haha...wat a theory u haveOriginally posted by lurve:if virginity is not important, why does god still haf to create dat piece of tissue? might as well let dem be loose....no matter wat, it still haf to be inserted by those dicks mah.
Glad for youOriginally posted by userid:hello pp...thank you so much for your criticisms... though i didnt quite go thru them till now... i finally saw wat i didnt see before... finally understand wat i dont previously. i dont want to elaborate...but just want to let u all know i'm not going to let her go...im happily with her now.
okok having said tat...i must say it was a hell of an emotional roller coaster ride and struggle..... i still want to stick to my pov mentioned previously... no point letting another person go thru this when it can be avoided.
in terms of personality, she's the purest person.Originally posted by harryryan:way to go bro.u r a real man.
Originally posted by AzRaeL:in terms of personality, she's the purest person.
she is a real caring and very understanding person. She looks gorgeous too.
Much better than an ugly virgin who thinks too highly of herself.
Originally posted by puppylove:hmmm...... this sounds so FAMILIAR.. does anyone remember some guy, came here.. talk about himself being a virgin.. and his gf havin alot of bf, and had sex with one of them?? then he talks about what crap that the scene keep replayin in his head.. and stuff..
my god can you GET OVER IT. if u really feel that, by doing this, we are all goin to pity u and say ''yah, nowadays pple are so loose''.. hello~~ get a life! stop wasting ur time here, the responds are the same, stop starting topics revolving around chastity and virginity and ur gf bein non-virgin, MAN, she should leave you for her own good, find a man that can appreciate her VIRGIN OR NOT.
i dun pity u, i pity ur gf, for falling in love with you, someone hu CLAIM to love her soooo much and yet cannot accept her past. and yer u claim that it is true love? yer u can say it's no infatuation? can u say that u are treatin like a possession? that u cant stand the fact that someone actually touched YOUR possession before? do u feel that she's like second hand? not brand new? don't u think that u are a WEE BIT TOO SELFISH. stop thinkin bout urself and think about ur gf for a change, u're gonna drive her away someday. if u don, i hope she leaves u, it's for her own good.
and you?? go shoot urself down there and remain a virgin forever. u wont find a girl that you can ''give it to'' EVER.
sorry pple for the harsh language, i just cant stand this virgin headed guy. he should start a ''virgins shoudl marry virgins'' campaign![]()



Why must virginity be important in a relationship? EVen more important than love itself????Originally posted by userid:i have a tale to share here..abt a boy and a girl...
let me name the boy cliff and the ger linda...
some time ago..cliff met linda at an online chat group outing...they have not known each other before...although cliff had chatted with linda previously over the net and have gotten to know about each other pretty well. linda was a shy ger...she was quiet but pleasant over dinner and left a good impression on cliff. after the 1st group outing...during that time...linda was unhappy because she was facing some problems...thus cliff decided to ask her out for a day to let her take her mind off her problems....it lasted a day and the two had a great time... and apparently sparks flew between them because after tat date linda began acting strangely....cliff noticed this...and he wondered why at first....but slowly..it dawned on him tat linda might have taken a liking to him.. he wasnt sure though...after much contemplation he decided to ask her about it....being an honest ger with a straightforward personality, linda admitted that she had indeed started to like cliff...but thought tat was probably just an infatuation tat will die off after sometime...cliff acknowledged this...and told linda that he was also attracted to her though he wasnt really sure of his feelings..he let her know abt this uncertainty as well... this conversation set the foundation of a very transparent friendship between the two...from then on..they were very honest with each other about their feelings etc there was no hiding between the both of them... the two of them decided to meet up after the conversation to sort things out... during the meet up, however, things didnt go smoothly.... cliff felt the pressure to reciprocate her feelings because he knew of them...and in the end he decided perhaps he didn't really like linda after all... and as he was always honest with her..he told linda he wasnt sure....and told her tat if she did want to have a final answer..that she would have to assume he didnt like her at all... having said this...cliff felt a huge sense of relief...though he did know tat linda was disappointed...well..both of them thought tat was ok since they had only gone out together a couple of times..
after tat episode...the two of them developed a stronger frendship as they 2 of them cliqued very well...cliff decided to ask linda out again, he somewat found that he had begun to miss linda in her absence..and looked forward to chatting and meeting her again...perhaps unknown to him... he had begun to develop feelings for this nice girl. the 2 of them spent a day together again... this time.... without the tremendous pressure, cliff realises his true feelings for linda and he was very happy.... cliff told linda of his feelings and the both of them rapidly became intimate friends...both knew of the love between them but decided to give themselves time to get to know each other better... before they knew it...love blossomed and cliff and linda knew they were on the verge of becoming bf-gf...both were happy and contented...
however, this happy tale took an abrupt turn one day, when the 2 of them approached the issue of sex..cliff was single then...and had been single all his life... he has a firm stance on pre-marital sex (pms) and felt tat he would not engage in it till after marriage... he wanted to save the most intimate part of him for his wife one day...and he felt tat the more he loved a girl...the more he should help her keep her chastity by not making love to her before marriage...so that in the event their relationship didn't work out...she would have no worries nor problems in moving on to her next relationship, in case her next partner might also have a firm stance on pms. this was how cliff saw the issue of pre-marital sex...
