a tale of a boy and ger....abt chastity
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Originally posted by stoner:PLease lar cliff... don disgrace the SGboys face can. Go get a life and stop behaving like a whimp sulking like a FEMALE over this VIRGIN issue..... so sad u noe to see a SG guy behave like a SNAG!
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I dun care abt them... waste my time... Not even worth it.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:better look at the pervious posts by others to see who started condemning who. as for who am i refering to, to the people stoner classifies as "sg guy" class. can't stand ppl like stoner
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the way i see it, *my own point of view, may be wrong* the only reason why everyone is so against cliff is cause they have already done it, and they didn't want to be hypocritical and go saying stuff like "oh, ya i agree, virginity is impt" if you want to post, post honestly.
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I post honestly... Coz I dare to sae, "I a VIRGIN!" physically... But mentally... I not anymore...Originally posted by dumbdumb!:the way i see it, *my own point of view, may be wrong* the only reason why everyone is so against cliff is cause they have already done it, and they didn't want to be hypocritical and go saying stuff like "oh, ya i agree, virginity is impt" if you want to post, post honestly. -
oh just for the record. i feel cliff will regret if he gives her up. and i think both are admirable, comparing with ppl like stoner, the girl made a mistake, but she knew that, and she changed, i find that admirable. unlike some ppl i know in sgforums.
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Since like U SUPER prejudice against some ppl... Dun U tink its a waste of energy? U need lots of energy to dislike or hate some1... Y not try to focus dat energy to yr advantage? Like... Work out?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:oh just for the record. i feel cliff will regret if he gives her up. and i think both are admirable, comparing with ppl like stoner, the girl made a mistake, but she knew that, and she changed, i find that admirable. unlike some ppl i know in sgforums. 
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What wrong being a SNAG??Originally posted by stoner:PLease lar cliff... don disgrace the SGboys face can. Go get a life and stop behaving like a whimp sulking like a FEMALE over this VIRGIN issue..... so sad u noe to see a SG guy behave like a SNAG!
Do u tink u r very man...lamer,toke cock. -
ya comments are ok...but there were some who condemn him and i think thats rather subjective...well...these kind of issues how to say right or wrong hehehehehe....Originally posted by loneryu00:I agree... in da end is his life, his view, his pattern... We r only here to share our views & comments... No right we have to condemn him or watsoever...
Right, Gassy?
no probs, chills.
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shld set up a V club for ppl to join.....
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exactly. so full of cr@p. i quote myself againOriginally posted by winning 11:What wrong being a SNAG??
Do u tink u r very man...lamer,toke cock.
so sg guys are only known for sleeping with the girls they so call "love" claiming in all righteousness that love is just a feeling, not a commitment thus they are free of all responsibility. i agree that looking for a virgin partner is a very idealistic. but its ppl like u all whu made them idealistic. the degrading moral society. if this is what being an "SGguy" is all about. PUI!
and another thing. at least people like cliff can stand up to his ideals and control himself, something you can never do, something you claim to be so hard, but he did it, despite his problem of accepting people, i feel he is way out of your league of comments. why? cuz u ain't got what it takes to comment him at all! anytime he wants, he can become as low as u are, but you can never rise up to his level again. choke on this fact stoner. -- that goes to everyone else whu disses off cliff. -
somwhow i agree with u. It is a fact that why virgin gf/bf or wife/hubby is idealistic is because people are having premarital-sex without considering the consequences. One must think this way: does pre-marital sex have any benefits?Cant think of any. In contrast, I can think of many disastrous consequences of pre-marital sex. think abt it.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:exactly. so full of cr@p. i quote myself again
so sg guys are only known for sleeping with the girls they so call "love" claiming in all righteousness that love is just a feeling, not a commitment thus they are free of all responsibility. i agree that looking for a virgin partner is a very idealistic. but its ppl like u all whu made them idealistic. the degrading moral society. if this is what being an "SGguy" is all about. PUI!
and another thing. at least people like cliff can stand up to his ideals and control himself, something you can never do, something you claim to be so hard, but he did it, despite his problem of accepting people, i feel he is way out of your league of comments. why? cuz u ain't got what it takes to comment him at all! anytime he wants, he can become as low as u are, but you can never rise up to his level again. choke on this fact stoner. -- that goes to everyone else whu disses off cliff. -
the only problem is tt ppl dun really know what love means.
