guys cannot harm gals by any physical means. But honestly most gal especially my frens thinks gal can slap or hit or bully men but men cannot bully them. I asked why and they always replied men should be gentleman and i talked bout unfair and they dun bother much cuz in their head, men can never beat them at all but they can.
like i said it always depend on how much of physical harm to anyone especially your partner. If the situation is serious where the partner has done something wrong and doesnt want to improve or be on the right track, i do think as a bf who really love his partner can give her nice slap on body but not face to remind her of the wrong way.
Dont tell me you will advice the gal to leave her bf for making the gal to be aware of wat is the right way ?
THE same goes for gal who want to remind their partner of the same case.
Will anyone advice the guy to leave to gal ? or the gal to leave the guy
Everything depends on the situation.
btw, TS just pushed her and never beat her.. if the push is also included in touch, then should the gal leave him when the gals herself seems to be wrong in the 1st place perhaps?
Pushing is still ok compared to slapping. Perhaps TS knw slapping her gal when he was angry will definately cause bloody harm to the gal and he avoided it by just pushing her?
Anyways la.. push or not , if she gets physically hurt because of ur actions still not good ma. That slender body , smooth skin... pretty face. man.. cannot cannot.
Girls believe they acn hit n slap cause physically we are bigger, tougher ma , even though women has high pain threshhold , its the way we are. Men. N if u tell her it really REALLY hurts , like when they start biting leaving teeth marks , biting ur arms , biceps or chests.. it hurts lo. u tell them , they will stop de. If u dun tell them they will assume u so tough. So .. yeah, he he.. depends u wanna act macho tough.. or let them know u hurt like a sissy boy too. he he... -
>> agree. i tried my best. perhaps it was not meant to be. for me i seek a balance. For guys, if you pamper ur woman too much = torturing life in future.Originally posted by jojobeach:What is wrong with being a slave of love , when one is happy being one.
>> It takes 2 to clap. Some are givers and some are partners whom prefer to work out hand in hand.
jojo>>> then u need to find someone who fits your requirement.
>> it take a few years to know a person. the first 2 years is usually the honeymoon period. unless once u step in , u have a long list of questionaire for her to fill in. In my view, she is ok in all aspect, except her killer temper.
You pushed her, she whack you. What is the use ? Emotions, pride and feelings are hurt, both ways.
>> Her ex husband also end up hitting her. Hence she flare up easily in faces of physical contact, and will result in a auto activation of defence machanism.
But when a guy react to auto defence machanism = agressive person.
jojo>>> according to you, she attacks your property, but you attacked her.
>>attack sound agressive. how about "enough is enough, watch ur limit"
You need to learn how to communicate better.
>> too many things left unsettle, hence it become a bomb.
jojo>>> Then settle the problems.
>> too late. lesson learned.
When a woman is angry with you, don't try to reason with her.
Let her cool down first.
>> i let her cool down and when i find her, she was with another man whom she said she will not have interest in. *ensured me when i was with her*
jojo>>> Is she worthy of your trust ?
>> when one is down, it create a space for another to go into. she choose to believe and listen to this guy whom is a savior and understanding person at tat pt of time. and if she can lie to me and twist her words, she has changed and is brain washed by him. perhaps it was an act of revenge. but no. not worth my trust. I have done my part to hold back this relationship.She choose to end it, so i respect her decision.
You may think she always want her ways, she thinks you always want your ways.
>> agree. i see for verbal communication but she seek tat it is the end.
jojo>>> is that the reason why you justified using physical punishment on her ?
>> No, only when she push her luck too far. The thing i previously mention was the end.
When two party is yelling , who is listening ?
>> she yells, not me. when i wanna talk things out.
jojo>>> If she yells at you, just keep quiet and walk away. Talk things out another day. Tell her, you will only listen if she is not yelling. Learn how to program your woman.
>> is woman ever rational when they are piss? This one is not. i believe everyone is a unique individual and i dun believe in programming them. she is even older than me. i will say my part, if she dun wanna listen. so be it. Let her be the hands of god and do everything tat deems right .
i have heard of the saying ' when 2 person are together, they will know one another's weakness and tend to attack them when conflict arise."
i guess everyone does tat.
jojo>>> Yes, we know the weaknesses and we know their strength. That works both ways, if you understand her, what makes her click, you'd know how to handle her, properly.
>> out of control i guess. too many things left unsettled.
Ask yourself, what is more important ?
The need to be right or your relationship with this woman?
>> Both. Law is needed for a balance in the society. It is needed in order to keep things in place. Give and take.
Jojo>>> unfortunately for you, it cannot be done. You have to choose one. Or you leave her and find another one.
Like my sister expect her hubby to treat her like wat she used to treat her when she was wooing her. When is it ever enough? -
The woman may not be always right.Originally posted by jojobeach:TS is not her father.
So you will let your daughter's bf slap her ?
What may seem punishable to her bf, may not be the same for you.
You as the father should be protecting your daughter, not let another man violate her body.
Physical punishment only serves to intimidate, you cannot make a person reasonable with violence.
Can hubby slap wife?
Is it acceptable?
I find slap = enough!
if i do something which is too much, jojo can slap me too.
No hard feelings. it is in the motive of your actions.
Now who fits to do it -
Being violent is slippery slope.Originally posted by Zarks:btw, TS just pushed her and never beat her.. if the push is also included in touch, then should the gal leave him when the gals herself seems to be wrong in the 1st place perhaps?
Pushing is still ok compared to slapping. Perhaps TS knw slapping her gal when he was angry will definately cause bloody harm to the gal and he avoided it by just pushing her?
