Opinion on my life story
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
even when the DIL is wacking ur son balls so hard that he cant reproduce?
He got to be his own man, can't let let his old man take the punch.
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
they say itis impolite to be asking for a lady age...
so may i inquire just how young you are?
What makes you think I am lady?
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Originally posted by angel3070:
What makes you think I am lady?
u have a ger pic and u ask abt pet training....
havent met a guy that ask such stuff.... yet...
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Ask your father to wake up his bloody old thinking.
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Originally posted by angel3070:
What makes you think I am lady?
your mother angel7030 told us that you are a lady
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
He got to be his own man, can't let let his old man take the punch.
why not? doubt his old man need the balls as much as him...
then again, for ppl like him... itis better that he ish without his balls..
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
u have a ger pic and u ask abt pet training....
Have you seen guys putting up lady posters in their bedrooms?
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Have you seen guys putting up lady posters in their bedrooms?
that is for own pleasure.....
avatar on the other hand is for others viewing.....
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i wonder wat angel did to automator
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
why not? doubt his old man need the balls as much as him...
then again, for ppl like him... itis better that he ish without his balls..
If old man keep by his side like MM, this is obsession.
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
i wonder wat angel did to automator
Nothing much.
She just told me that she is a whore and ask me how much I can pay her to have sex with her
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Originally posted by automator:
Nothing much.
She just told me that she is a whore and ask me how much I can pay her to have sex with her
so not deal gone sour?
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
If old man keep by his side like MM, this is obsession.
okie.. u lost me there....
wat MM... M&N i know...
those that melt in ur month but not ur hand.....
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Frankly, whether one is a Xtian or Taoist or .... is unimportant lar. What matters is whether one can understand, acknowledge and yet transcend one's bigotry, one's prejudice(s) and reconcile to the differences, the beliefs .... and yet relate to what others are. In this instance, your father is a 'conditioned' person and to change him or impose or even assert one's belief or ... is utterly foolish and unwise.
One who is mature and wise would understand and just go thru the ritual. Of course, it presupposes one has no fear of losing what thinks one is. What one thinks is not what one is. what one is BEING - is the true expereince.
It is the fear of losing (the religious belief) that is causing these melodrama or if u will, the psychodrama.
Without understanding, she may relent and do what your father or even u want her to do. However, it is going to later surface as a grievance. If she understands and acknowledges her insecurities, fears .... she may be acquiescent.
Maturity is acceptance of another's immaturity! The question is whether one is being mature or ....
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
okie.. u lost me there....
wat MM... M&N i know...
those that melt in ur month but not ur hand.....
M&M?
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qop = queen of pain?
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
so not deal gone sour?
Me told her foreign whore are cheaper than her so no deal
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Originally posted by QoP:
hi all, this is my first post and i'm seeking for some opinions and reasoning on my problems.
here it goes,
I'm just married my long time girlfriend and til now we are having very good relationship. plenty of privacy and space and yet we shared a lot of stuff among us :). But things gotten a bit complicated for my father. My wife is a christian, but i'm not and neither is my parents. My wife has NEVER insisted on me or my parents to be christian as she truly believe that one has their right in their belief. However, my father insisted her to perform the chinese ritual and of course she has to take the joss stick, if not he will "disown" me. As for myself i truly believe that each has their right on religious belief, so i stand-by her and tell my father to go ahead. ( and in fact i dun really care for my father and what he is planning to do, and i wrote this to ensure that the story above is not "onesided" favouring just me ). However my mother, ( and no... i certainly care a lot for her ) is stuck in-between unfortuately.On top of that, my father stops my mother from visiting if not he will chase him out of the flat. ( BUT this is NOT a problem as i can well afford to take care of my mum and i WILL and so does my wife)
Now, assuming that u are in my situation, which would u choose, force your wife to take the joss stick, ( which i believe if i'm forceful enough, she will do ) or just ignore my father and continues this saga.
As for me, i pick the latter. And if i ever pick the first option, i will prefer to divorce her and suicide then to do that :) and i have no fear for death if i have to bring suffering to my love one and in a WRONG immoral ways
Do tell me your opinions thanks :)
I believe everybody got their rights to believe/practice in their own religion.It's not able not showing respect to elders anot. Tell yr father if someone force him go church and worship God , how will he feel?
I believe yr wife will do it , if he really request her to do it. But how can u do that to yr wife when she never forces u to believe in her own religion. She believes everybody shall practice their religion freely. U shall stand by her this belief and be responsible to yr wife too.
I support yr picking of first option. Wise choice!
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its easier to convince a young one than a hag
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ppl posting and now its became 7030 flame war again (- -)..............
alamak.....................................
another wan woman dont wan parent case .......................
ask yr wife hands to touch some joss stick will die ma ....?????
cannot humble yr parent ....... a bit after feeding u for so big ??????
