Fools rush in
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
i am not speaking from experience so it does not matter what my relationship experiences are.
quote of the day
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
I never take women as an object. But women is the subject of discussion here.
I do not deny women have the same obligation to read men. But women are much better than men at doing that. My wish is to adivse men, not women.
If the man is trained to read situations and recognise problems early on if any, he will know what he is getting into if he decides to go into marriage with a woman. But majority of men do not know how to.
Actually whats the point of being trained. Applying a technique would lead to exactly the problem that you want to avoid. Because it is not being honest. Also its akin to hunting. Only womanisers would want a sure fire technique.
To each his or her own.
Best is to be one own self. Warts and all.
Trying to fit into a mold is very uncomfortable for both parties. And this always lead to breakups.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Actually whats the point of being trained. Applying a technique would lead to exactly the problem that you want to avoid. Because it is not being honest. Also its akin to hunting. Only womanisers would want a sure fire technique.
To each his or her own.
Best is to be one own self. Warts and all.
Trying to fit into a mold is very uncomfortable for both parties. And this always lead to breakups.
Its the lack of training which leads to all the problems. No one is born knowing anything. Everything has to be learnt. Just like we need to learn the alphabet.
If men were absolutely happy and suffer no confusion being themselves, i would not urge them to be anything else. But being themselves doesnt work, they end up in pain, getting dumped, loveless marriage, divorces.
Any man who is serious about dating/marriage needs a plan. Before you go into battle, you need a plan. You don't just go in blindly and hope that the enemy is weak and let you walk all over them. Before you start a business, you need to do market research. You don't just open a shop and hope for the best.
When we had to learn alphabet in kindergarten, i'm sure it was very uncomfortable too. Now that we all know it so well, it becomes second nature. Discipline to delight. Anything that's worth it will be uncomfortable, in the beginning.
Sometimes break up is not a bad thing. if a man or woman is not relationship material, its better not to prolong the suffering.
If you keep doing something in the same way and hope for different results, its called insanity.
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Training lol. Theres no standard set of training. How much training is enought training. It all boils down to the persons attitude and character. How much is he willing to give and take. Explaining to such fine details is just fail. Its all experience and how well you handle human relationships.
If perhaps training, you mean sharing your own experiences and encounters. But i wont call that training.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
Training lol. Theres no standard set of training. How much training is enought training. It all boils down to the persons attitude and character. How much is he willing to give and take. Explaining to such fine details is just fail. Its all experience and how well you handle human relationships.
If perhaps training, you mean sharing your own experiences and encounters. But i wont call that training.
If there is standard set of training, no men would be confused and suffering. and all marriages would be happily ever after. but there are definitely principles that have to followed. those principles can be taught through various methods or specific training. sharing experiences and telling stories of scenarios is one way of training.
guys prefer info that is detailed and precise. when he fixes a model airplane the instruction manual says exactly which piece goes where. it doesn't say, well, there are five parts that make up the wing, here they are, go figure it out yourself.
if the man doesn't even have any idea what he is doing is right or wrong, how can he gain experience? everytime he does something wrong and gets dumped, he just thinks that women are crazy and illogical, and he goes on to the next girl doing the exact same thing he done with the previous girl and gets dumped again. the thought that maybe he is doing something wrong never cross his mind at all. and mistakes keep getting repeated from one girl to the other. until he finally marries one girl, and get divorced or stay in a loveless marriage because he has 3 kids to raise and 30 year mortage loan to service and neither he or the wife can afford a divorce at that stage in their life.
