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ya the whole world is not abt me i agree..but stop thinking abt what??a sincere apologise??Originally posted by Cerebral_Assassin:here i am trying to highlight something to every1 out here n not just u, thw whole world is not abt u n so stop thinking abt that -
saying sorry is lameOriginally posted by yuiko:if u did something wrong then is ur duty to apologise but if u thing u are not in the wrong pls don't be lame and said sorry and u think u are a hero..this is so lame and make the girl a jerk..if u are not wrong go on and said out what u think u are not in the wrong and explain to the girl face to face..not just by saying sorry and keep thinking that u are right and the girls are wrong..and pls don't only use sms and or phone..if u really daring go down to the girl explain to her and not just wait for sky to fall or wait for the girl to ask for break..this is how i personally feel i have to said not everyone think my way but i think someone out there will understand how i feel
this is how u see it
next time your subordinate in work or superior makes a mistake and say sorry and u think it is lame
'GOOD' attitude
when guys say sorry, they mean it
how many times have u heard your brothers, fathers say sorry to your mother or u?
answer is probably once a year for most ppl
if u think guys say sorry and make the guys feel heroic and girls feel like jerks, then wake up your idea and dun get yourself a bf since u think that guys r such bastards
if your bf go to your house and explain, what will your parents think abt the both of u? what will HIS parents think of the both of u? won't they worry? definitely it'll affect ppl's mood around the 2 of u
if the girl wanna ask for a break just because of this, it means u 2 cannot simply be 2gether for long so y not break now?
n if u think all these i said r bullshit, good for u because u most probably is the most desirable girl in the whole universe -
yeah i know how my guy is like..and yes i did tell him abt how i feel..but he just aint doing anything..so sadOriginally posted by ^cereal^:Hi sweetie,
I think you know ur bf better than anyone of us here. And I'm sure you know what type of pattern he is before going into a r/s with him. Since you know he'll only wait for the sky to fall, why not tell him straight what you expect him to do and what you want rather than playing mind games. Don't expect a guy to be able to read your mind coz like what you mentioned sometimes we girls don't even know what we want.
I still believe in being honest with each other, no matter what it is. Even if it's going to be some argument which will break out later, at the end of it all, don't you think you'll understand him, and he too, better?
If you want him to call you and apologise and explain matters to you personally, tell him. Msg him that and the ball will be in his court. You decide from there what next step to do. Isn't it better that way?
Trust me, all you need to do is to take the first step and dun let this drift you guys apart. It isn't worth it. take heart my dear lady
guess i still have to try harder..but what im thinking now..why only im trying when this time round i did nothing wrong? 
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hey are u trying to tell me that if a guy do something wrong by just saying sorry will kill them??or are u telling me that guy cannot said sorry???what so hard to said it if u did something wrong..???and also if he can't face me after he did something wrong how is he surpose to face me in future when we geth back together??yeah u think only when he come down then my parents will find out something wrong then u are wrong??u think human can easily hide their feeling??u think my parents or his parents have no eyes to see we are sad when we got into fight??im feeling sad when my bf did nothing at all when he did something wrong..and i did cry the fu.. out as im human with too much emotion and can't control?opss..sorry i almost forget..u are just giving me advise sorry and really thanks for ur advise i'll take note on it
Originally posted by Cerebral_Assassin:saying sorry is lame
this is how u see it
next time your subordinate in work or superior makes a mistake and say sorry and u think it is lame
'GOOD' attitude
when guys say sorry, they mean it
how many times have u heard your brothers, fathers say sorry to your mother or u?
answer is probably once a year for most ppl
if u think guys say sorry and make the guys feel heroic and girls feel like jerks, then wake up your idea and dun get yourself a bf since u think that guys r such bastards
if your bf go to your house and explain, what will your parents think abt the both of u? what will HIS parents think of the both of u? won't they worry? definitely it'll affect ppl's mood around the 2 of u
if the girl wanna ask for a break just because of this, it means u 2 cannot simply be 2gether for long so y not break now?
n if u think all these i said r bullshit, good for u because u most probably is the most desirable girl in the whole universe -
How old are you sweetie?
I think guys have a strong ego than girls. Thats why there's a song 'So hard to say I'm sorry' and it's sang by a GUY!
Guys are afterall guys. why find fault with their nature? Be peace with him and you'll find peace yourself gal. I understand you're trying to make your stand and that it: It is not difficult to say sorry when one has erred But sometimes this word is swallowed back when it reaches the tip of the tongue. He's lowered himself by telling you he's sorry over sms. i think that counts. Coz most of the time when guys really say the word 'Sorry', they mean it.
Cease the fire, we're all here to listen and help. If it's some comments you don't like to see, ignore. No point trying to prove your stand when different people see things differently. Take it with a pinch of salt -
Originally posted by ^cereal^:
thanks for ur reply~im going 20 soon anyway you sound more gentle in your replies and i feel better
How old are you sweetie?
I think guys have a strong ego than girls. Thats why there's a song 'So hard to say I'm sorry' and it's sang by a GUY!