however, he was devastated when linda admitted to him tat she had slept with her 1st ex once. she explained to him tat it was a mistake..and tat she had learnt her lesson and had not slept with her other bfs...but cliff was shocked, deeply saddened and dumbfounded. he knew linda loved him alot..and thus risked her happiness to tell him the truth...hoping that in doing so...cliff would understand and forgive her... cliff...loving linda alot then... indeed wanted very much to do so...he thought of ways and means to convince himself that it was a mistake of the past..that she did not mean it....tat she was not a loose girl..since she had since learnt from her mistake and had not allowed this to happen ever since... but now the prob is this: cliff while really wanting very much to accept the ger he loves....knew tat he had a problem with getting over this..because he does not know how to handle the problem of recalling this mistake...the vivid scenes playing in his head...of another man having sex with the girl he loves dearly.. and worse..the fact that she had allowed this man to do so... whenever he thinks of this....it fills him with hatred, pain and anguish. cliff is a person who looked for a serious relationship...one which has the potential of marriage years down the road...in this relationship with linda now...he knows this is fillled with uncertainty..because he doesnt know if he will ever get over this problem....he did not want to have it haunt him for the rest of his life. cliff right now..is in a dilemma...accept or not to accept... he had told linda that it was unlikely for him to ever accept her now because of this... and both of these 2 are suffering...they miss each other everyday and the pain is killing them....but both are helpless...they know they will live in regret forever since they felt they were made for each other.
i hope this story will give young boys and gers out there something to think about.... how a simple thoughtless act of pre-marital sex can ruin the happiness of an otherwise blessed couple. i mean this...cos im the cliff in this story and im still suffering now.
U tell me sth. WHO IS PERFECT IN THIS WORLD????????????Originally posted by userid:if you can teach me a way to remove those images from my head...such that they won't haunt me anymore... i'd be the 1st to thank you.
everyone has their past yes; the foolish ones have things in their past tat will affect their future forever. i'm one who tried to keep my past perfect so tat i've nothing to worry about. my purpose of writing my story here is to serve as a warning to those youngsters out there who's future can still be salvaged. why should young people have to go through such anguish? love should be a happy thing..not one that has to end up in anguish like this story
Originally posted by AzRaeL:I totally agree!!!!!
the story on serves to illustrate that Cliff is an ass[b]hole
the problem here is with Cliff, not Linda[/b]
Before I continue I will like to say that in no way do i intend to flame you.Originally posted by userid:if you can teach me a way to remove those images from my head...such that they won't haunt me anymore... i'd be the 1st to thank you.
everyone has their past yes; the foolish ones have things in their past tat will affect their future forever. i'm one who tried to keep my past perfect so tat i've nothing to worry about. my purpose of writing my story here is to serve as a warning to those youngsters out there who's future can still be salvaged. why should young people have to go through such anguish? love should be a happy thing..not one that has to end up in anguish like this story
U ever heard of "True love goes beyond ALL boundaries"?Originally posted by userid:if you can teach me a way to remove those images from my head...such that they won't haunt me anymore... i'd be the 1st to thank you.
everyone has their past yes; the foolish ones have things in their past tat will affect their future forever. i'm one who tried to keep my past perfect so tat i've nothing to worry about. my purpose of writing my story here is to serve as a warning to those youngsters out there who's future can still be salvaged. why should young people have to go through such anguish? love should be a happy thing..not one that has to end up in anguish like this story
"Virginity" is in da "eyes" of da heart... not da "naked eye" U, I & every1 using... Dat tissue is juz to give ppl excuse of "virginity" or watsoever...Originally posted by lurve:if virginity is not important, why does god still haf to create dat piece of tissue? might as well let dem be loose....no matter wat, it still haf to be inserted by those dicks mah.
-______-'''Originally posted by Jaws:wah....so many ppl dun mind their gfs not virgins ah?
den should contact me if ur gfs r virgin....so dat i can break dem for u.![]()
so sg guys are only known for sleeping with the girls they so call "love" claiming in all righteousness that love is just a feeling, not a commitment thus they are free of all responsibility. i agree that looking for a virgin partner is a very idealistic. but its ppl like u all whu made them idealistic. the degrading moral society. if this is what being an "SGguy" is all about. PUI!Originally posted by stoner:PLease lar cliff... don disgrace the SGboys face can. Go get a life and stop behaving like a whimp sulking like a FEMALE over this VIRGIN issue..... so sad u noe to see a SG guy behave like a SNAG!
Who U refering to? Stoner or ALL singaporean guys here?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:so sg guys are only known for sleeping with the girls they so call "love" claiming in all righteousness that love is just a feeling, not a commitment thus they are free of all responsibility. i agree that looking for a virgin partner is a very idealistic. but its ppl like u all whu made them idealistic. the degrading moral society. if this is what being an "SGguy" is all about. PUI!
and another thing. at least people like cliff can stand up to his ideals and control himself, something you can never do, something you claim to be so hard, but he did it, despite his problem of accepting people, i feel he is way out of your league of comments. why? cuz u ain't got what it takes to comment him at all! anytime he wants, he can become as low as u are, but you can never rise up to his level again. choke on this fact stoner.
I agree... in da end is his life, his view, his pattern... We r only here to share our views & comments... No right we have to condemn him or watsoever...Originally posted by gasband:I mean this is after all a personal choice and decision. I dun think anyone else is qualified to condemn his decision. I am sure u all too have your own requirements to a partner, can i then condemn you if you do not like your gf to be fat? I am sure there are people out there who are like that?
How abt if you found out your gf used to be a guy? Can accept? Some can, some cannot. Those who can, we can only say true love. Those who cant, we just have to say, its really up to u.

better look at the pervious posts by others to see who started condemning who. as for who am i refering to, to the people stoner classifies as "sg guy" class. can't stand ppl like stonerOriginally posted by loneryu00:I agree... in da end is his life, his view, his pattern... We r only here to share our views & comments... No right we have to condemn him or watsoever...
Right, Gassy?