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
If there is standard set of training, no men would be confused and suffering. and all marriages would be happily ever after. but there are definitely principles that have to followed. those principles can be taught through various methods or specific training. sharing experiences and telling stories of scenarios is one way of training.
guys prefer info that is detailed and precise. when he fixes a model airplane the instruction manual says exactly which piece goes where. it doesn't say, well, there are five parts that make up the wing, here they are, go figure it out yourself.
if the man doesn't even have any idea what he is doing is right or wrong, how can he gain experience? everytime he does something wrong and gets dumped, he just thinks that women are crazy and illogical, and he goes on to the next girl doing the exact same thing he done with the previous girl and gets dumped again. the thought that maybe he is doing something wrong never cross his mind at all. and mistakes keep getting repeated from one girl to the other. until he finally marries one girl, and get divorced or stay in a loveless marriage because he has 3 kids to raise and 30 year mortage loan to service and neither he or the wife can afford a divorce at that stage in their life.
Do YOU come with a detailed instruction manual ?
Are you a guy that we can "train" to handle ?
Do you have mood indicators for your partner to read ?
Red = Angry.
Blue= Calm
Green= Jealous/envy
etc... etc.... Maybe you should invent a machine that can...eh ?
The KEY to maintaining a harmonious relationship is the ability to " ADAPT".
When you were born.. you don't come with an instruction manual.
You can't even speak.
Your parents had to take visual cues and learn to understand you.
Your cries.. and your body movements.. are cues your parents had to figure out so that they can fulfill your needs.
Yet.. all babies are unique in their little own way.
When you deal with adult human.. you do no different..
You may be thinking.. but we are not babies.. we are adults. I can assure you.. there are lots more similarities than we want to admit.
The only difference is.. an adult can speak.. but they don't always speak their mind or mean what they say....so we go back to the basics.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
Do YOU come with a detailed instruction manual ?
Are you a guy that we can "train" to handle ?
Do you have mood indicators for your partner to read ?
Red = Angry.
Blue= Calm
Green= Jealous/envy
etc... etc.... Maybe you should invent a machine that can...eh ?
The KEY to maintaining a harmonious relationship is the ability to " ADAPT".
When you were born.. you don't come with an instruction manual.
You can't even speak.
Your parents had to take visual cues and learn to understand you.
Your cries.. and your body movements.. are cues your parents had to figure out so that they can fulfill your needs.
Yet.. all babies are unique in their little own way.
When you deal with adult human.. you do no different..
You may be thinking.. but we are not babies.. we are adults. I can assure you.. there are lots more similarities than we want to admit.
The only difference is.. an adult can speak.. but they don't always speak their mind or mean what they say....so we go back to the basics.
the key to maintain a relationship is to have or learn the ability to give and take. humans have mood indicators but they are not as obvious as traffic lights. people can read body language which a big indicator. adults are much better at communicating their needs and wants through their words and actions.
precisely people do not necessarily speak what they truly want, men are strongly advised to look at women actions instead. actions speak louder than words. but also do realise that people do not necessarily know what they want or need.
in fact, there is such a manual on women, which i have benefitted greatly from and is the primary basic source of my knowledge of women. if any guy wants to know more about this manual, do not hesitate to contact me.
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
Men are always going too heavy too fast too soon. That’s the biggest complaint from women today. In so doing, men come across as desperate and too available, which is a major turn off to women.
So at what pace should men go and who dictates that pace? Ever since Adam and Eve, men have always been the aggressor. Men approach women. Women almost never have to or never want to approach men. Why would they want to put themselves at the risk of rejection when men are already doing it anyway? If she ever wants a guy, she will choose to flirt instead and get you to do the dirty work of approaching. That’s how it is in most societies, whether we like it or not, that is the reality. So by default, women have been given the choice of accepting versus rejecting and also the choice of setting the pace in any pursuit.
Since only the woman herself will know when she is comfortable to shift gears, we have to go very slowly with them. Patience is the key. When you are able to be patient with them, they will find you different from the rest of the other guys who are always going too heavy too fast too soon. Patience will set you apart from the competition. Let the rest of the guys rush in, turn the woman off and get dumped. We will not attempt to shift gears unless given cues to do so. Women will seldom tell men directly to go faster but they definitely show signs or behave in certain manner to hint to us she is ready to take things to the next level. When we receive those hints, she is indirectly approaching us to take things to the next level. The choice is now ours to make and the tables are now turned. If you have yet to realize by now, love is a power play. In order for the relationship to last, men have to come out stronger in the power struggle because women are subconsciously looking for leaders in their men.