Guys are afterall guys. why find fault with their nature? Be peace with him and you'll find peace yourself gal. I understand you're trying to make your stand and that it: [b]It is not difficult to say sorry when one has erred But sometimes this word is swallowed back when it reaches the tip of the tongue. He's lowered himself by telling you he's sorry over sms. i think that counts. Coz most of the time when guys really say the word 'Sorry', they mean it.
Cease the fire, we're all here to listen and help. If it's some comments you don't like to see, ignore. No point trying to prove your stand when different people see things differently. Take it with a pinch of salt
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Becoz I'm a gal, that's why
Always remember that guys and gals approach issues differently. You shouldnt feel that any comments here are harsh, becoz at the end of the day, you'll be facing the issue yourself, not anyone of us here. What we can do is to give you suggestion and tell you about our personal opinion.
I should say you're still young and have a long way ahead of you. Seriously speaking, you wont find saying sorry to a gal if they don't mean it. The fact that he smsed you proves that he's still very much into the r/s. Else I don't think he even bother to tell you that, think abt it. Some ppl are born with gift of the gab, words come naturally to them very easily. Some ppl are not so. THey find difficult to express themselves, probably your guy is one such person? Like I mentioned, you know your guy better than anyone of us here and we don't know what actually happened. Maybe if you post your story, we can have a better picture and can help you out more efficiently, don't you think so?
Take all comments with a pinch of salt. You do not have to agree with all of them, coz everyone is unique and special in their different ways..Originally posted by yuiko:thanks for ur reply~im going 20 soon anyway you sound more gentle in your replies and i feel better -
Woah... chill out! Y not gulp some water, stand on a tall platform & spray da mist?Originally posted by Cerebral_Assassin:saying sorry is lame
this is how u see it
next time your subordinate in work or superior makes a mistake and say sorry and u think it is lame
'GOOD' attitude
when guys say sorry, they mean it
how many times have u heard your brothers, fathers say sorry to your mother or u?
answer is probably once a year for most ppl
if u think guys say sorry and make the guys feel heroic and girls feel like jerks, then wake up your idea and dun get yourself a bf since u think that guys r such bastards
if your bf go to your house and explain, what will your parents think abt the both of u? what will HIS parents think of the both of u? won't they worry? definitely it'll affect ppl's mood around the 2 of u
if the girl wanna ask for a break just because of this, it means u 2 cannot simply be 2gether for long so y not break now?
n if u think all these i said r bullshit, good for u because u most probably is the most desirable girl in the whole universe
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gan pua emotionalOriginally posted by Yunhaier:Seriously speaking, you are talking about guys here. Woman don't even understand themselves at times about what they want and guys don't know how to respond to woman's needs.
Its a vicious cycle.
If you are looking for guys with such 'features' - logically, you wouldn't pick your present bf would you? Of course, there are something good about him other than this that you obviously saw and appreciate.
P.S: If you want him to learn and understand about this part of your thoughts - communicate in a non-hostile way. Afterall, you also hope to see your bf grow from this relationship isn't it? Everyone will gradually improve - when both parties help each other, the growth would be huge.
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Now U ppl noe Y I getting tired of helping out...? I said a comment similar to dis earlier... & I tot she read it... then da "assasin" said similar, only more stuffs to add in, & she replied, POINTING in red...Originally posted by yuiko:hey are u trying to tell me that if a guy do something wrong by just saying sorry will kill them??or are u telling me that guy cannot said sorry???what so hard to said it if u did something wrong..???and also if he can't face me after he did something wrong how is he surpose to face me in future when we geth back together??yeah u think only when he come down then my parents will find out something wrong then u are wrong??u think human can easily hide their feeling??u think my parents or his parents have no eyes to see we are sad when we got into fight??im feeling sad when my bf did nothing at all when he did something wrong..and i did cry the fu.. out as im human with too much emotion and can't control?opss..sorry i almost forget..u are just giving me advise sorry and really thanks for ur advise i'll take note on it
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I'm curious... She 20... & U still sae she young? Dat means U alot older than her? or maturity wise?Originally posted by ^cereal^: Becoz I'm a gal, that's why
Always remember that guys and gals approach issues differently. You shouldnt feel that any comments here are harsh, becoz at the end of the day, you'll be facing the issue yourself, not anyone of us here. What we can do is to give you suggestion and tell you about our personal opinion.
I should say you're still young and have a long way ahead of you. Seriously speaking, you wont find saying sorry to a gal if they don't mean it. The fact that he smsed you proves that he's still very much into the r/s. Else I don't think he even bother to tell you that, think abt it. Some ppl are born with gift of the gab, words come naturally to them very easily. Some ppl are not so. THey find difficult to express themselves, probably your guy is one such person? Like I mentioned, you know your guy better than anyone of us here and we don't know what actually happened. Maybe if you post your story, we can have a better picture and can help you out more efficiently, don't you think so?
