Is fighting an act of passion or an unacceptable act?
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umm harlow?Originally posted by Zarks:how to describe violent if TS only pushed her and not inflict serious damage to her gal like slapping or punching her till she bleeds terribly? Do not forget that everyone has their own limit and control of their own action. Even some professionals can cause harm to some1 if their anger already reached the limit.
we cannot conclude TS will push her again nex time. You cannot judge a person negatively of what they might do in future. Maybe if pushing doenst work anymore, TS might just leave or simply break up or just fire out faulty words or anything. Your question seems to lead to negative answer or i misinterpret it?
TS used army techniques on her ok ? -
TS is already thinking about slapping his gf already, what do you think?Originally posted by Zarks:how to describe violent if TS only pushed her and not inflict serious damage to her gal like slapping or punching her till she bleeds terribly? Do not forget that everyone has their own limit and control of their own action. Even some professionals can cause harm to some1 if their anger already reached the limit.
we cannot conclude TS will push her again nex time. You cannot judge a person negatively of what they might do in future. Maybe if pushing doenst work anymore, TS might just leave or simply break up or just fire out faulty words or anything. Your question seems to lead to negative answer or i misinterpret it? -
I hope you will no longer use physical on anyone after this.Originally posted by abterror:I can feel her pain. someone she loved push her. it hurt both emotionally and physically.
All i wanna say is, STOP IT!!!!!
words dun get across. she was warned. -
Jut give wat u can give. Dun overgive.Originally posted by jojobeach:Don't start something if you cannot finish it.
So in your opinion, being nice to your girl should stop once both of you get married ?
How wrong can you be ?
Wooing and chasing is the easy part.
Keeping a marriage alive after many years is the real challenge.
I believe you need to rethink what a relationship is all about. -
Well, the women charter is there for a reason in the beginning. U can talk about that here . I dont mind about the charter protecting them from violence , unequal pay based on gender and all that stuff. Its issues like must have 50% female presence in senior management , and others that is a worrying trend. Why is there no 50% male in senior management ? Issues like that =)Originally posted by abterror:It has to do with the society belief.
A guy hit a ger = crime.
A ger hit a guy = rights.
Woman charter exist to protect woman from guys' bad behavior.
but i have heard of a woman who is pregant with another guy's child when she is in separtration with her hubby. Under the law she is still his wife.
In the end, the lawyer asked her some question about moral till she breaks down and cried.
The society is every changing yet our stands are still the same.
What is right or wrong is in the eyes of the beholder.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=297000
A guy hits a guy is still a crime. Its because we see another man as equal. So yeah. That is one of the main reasons. Other reasons like face , abilities.. will come in as factors that will initiate ur 'defence mechanism' so it depends how how ur 'defence mechanism' react to the reaction of the opposing side.
Well as ur case of the pregnant lady , eyes of law she is still his wife if they are not divorced , in the end is whether is HE legally viable for the sole expense of the kid alone. -
no violence, i do not condone it especially on women
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I dun enjoy. But if there is a need, i will do it.Originally posted by jojobeach:NO.
Do you enjoy slapping your wife ?
Do you really want to see your wife hurting ?
Violence does NOT solve anything !
To me, it is just a "stop it" should verbal fails and reach the limits. -
Do you know that this is how most of the world's women abusers think?Originally posted by abterror:I dun enjoy. But if there is a need, i will do it.
To me, it is just a "stop it" should verbal fails and reach the limits. -
I never said pampering is the culprit of EVERY mischief. Pampering too much and be too protective can also lead the child become used to it and become wild due to overprotection from their parents. Of course there are other factors contributes to how they behave and im just talking bout one of the possible factor. Why jump into conclusion that you think im talking bout pampering is the culprit of EVERY mischief?Originally posted by jojobeach:If your daughter falls and hit her head on something. Is that ok ?
What makes you so sure pampering is the culprit in every mischief ?
Slapping , is an illogical act. Full stop.
Inflicting damage to someone can be ok ? Wow. Men.......#shake head# -
abterror,
You attribute your violent behavior to, being pushed to the limit.
Is her behavior not also because you pushed her to the limit too?
If you deemed her behavior to be wrong, then how can you feel it to be right yourself? -
What i mean is, it is easy to demand.Originally posted by jojobeach:ok wait.
So she did not support you and care for you.
Then what the fark you stay in this 3 years relationship for ?
What the fark, you need to be angry with her for ?
Wait, it's just for fark sake , no ?
It is not easy to do.
It take 2 to clap and not solely saying the guys should do it only.
Mutually. -
army techniques? oh, perhaps i missed something. i tot i read the whole thing up.Originally posted by jojobeach:umm harlow?
TS used army techniques on her ok ? -
This is very true.Originally posted by blu_sky:Do you know that this is how most of the world's women abusers think?
Men who abuses their women, believes the women deserves to be punished.
Same in honor killings. -
well, if the situation still persist, it is evitable that history will repeat itself.Originally posted by jojobeach:I hope you will no longer use physical on anyone after this.
As wat u mentioned previously.