This time, a man pushed his woman and she shuts up and behave. Next time, pushing does now work anymore, what will the man do?
Think. -
Everything depends. if there is logic that her bf should slap her, then i wont mind. Being a parents shouldnt protect their son or daughter if they do something wrong.. that is just pampering them and they will tend to do moreOriginally posted by jojobeach:TS is not her father.
So you will let your daughter's bf slap her ?
What may seem punishable to her bf, may not be the same for you.
You as the father should be protecting your daughter, not let another man violate her body.
Physical punishment only serves to intimidate, you cannot make a person reasonable with violence.
but if i cant accept the reason, i wil myself do something, i did say that earlier.
Physical violence depends on how you inflict physical damage to some1.
I said it again earlier, even if you wanna slap some1, not nessasarily need to slap face. Slapping to the face is unacceptable. but slap or watever to the body but not punch will still acceptable. TO me pushing is still acceptable rather than slapping to the face. -
Why are you always think about slapping a woman? Is violence the only answer to you in every situation?Originally posted by abterror:The woman may not be always right.
Can hubby slap wife?
Is it acceptable? -
Don't start something if you cannot finish it.Originally posted by abterror:>> agree. i tried my best. perhaps it was not meant to be. for me i seek a balance. For guys, if you pamper ur woman too much = torturing life in future.
Like my sister expect her hubby to treat her like wat she used to treat her when she was wooing her. When is it ever enough?
So in your opinion, being nice to your girl should stop once both of you get married ?
How wrong can you be ?
Wooing and chasing is the easy part.
Keeping a marriage alive after many years is the real challenge.
I believe you need to rethink what a relationship is all about. -
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NO.Originally posted by abterror:The woman may not be always right.
Can hubby slap wife?
Is it acceptable?
I find slap = enough!
if i do something which is too much, jojo can slap me too.
No hard feelings. it is in the motive of your actions.
Now who fits to do it
Do you enjoy slapping your wife ?
Do you really want to see your wife hurting ?
Violence does NOT solve anything ! -
It has to do with the society belief.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Lets talk about ur 'Defense Mechanism'
U some kind of commando or something ? The situation is not a direct threat to your life . And she is not some enemy combatant. If i were to accidently tap ur shoulders from behind, will u suddenly turn around.. bring me down on my knees , do a sleeper hold and break my neck ? Have to control a bit , u not in hostile environment , ur training wouldve taught u to be more disciplined, and civilians got no chance against u in hand 2 hand combat . Not to mention a girl... =S .
But since its over , then so be it. What to do , obviously she was taken back suddenly and to most women , its something they wont let off so easily. hurting them emotionally is as bad , physically will be AS bad or even worse. But i gotta admit , the heels.. it hurts man. I got it once, even with shoes it @ss hurts like hell.
but yeah.. maybe u should try to be a little bit more careful , later ur 'defence mechanism' pushes her off the stairs u end up breaking her neck.
A guy hit a ger = crime.
A ger hit a guy = rights.
Woman charter exist to protect woman from guys' bad behavior.
but i have heard of a woman who is pregant with another guy's child when she is in separtration with her hubby. Under the law she is still his wife.
In the end, the lawyer asked her some question about moral till she breaks down and cried.
The society is every changing yet our stands are still the same.
What is right or wrong is in the eyes of the beholder. -
If your daughter falls and hit her head on something. Is that ok ?Originally posted by Zarks:Everything depends. if there is logic that her bf should slap her, then i wont mind. Being a parents shouldnt protect their son or daughter if they do something wrong.. that is just pampering them and they will tend to do more
but if i cant accept the reason, i wil myself do something, i did say that earlier.
Physical violence depends on how you inflict physical damage to some1.
I said it again earlier, even if you wanna slap some1, not nessasarily need to slap face. Slapping to the face is unacceptable. but slap or watever to the body but not punch will still acceptable. TO me pushing is still acceptable rather than slapping to the face.
What makes you so sure pampering is the culprit in every mischief ?
Slapping , is an illogical act. Full stop.
Inflicting damage to someone can be ok ? Wow. Men.......#shake head# -
She is the woman whom should support and care, not to push me off my limits~.Originally posted by jojobeach:Yes it is indeed a blessing in disguise.
You're the man, the one who is suppose to protect her, not hurt her.
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how to describe violent if TS only pushed her and not inflict serious damage to her gal like slapping or punching her till she bleeds terribly? Do not forget that everyone has their own limit and control of their own action. Even some professionals can cause harm to some1 if their anger already reached the limit.Originally posted by blu_sky:Being violent is slippery slope.
This time, a man pushed his woman and she shuts up and behave. Next time, pushing does now work anymore, what will the man do?
Think.
we cannot conclude TS will push her again nex time. You cannot judge a person negatively of what they might do in future. Maybe if pushing doenst work anymore, TS might just leave or simply break up or just fire out faulty words or anything. Your question seems to lead to negative answer or i misinterpret it? -
Why fought this useless unmeaningful fights? Just go out and bonk another people....
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ok wait.Originally posted by abterror:She is the woman whom should support and care, not to push me off my limits~.
ahahahahahahahahaahah
So she did not support you and care for you.
Then what the fark you stay in this 3 years relationship for ?
What the fark, you need to be angry with her for ?
Wait, it's just for fark sake , no ? -
I can feel her pain. someone she loved push her. it hurt both emotionally and physically.Originally posted by jojobeach:She cried like a baby because it HURTS.
So instead of using your army training on the enemy, you used it on your girl ?
Geesh.
All i wanna say is, STOP IT!!!!!
words dun get across. she was warned.