So specifically, how should we go about this whole idea of patience and playing it cool in the beginning stages of dating? First and foremost, always wait five to nine days to call after you have got her number and between dates. Most guys predictably call within two days. But you are a cut above the rest. Secondly, you will only give her a call between Sunday to Thursday and ask her out for a date between Sunday to Thursday. In other words, never call her on a Friday or Saturday and never ask her for a date on Friday or Saturday. What’s the big deal with Fridays and Saturdays? These two days are only reserved for that special someone. She has yet to attain that status yet. You are always busy on Fridays and Saturdays, regardless of whether you are busy. Get the drift?
By the 4th to 7th date, she will ask you why you don’t ask her out for Fridays or Saturdays, this is supposed to happen if her interest in you has been increasing since the first date. Her interest should be on the rise if you have not done anything to turn her off since date one. When she asks that question, that is her first indirect approach. Ask her why going out on Friday or Saturday is important. Act dumb and make her reveal her feelings for you. If she refuses to, just continue taking her out on the other days. Only take her out on a Friday or Saturday when she asks you to.
By the 8th to 12th date, she will ask you where the relationship is going. In other words, she is asking you whether you want her to be your girlfriend and make the relationship exclusive. When she asks that question, ask her “Are you asking me to be your boyfriend?”
Sounds like a plan to me, by the way...Adam was the only guy and Eve didn't had no other choice. -
Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
Men are always going too heavy too fast too soon. That’s the biggest complaint from women today. In so doing, men come across as desperate and too available, which is a major turn off to women.
So at what pace should men go and who dictates that pace? Ever since Adam and Eve, men have always been the aggressor. Men approach women. Women almost never have to or never want to approach men. Why would they want to put themselves at the risk of rejection when men are already doing it anyway? If she ever wants a guy, she will choose to flirt instead and get you to do the dirty work of approaching. That’s how it is in most societies, whether we like it or not, that is the reality. So by default, women have been given the choice of accepting versus rejecting and also the choice of setting the pace in any pursuit.
Since only the woman herself will know when she is comfortable to shift gears, we have to go very slowly with them. Patience is the key. When you are able to be patient with them, they will find you different from the rest of the other guys who are always going too heavy too fast too soon. Patience will set you apart from the competition. Let the rest of the guys rush in, turn the woman off and get dumped. We will not attempt to shift gears unless given cues to do so. Women will seldom tell men directly to go faster but they definitely show signs or behave in certain manner to hint to us she is ready to take things to the next level. When we receive those hints, she is indirectly approaching us to take things to the next level. The choice is now ours to make and the tables are now turned. If you have yet to realize by now, love is a power play. In order for the relationship to last, men have to come out stronger in the power struggle because women are subconsciously looking for leaders in their men.
So specifically, how should we go about this whole idea of patience and playing it cool in the beginning stages of dating? First and foremost, always wait five to nine days to call after you have got her number and between dates. Most guys predictably call within two days. But you are a cut above the rest. Secondly, you will only give her a call between Sunday to Thursday and ask her out for a date between Sunday to Thursday. In other words, never call her on a Friday or Saturday and never ask her for a date on Friday or Saturday. What’s the big deal with Fridays and Saturdays? These two days are only reserved for that special someone. She has yet to attain that status yet. You are always busy on Fridays and Saturdays, regardless of whether you are busy. Get the drift?
By the 4th to 7th date, she will ask you why you don’t ask her out for Fridays or Saturdays, this is supposed to happen if her interest in you has been increasing since the first date. Her interest should be on the rise if you have not done anything to turn her off since date one. When she asks that question, that is her first indirect approach. Ask her why going out on Friday or Saturday is important. Act dumb and make her reveal her feelings for you. If she refuses to, just continue taking her out on the other days. Only take her out on a Friday or Saturday when she asks you to.