If it is not resolve, it will repeat. -
hitting a gal is wrong
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The moral of the story is.....Originally posted by jojobeach:abterror,
You attribute your violent behavior to, being pushed to the limit.
Is her behavior not also because you pushed her to the limit too?
If you deemed her behavior to be wrong, then how can you feel it to be right yourself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5JX7lxMZBk
you got ur pt. -
so i read and wanna conclude. COrrect me if im wrong TS.
TS Agony:
1) Frustated by how her gal behave: not understanding and supportive
2) Confused why gal and guy treated differently based on social belief
3) Pissed off and over-limit when his gal didnt try to understand why he already tried to control his anger by saying verbally 1st. ONce over limit, he exploded and try to make her realise by physical action but never beat her up or bang her in the wall or do anything nastier. But the gals seems to threaten TS to destroy this and that which for TS is valuable thing to just destroy it like that.
4) TS still let himself got punished by the gal after he pushed the gal and even still have conscious of why he did it on the 1st place and he stop doing nastier things
5) Biggest problem and confused of TS: Will this kind of fight after all these 3 years are healthy and acceptable.
TO Jojo: What army technique that u mention bout how TS used it on her gal ? Please explain. I didnt come across any army technique. Is the push down and hold her hand is army technique ?
TS,
I begin to understand more after i read several times. Fighting is not a problem ( a very common thing to happen between couples ) but u still need to be more patient if she still dun understand and keep flaming you this and that. Try to talk patiently and just let her know you dont like this fighting and you're tired of fighting all the time. Just simple tell her that you dont wanna argue cuz you dont like it. Telling her all these doesnt mean you've giving in or being timid. If scolding here and there never work, try it peacefully. And always tell her you love her and dont want this kind of thing to affect your r/s
Keep trying till she finally can understand that you never be so aggresive like u used to be. Perhaps she will be more understanding in future.
If she still be the same, mayb you can consider if you want this kind of gal as your future wife.. 3 years is some amount of time with all the happiness and arguement between you both. Since you love your gal so much, do your best to control your anger.
If you think u cant control your anger already, try other method instead of pushing her. Try to leave the place and get some puff to ease yourself before see her again . Best of luck
History will of course repeat itself if you do nothing. Dont mind so much bout giving too much. When u love some1, it doesnt mean you should give equally. Most of the time is only one party gives more. -
History may repeat itself.Originally posted by abterror:well, if the situation still persist, it is evitable that history will repeat itself.
As wat u mentioned previously.
If it is not resolve, it will repeat.
But there can be a different ending to it. -
"There is another time when i tried to hold her, she tried to stomp my feet with her heel. maybe she was trying to warn me, but subconsciencely, my defence mechaniam just went off, and i pin her down with the hand lock. and ask " what are u trying to do?" Well, she yell and said "pain, pain"Originally posted by Zarks:TO Jojo: What army technique that u mention bout how TS used it on her gal ? Please explain. I didnt come across any army technique. Is the push down and hold her hand is army technique ?
I let go and was in a lost, thinking wat had i done.
I massage her shoulders and she weep as usual.
To me, i hold no grudges, but to her, it was over."
Do you ever see a woman pin her man down ? -
coward.
y u so farked up de.
pik sumone ur strength lah. -
How can u stop this then?Originally posted by jojobeach:"There is another time when i tried to hold her, she tried to stomp my feet with her heel. maybe she was trying to warn me, but subconsciencely, my defence mechaniam just went off, and i pin her down with the hand lock. and ask " what are u trying to do?" Well, she yell and said "pain, pain"
I let go and was in a lost, thinking wat had i done.
I massage her shoulders and she weep as usual.
To me, i hold no grudges, but to her, it was over."
Do you ever see a woman pin her man down ?
Was trying to stop her from inflicting more damage.
From peace mode to hostile situation. -
And damage to what ? Your precious Ipod ?Originally posted by abterror:How can u stop this then?
Was trying to stop her from inflicting more damage.
From peace mode to hostile situation. -
okay, pinning her down with hand lock is one of army technique? Perhaps i see it differently.Originally posted by jojobeach:"There is another time when i tried to hold her, she tried to stomp my feet with her heel. maybe she was trying to warn me, but subconsciencely, my defence mechaniam just went off, and i pin her down with the hand lock. and ask " what are u trying to do?" Well, she yell and said "pain, pain"
I let go and was in a lost, thinking wat had i done.
I massage her shoulders and she weep as usual.
To me, i hold no grudges, but to her, it was over."
Do you ever see a woman pin her man down ?
Hope TS have good future with his gal. -
To my feet.Originally posted by jojobeach:And damage to what ? Your precious Ipod ?
She has done it before.
Situation : Hostile.
Reaction : What r u trying to do.
Being naive is the best.
U dun know wat i coming. -
And why do you need to restrain her ?Originally posted by abterror:To my feet.
She has done it before.
Situation : Hostile.
Reaction : What r u trying to do.
Being naive is the best.
U dun know wat i coming.
All you need to do was just let her go.