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i think many people, be it guys or girls.. will very much like to save their chastity for the ones they love most and will spend their whole life with.. but we should noe that not everyone has the thinking since they were born, sometimes, it takes lessons to make pple learn.. maybe it is a rather big mistake to lose it to someone you are not going to marry or whatsoever.. but that doesn't mean that the person who made the mistake is wrong.
everyone makes mistakes, some are minor some are major.. but the most impt thing is that you learn from it. and i feel that cliff's girlfriend has probably woken up after that mistake, and has tried to be honest so she could start life afresh.. not that we are condemnin him, but she deserves a chance..
and sometimes, pple judge others wrongly.. the one that you think will be your soulmate, may not be after all.. but it isn't really our fault ya.. sometimes lvoe just blinds every single thing in sight..
as cliche as it sounds.. nobody is perfect
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Many months back i've posted an almost similar topic jus to get advices.. All i get is negative responses from pple in this forum.. giving me names looking down on me.. my plight is almost similar to cliff jus that i got to know abt my girlfriends chaste status a couple of months after we got together.. it is really difficult to get on and over with it.. after i posted the thread i've decided to give it another shot to get on with life.. but deep inside it is really very toturing...we had a talk and all i get is apologies and promises..i tried to hang on to our relationship and until a few days back i really cannot take the mental torment and i blasted everything back at my girlfriend..
to put it in a easier scope for pple who don know wat it feels like:
if your girlfriend cheated on you when u are together its easier to handle bcos u can jus let go of this kind of girl... but for our kind of situation you get the cheated feeling but u cant bear to let go... bcos love is still around.. (at least this is how im feeling)
our current relationship status:
we are of marry-able age.. parents of both sides are contented with their future in-laws.. we are into marrying plans a years down the road
..i've decided to give a last try to salvage our relationship.. in another 5 hrs time she will be coming over and we will be talkin things out.. i myself is very much into this relationship.. in my eyes she is a beautiful girl with a big warm heart..however when i get to know abt her past it jus takes out 60% of respect from her.. to think that she lost her chaste in hr JC years.. JC a place where pple get an advanced level of education and have a more profound vision of life and yet it happened there and then.. her reason..:" im jus not thinking at that point of time..i tried to resist him (her ex-bf) many times back but at that point of time when it happened i really wasnt thinking.. im sorry.. i really loved him then... "
like that how? when i hear of this everytime.. one side of me is telling me that she is also very pitiful and deserves to be forgiven the otherside of me is telling me she totally have no dignity and respect for herself... aiyah.. dun wanna sae so much ready heart aching ready cannot finish typing..
GOD BLESS u guys out there.. -
Then WAT U noe abt "love"??? Muz it apply ONLY to boy & gal love??? Wat abt OTHER love??? Like love for food? sleep? reading? drawing? swimming? racing? etc, etc?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:the only problem is tt ppl dun really know what love means. -
My fren... I dunno if I was 1 of those who once repied -ve to yr previous thread... If so... I can sae I was childish & unable to see a bigger picture... I m still learning... But wat I noe so far is, "True love goes beyond ALL boundaries..."Originally posted by m@rk:Many months back i've posted an almost similar topic jus to get advices.. All i get is negative responses from pple in this forum.. giving me names looking down on me.. my plight is almost similar to cliff jus that i got to know abt my girlfriends chaste status a couple of months after we got together.. it is really difficult to get on and over with it.. after i posted the thread i've decided to give it another shot to get on with life.. but deep inside it is really very toturing...we had a talk and all i get is apologies and promises..i tried to hang on to our relationship and until a few days back i really cannot take the mental torment and i blasted everything back at my girlfriend..