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Originally posted by QoP:
hi all, this is my first post and i'm seeking for some opinions and reasoning on my problems.
here it goes,
I'm just married my long time girlfriend and til now we are having very good relationship. plenty of privacy and space and yet we shared a lot of stuff among us :). But things gotten a bit complicated for my father. My wife is a christian, but i'm not and neither is my parents. My wife has NEVER insisted on me or my parents to be christian as she truly believe that one has their right in their belief. However, my father insisted her to perform the chinese ritual and of course she has to take the joss stick, if not he will "disown" me. As for myself i truly believe that each has their right on religious belief, so i stand-by her and tell my father to go ahead. ( and in fact i dun really care for my father and what he is planning to do, and i wrote this to ensure that the story above is not "onesided" favouring just me ). However my mother, ( and no... i certainly care a lot for her ) is stuck in-between unfortuately.On top of that, my father stops my mother from visiting if not he will chase him out of the flat. ( BUT this is NOT a problem as i can well afford to take care of my mum and i WILL and so does my wife)
Now, assuming that u are in my situation, which would u choose, force your wife to take the joss stick, ( which i believe if i'm forceful enough, she will do ) or just ignore my father and continues this saga.
As for me, i pick the latter. And if i ever pick the first option, i will prefer to divorce her and suicide then to do that :) and i have no fear for death if i have to bring suffering to my love one and in a WRONG immoral ways
Do tell me your opinions thanks :)
Your father is a manipulative and controlling person. And he is simply trying to extend his control to your future wife.
If I am your gf, I will reconsider about marrying into your family.
After married, will your wife be required to live with your family ? If she does, she will be in for a bad marriage due to her in-laws ( your family). A controlling in-law and a weak spouse is recipe for a lot of family conflicts. As she will be the one giving in to your family demand all the time.
Are you going for a christian church wedding and a traditional chinese wedding ?
If you are only doing the traditional chinese, and not the church wedding, that means your wife has already compromised, how much more do you want her to give in ? After all, it is her wedding too you know.
Forcing a joss stick on anyone does not equate to achieving filial piety.
There are other ways to pay respect to your ancestors.
A joss stick is merely a tool for a believer.
What is disturbing, is not what "item/object" your father wants her to hold.
Rather his underlying purpose in forcing her to take something he know is against her religious beliefs.
Perhaps, by you and your wife giving in, it re-enforced his standing as one who is still in "control".
Or, using the joss stick saga, is his own passive aggresive way of disapproving the union.
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filial piety is a good thing - but when it is use to force someone to do something it is bad !!! Doing it in the name of filial piety is still dumb !!! Since your father is at it, ask him to force you to rob the bank !!!
Your wife have her right to her religion - your father or you have no rights to force her to do things against her rights. When you take her as your wife - your vow was to love her and protect her - not force her !!!Frankly if your father want to live in dark ages - then so be it .
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Originally posted by Hwaimeng:
another wan woman dont wan parent case .......................
ask yr wife hands to touch some joss stick will die ma ....?????
cannot humble yr parent ....... a bit after feeding u for so big ??????
You forgetting his wife also got her own parents to humble ? What will her parents think, about her father in-law "forcing" her to take the joss stick against her wishes ?
A marriage is a meeting of two minds, not one sided affair ok.
TS is marrying a wife.. he didn't BUY that girl from her family.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
You forgetting his wife also got her own parents to humble ? What will her parents think, about her father in-law "forcing" her to take the joss stick against her wishes ?
A marriage is a meeting of two minds, not one sided affair ok.
TS is marrying a wife.. he didn't BUY that girl from her family.
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Originally posted by QoP:
hi all, this is my first post and i'm seeking for some opinions and reasoning on my problems.
here it goes,
I'm just married my long time girlfriend and til now we are having very good relationship. plenty of privacy and space and yet we shared a lot of stuff among us :). But things gotten a bit complicated for my father. My wife is a christian, but i'm not and neither is my parents. My wife has NEVER insisted on me or my parents to be christian as she truly believe that one has their right in their belief. However, my father insisted her to perform the chinese ritual and of course she has to take the joss stick, if not he will "disown" me. As for myself i truly believe that each has their right on religious belief, so i stand-by her and tell my father to go ahead. ( and in fact i dun really care for my father and what he is planning to do, and i wrote this to ensure that the story above is not "onesided" favouring just me ). However my mother, ( and no... i certainly care a lot for her ) is stuck in-between unfortuately.On top of that, my father stops my mother from visiting if not he will chase him out of the flat. ( BUT this is NOT a problem as i can well afford to take care of my mum and i WILL and so does my wife)
Now, assuming that u are in my situation, which would u choose, force your wife to take the joss stick, ( which i believe if i'm forceful enough, she will do ) or just ignore my father and continues this saga.
As for me, i pick the latter. And if i ever pick the first option, i will prefer to divorce her and suicide then to do that :) and i have no fear for death if i have to bring suffering to my love one and in a WRONG immoral ways
Do tell me your opinions thanks :)
TS.....Basically you have to answer this to yourself......what do you believe and make a decision and still be able to sleep at night?
If you believe that your Wife have the freedom to remain as a christian than you have to make a Stand to your FATHER. (Your Father is basically a selfish Jerk...there are plenty of Parent who never know how to let go... your dad is not alone)
Ultimately you have to put your lives with your wife First. Learned to protect your new found lives with your new spouse. Overtime your wife would appreciate more of you. And she will learned to respect for the relationship between you and between parents.
You are Basically establishing boundary between you and your Parents so not to worry about not respecting elderly crap argument. At the sametime it allow your wife to establish boundary with her side of the family.
If your Dad is worried about nobody worship him after he kicks the bucket just said you will still be faithful to his believe.
Move on go now and have kids. Cheers!