By the 8th to 12th date, she will ask you where the relationship is going. In other words, she is asking you whether you want her to be your girlfriend and make the relationship exclusive. When she asks that question, ask her “Are you asking me to be your boyfriend?”A faster plan would be to kill all the other guys in the world, leaving you the ONLY guy in the world.
Waiting for you to do that plan.
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Originally posted by parn:
Sounds like a plan to me, by the way...Adam was the only guy and Eve didn't had no other choice.you are every man's dream girl!
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
If there is standard set of training, no men would be confused and suffering. and all marriages would be happily ever after. but there are definitely principles that have to followed. those principles can be taught through various methods or specific training. sharing experiences and telling stories of scenarios is one way of training.
guys prefer info that is detailed and precise. when he fixes a model airplane the instruction manual says exactly which piece goes where. it doesn't say, well, there are five parts that make up the wing, here they are, go figure it out yourself.
if the man doesn't even have any idea what he is doing is right or wrong, how can he gain experience? everytime he does something wrong and gets dumped, he just thinks that women are crazy and illogical, and he goes on to the next girl doing the exact same thing he done with the previous girl and gets dumped again. the thought that maybe he is doing something wrong never cross his mind at all. and mistakes keep getting repeated from one girl to the other. until he finally marries one girl, and get divorced or stay in a loveless marriage because he has 3 kids to raise and 30 year mortage loan to service and neither he or the wife can afford a divorce at that stage in their life.
What makes you different from a dog or a robot if you are ''trained''. Yes there are principles i dont deny, you give a example to illustralate the principle, not exactly follow the example like a robot. Theres no detailed example guidebook.
What is right and wrong now in this case, you might be surprise some girls actually like what other girls hate. Not everything is black and white in a relationship. It is sad if that guy doesnt consider all possibilities instead just blaming women for it.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
What makes you different from a dog or a robot if you are ''trained''. Yes there are principles i dont deny, you give a example to illustralate the principle, not exactly follow the example like a robot. Theres no detailed example guidebook.
What is right and wrong now in this case, you might be surprise some girls actually like what other girls hate. Not everything is black and white in a relationship. It is sad if that guy doesnt consider all possibilities instead just blaming women for it.
those women who hate being treated that way are not relationship material. men should not waste their time, energy and money on such women.
guys consider all possibilities. in fact they consider every woman is right and he is always in the wrong. thats the problem! it never come across their mind that some women are actually not good for them while some others are much better.
when your teacher was teaching you the alphabet in kindergarten, were you being trained to be a dog/robot? when your parents told you that you need to have determination to be successful in anything you do, are they training you to be a dog/robot? they are just training you to be a better person, not a dog or robot. when your boss give you a reward for your hardwork, is he training you to be a dog/robot? he is just training you to be a better employee.
I am just training guys to be a better lover! if being a better lover requires training, then all men should be trained.
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SLC @b, I think you have been trained already,
by women.
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Originally posted by mancha:
SLC @b, I think you have been trained already,
by women.
HAHAHA
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
those women who hate being treated that way are not relationship material. men should not waste their time, energy and money on such women.
guys consider all possibilities. in fact they consider every woman is right and he is always in the wrong. thats the problem! it never come across their mind that some women are actually not good for them while some others are much better.
when your teacher was teaching you the alphabet in kindergarten, were you being trained to be a dog/robot? when your parents told you that you need to have determination to be successful in anything you do, are they training you to be a dog/robot? they are just training you to be a better person, not a dog or robot. when your boss give you a reward for your hardwork, is he training you to be a dog/robot? he is just training you to be a better employee.
I am just training guys to be a better lover! if being a better lover requires training, then all men should be trained.