to put it in a easier scope for pple who don know wat it feels like:
if your girlfriend cheated on you when u are together its easier to handle bcos u can jus let go of this kind of girl... but for our kind of situation you get the cheated feeling but u cant bear to let go... bcos love is still around.. (at least this is how im feeling)
our current relationship status:
we are of marry-able age.. parents of both sides are contented with their future in-laws.. we are into marrying plans a years down the road
..i've decided to give a last try to salvage our relationship.. in another 5 hrs time she will be coming over and we will be talkin things out.. i myself is very much into this relationship.. in my eyes she is a beautiful girl with a big warm heart..however when i get to know abt her past it jus takes out 60% of respect from her.. to think that she lost her chaste in hr JC years.. JC a place where pple get an advanced level of education and have a more profound vision of life and yet it happened there and then.. her reason..:" im jus not thinking at that point of time..i tried to resist him (her ex-bf) many times back but at that point of time when it happened i really wasnt thinking.. im sorry.. i really loved him then... "
like that how? when i hear of this everytime.. one side of me is telling me that she is also very pitiful and deserves to be forgiven the otherside of me is telling me she totally have no dignity and respect for herself... aiyah.. dun wanna sae so much ready heart aching ready cannot finish typing..
GOD BLESS u guys out there..
If U can forgive & forget wats in da past... or let go... U r alot happier & more fortunate than most. -
U sure U r RYSJ's MOST adorable & huggable creature? Wat r U? A stuff toy?Originally posted by puppylove:nobody is perfect 
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obviously i'm going to post love according to the topic right! dun be lame. nan dao ppl post love abt boy and girl, i go and extra post out love about food??Originally posted by loneryu00:Then WAT U noe abt "love"??? Muz it apply ONLY to boy & gal love??? Wat abt OTHER love??? Like love for food? sleep? reading? drawing? swimming? racing? etc, etc?
as for yr -ve remarks about ppl like cliff. well, i see your point where forgiveness is in order. but YOU have to understand their shock and disappointment. remember, who made virginity an ideal? its ppl who have no control and low sense of morality and responsibility. i believe staying pure for the one who will truely love you and for someone who truely deserves it, is possible. just that no one bothers to. i'd like to high light this point. giving yourself for someone who truely deserves it, not to those who break up break up break up after abit not happy. is it worth it?
userid i'm sure u're seeing this. maybe u should give yr point? -
To a certain extend, yes I agree that one should keep themselves for the person who truly love you and for someone who truly deserve it. Let's say you're in the r/s and you believe he/she is TRULY the one and fully convinced that you'll walk down the aisle together, will he/she be considered the one who TRULY deserves you at that point? How do you gauge if he/she is truly the one? Based on what criteria?
Can I also say that much as there are some girls with high sex drive, many times it's the guys who initiated/convinced the girls to give themselves to them there and then?
No one can detect if a guy is a virgin or not, but sorry that's not the case for a girl. If a girl gives herself to the guy she loved most there and then, can you say she's stupid that she failed to see what lies ahead of her, probably all those sweet nothings said to her are lies and empty promises. But then again is she at fault for giving herself to someone she truly loved then? NO! Because if you're the guy, you definately won't feel she's stupid nor feel she's at fault.
All the -ve comments are given because of the fact that most of you have not been in this similar position. Guys, put urself in the position of the girl and you'll understand why certain things are done. Yes, some girls are addicted to sex, that's where to term 'loose' comes in. Think of those who're not loose and lost themselves to the guys because maybe they're 'stupid' if you wanna put it that way. But ultimately one learns from their mistakes and all they asked for is a chance to redeem themselves and make up for all that is done. Some people learn things the hard way, well the impt thing here is whether he/she deserves the second chance.
It's not that girls do not have respect for themselves and lack of morality and responsibility. Can we say that guys who deflowered the girls and leave them for another are also at fault? It takes 2 to clap probably. So just before your personal opinions come into place, think of how your views and suggestions may affect another one.
People with a past will hope that they be accepted for what they are. No one is born perfect, why seek perfection from imperfection? Rather than doing that, why not cherish what you have? It's all in the mind. -
I think I told you before and will say it again: its your mental prison. Betray you during the relationship is better than she losing her virginity before you, before marriage and you said that love is around and makes it difficult? I think its utterly wrong.Originally posted by m@rk:Many months back i've posted an almost similar topic jus to get advices.. All i get is negative responses from pple in this forum.. giving me names looking down on me.. my plight is almost similar to cliff jus that i got to know abt my girlfriends chaste status a couple of months after we got together.. it is really difficult to get on and over with it.. after i posted the thread i've decided to give it another shot to get on with life.. but deep inside it is really very toturing...we had a talk and all i get is apologies and promises..i tried to hang on to our relationship and until a few days back i really cannot take the mental torment and i blasted everything back at my girlfriend..
to put it in a easier scope for pple who don know wat it feels like:
if your girlfriend cheated on you when u are together its easier to handle bcos u can jus let go of this kind of girl... but for our kind of situation you get the cheated feeling but u cant bear to let go... bcos love is still around.. (at least this is how im feeling)
our current relationship status:
we are of marry-able age.. parents of both sides are contented with their future in-laws.. we are into marrying plans a years down the road
..i've decided to give a last try to salvage our relationship.. in another 5 hrs time she will be coming over and we will be talkin things out.. i myself is very much into this relationship.. in my eyes she is a beautiful girl with a big warm heart..however when i get to know abt her past it jus takes out 60% of respect from her.. to think that she lost her chaste in hr JC years.. JC a place where pple get an advanced level of education and have a more profound vision of life and yet it happened there and then.. her reason..:" im jus not thinking at that point of time..i tried to resist him (her ex-bf) many times back but at that point of time when it happened i really wasnt thinking.. im sorry.. i really loved him then... "
like that how? when i hear of this everytime.. one side of me is telling me that she is also very pitiful and deserves to be forgiven the otherside of me is telling me she totally have no dignity and respect for herself... aiyah.. dun wanna sae so much ready heart aching ready cannot finish typing..
GOD BLESS u guys out there..
If love was measured by levels, you are definitely a few level lower than true love (if true love was marked as the highest level).
The issue here isn't about love by itself - its about accepting people's past.
Can't accept people's past - you can't move on - relationship stagnant and dies off eventually. Basically, its your cosmic lesson you have to go through this lifetime; this scenario was thrown to you because you will probably learn alot of things from it. The bottomline remains: will you survive the lesson? Probably not. It will be back or lots of regrets - trust me....'JC a place where pple get an advanced level of education and have a more profound vision of life and yet it happened there and then.'
Welcome to the real world. Your preception of this is utterly wrong: I seen alots of cases and witness it myself. Stastically and by records - people from JC have higher percentage in drinking, smoking, clubbing and engaging pre-maritial sex. But hell with it, because this isn't our problem.
When you let go and years passed - you will eventually realise that your mind was too narrow. I am not saying that you will go back to her - however, regreting in not letting the relationship blossom into full potential will be there. Good luck and god bless.
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hey hey hey.. it's just a signature. why question my signature for?Originally posted by loneryu00:U sure U r RYSJ's MOST adorable & huggable creature? Wat r U? A stuff toy? got anything wrong just say.. no need to hint hint clue clue -
Originally posted by Yunhaier:
I agree with yunhaier. Is virginity more important than her character and love for you? As a guy you will not know how difficult it is to deny boyfriends' advances.
[b]Welcome to the real world. Your preception of this is utterly wrong: I seen alots of cases and witness it myself. Stastically and by records - people from JC have higher percentage in drinking, smoking, clubbing and engaging pre-maritial sex. But hell with it, because this isn't our problem. When you let go and years passed - you will eventually realise that your mind was too narrow. I am not saying that you will go back to her - however, regreting in not letting the relationship blossom into full potential will be there. Good luck and god bless.
Cheers [/b]
Anyway what decision you make i hope you will not regret it .
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Very true. even bruce the almighty is not prefectOriginally posted by shaunlaw:U tell me sth. WHO IS PERFECT IN THIS WORLD???????????? -
Yah its wrong... U more like da "punching bag stuff toy 1"...Originally posted by puppylove:hey hey hey.. it's just a signature. why question my signature for? got anything wrong just say.. no need to hint hint clue clue 
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No comment.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:obviously i'm going to post love according to the topic right! dun be lame. nan dao ppl post love abt boy and girl, i go and extra post out love about food??
as for yr -ve remarks about ppl like cliff. well, i see your point where forgiveness is in order. but YOU have to understand their shock and disappointment. remember, who made virginity an ideal? its ppl who have no control and low sense of morality and responsibility. i believe staying pure for the one who will truely love you and for someone who truely deserves it, is possible. just that no one bothers to. i'd like to high light this point. giving yourself for someone who truely deserves it, not to those who break up break up break up after abit not happy. is it worth it?
userid i'm sure u're seeing this. maybe u should give yr point?