Please advise the guys to go for cock extension, since they do not understand the meaning behind the word "OBEY!". -
Originally posted by parn:
Please advise the guys to go for cock extension, since they do not understand the meaning behind the word "OBEY!".it is such sentences of yours which have made women unhappy with love and relationships because so many guys are so obedient these days. not fun at all.
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
it is such sentences of yours which have made women unhappy with love and relationships because so many guys are so obedient these days. not fun at all.
Please don't mix up between being PATIENCE and OBEDIENT.Ask them to come and suck my toes if they are truly obedient.
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Originally posted by parn:
Please don't mix up between being PATIENCE and OBEDIENT.Ask them to come and suck my toes if they are truly obedient.
they are obedient but not to that extent. not to forget, they also have their ego. most men do not have patience with women.
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
they are obedient but not to that extent. not to forget, they also have their ego. most men do not have patience with women.
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Originally posted by SgLoveCop@blogspot:
those women who hate being treated that way are not relationship material. men should not waste their time, energy and money on such women.
guys consider all possibilities. in fact they consider every woman is right and he is always in the wrong. thats the problem! it never come across their mind that some women are actually not good for them while some others are much better.
when your teacher was teaching you the alphabet in kindergarten, were you being trained to be a dog/robot? when your parents told you that you need to have determination to be successful in anything you do, are they training you to be a dog/robot? they are just training you to be a better person, not a dog or robot. when your boss give you a reward for your hardwork, is he training you to be a dog/robot? he is just training you to be a better employee.
I am just training guys to be a better lover! if being a better lover requires training, then all men should be trained.
I dont think you understood my point. I said Yes there are principles i dont deny, you give a example to illustralate the principle, not exactly follow the example like a robot. Theres no detailed example guidebook. What makes you different from a robot then ? Is that truely youself ?
I wont call those you have listed as ''training'', just your own set of advices and experiences. Semantics argument.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
I dont think you understood my point. I said Yes there are principles i dont deny, you give a example to illustralate the principle, not exactly follow the example like a robot. Theres no detailed example guidebook. What makes you different from a robot then ? Is that truely youself ?
I wont call those you have listed as ''training'', just your own set of advices and experiences. Semantics argument.
training techniques are debatable.
more importantly, you are trying to say that by learning something new, the person will not be himself? i'm sure in our lives, we have learnt alot, everytime we learn something new, we change ourselves for better or worse. our view of the world is also changed.
you won't be old self anymore. you will be a different person. the self is ever changing unless you never allow yourself to learn anything new or have new experiences in life.
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Training is not the word. The word should be learning.
People should be learning etiquette. i.e. manners.
And as one progresses on through life, to learn the etiquette for different events, like outings, parties, and dating etc.
If one is brought up right as a child, there should be no problem later in life. Problem is the parents are not brought up right and therefore cannot instill the correct values to their offsprings.
Training is too harsh, but necessary for pageants participants like Miss Universe or Man Hunt. Where a training regime is warranted.
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Aiya who cares?
I just hope that no idiot would take TS's words seriously.
TS may mean no harm with all these. But all I can say is.. his set of lousy advice only applies to a certain group of females (those who love playing mind games and suffer from a severe communication disability).
If there are guys out there who dig such gals...then please by all means follow his advice.
:)
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
Aiya who cares?
I just hope that no idiot would take TS's words seriously.
TS may mean no harm with all these. But all I can say is.. his set of lousy advice only applies to a certain group of females (those who love playing mind games and suffer from a severe communication disability).
If there are guys out there who dig such gals...then please by all means follow his advice.
:)
my advice applies to all women. unless you guys are gay, you need to know this stuff or be prepared to get dumped, be in a loveless marriage or get divorced.
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Not all men are clueless, according to your premise for training.
Many in fact get on pretty well by on their own and by what they have.
It is the cassanova that needs to apply techniques or acquire cock extensions.
Simple sincerity always work in relationships. And many people have it.
It is the cad that requires special knowledge.