Take all comments with a pinch of salt. You do not have to agree with all of them, coz everyone is unique and special in their different ways.. -
ok.. must confess i'm too lazy to read thru the 6 pages.. anyway, i sort of agree that we misuse technology nowadays.. of cos, an apology should be more than an sms.. i would be disappointed if someone apologies by sms too.. a phonecall would be more sincere.. at least it will reduce the chances of further misunderstandinOriginally posted by yuiko:really don't understand what some guys are thinking
..did something wrong..just sms a simple sorry and that's it nothing came from him after that 
no action to show how sorry he is..make me wonder if he's really feeling sorry..and also he can sms me telling me he still love me..and yet just using sms..guys wake up i know now technology very good you can use sms..but pls lar something you just have to do it yourself!! 
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She's yet 21. of coz young..Originally posted by loneryu00:I'm curious... She 20... & U still sae she young? Dat means U alot older than her? or maturity wise?
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wow.....
i've learnt a lot from this thread......
things i should have learnt weeks earlier, if i had then mayb i would not have lost him...........
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I am a guy and wanna share my personal experience similar to this.
I sort of made a small mistake (which was very very trivial) and I tried to CALL my female friend after reading an email sent by her. I thought it'd be more sincere and maybe can iron out the problems on the spot. Not only she didn't pick up her personal line, she didn't bother picking up the mobile phone nor reply my sms. Next day, I got slapped with a very harsh email relating to the same problem. So, question is, what on earth is a sincere apology when sometimes girls just dont want to face the issue, verify it, before passing judgement of their own ?
It was because of the issue above, that my female friend, who made a mountain out of a molehill, 2 of us never contact each other no more because I cannot stand such people who dun bother to listen to the other side of the story. Its simply unfair.
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Think whenever a couple quarrels...no matter who is right or wrong...both hafta reflect upon themselves why they quarrel over e matter
guys..usually headstrong..wont admit even if they are wrong...thats not true..we do apologise when we know we are wrong
girls..even if they are wrong...they make it look like e guys fault...although not saying all e girls but some of them do that... some of them after they cool down..they still act as though they are angry...dont answer to calls... act like they are angry...demand this and that
personally i have met such women before and to me its pointless to persuade them n keep apologising...they just keep going... sometimes i rather let them cool down before talking.
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Originally posted by Cerebral_Assassin:when i was the guy in this situation last time, i concluded from such experiences that such girls r either young n immature or spoilt gfs.
it takes 1 hand to SLAP and 2 hands to CLAP. u also need to do something. since u want an explaination, y not u ask him to explain himself? say something like this 'I GIVE U A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF'. then no doubt he'll call u up.
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I tink more like immature...Originally posted by ^cereal^:She's yet 21. of coz young..
Ah well... She proberly wun listen anywae...
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Originally posted by loneryu00:I tink more like immature...
Ah well... She proberly wun listen anywae...
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seem to me that most guys here think gers are unreasonable and don't listan to explaination?yesterday i just talk with my bf ...he came down to meet me and explain things out..Originally posted by loneryu00:I tink more like immature...
Ah well... She proberly wun listen anywae...
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That's good. So are you feeling better off now?Originally posted by yuiko:seem to me that most guys here think gers are unreasonable and don't listan to explaination?yesterday i just talk with my bf ...he came down to meet me and explain things out..
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women have the upper hand in most things...
take this scenario:
a woman slaps a man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds... the man was a jerk and so she slapped him.. man's fault
a man slaps a woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the man is a jerk and a wifebeater.. man's fault
then another:
a woman cries in front of the man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the guy must have done something bad and she's crying... the bastard.. poor girl... man's fault
a man cries in front of the woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the woman must have caught him red-handed and he's pleading with her.. what a jerk! what a wimp! stupid man!.. man's fault
you see? some women figured this out and have taken advantage of this.. ANYTHING they do, no matter if they were in the wrong or not, the man will be at fault in the eyes of EVERYONE...
from this, the number of unreasonable women are growing... i see it all the time... it is frightening and i'm very disturbed...Originally posted by yuiko:seem to me that most guys here think gers are unreasonable and don't listan to explaination?yesterday i just talk with my bf ...he came down to meet me and explain things out.. -
Originally posted by the Bear:
Agree with Bear about this.
women have the upper hand in most things...
take this scenario:
a woman slaps a man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds... the man was a jerk and so she slapped him.. [b]man's fault
a man slaps a woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the man is a jerk and a wifebeater.. man's fault
then another:
a woman cries in front of the man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the guy must have done something bad and she's crying... the bastard.. poor girl... man's fault
a man cries in front of the woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the woman must have caught him red-handed and he's pleading with her.. what a jerk! what a wimp! stupid man!.. man's fault
you see? some women figured this out and have taken advantage of this.. ANYTHING they do, no matter if they were in the wrong or not, the man will be at fault in the eyes of EVERYONE...
from this, the number of unreasonable women are growing... i see it all the time... it is frightening and i'm very disturbed...
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Originally posted by the Bear:
women have the upper hand in most things...
take this scenario:
a woman slaps a man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds... the man was a jerk and so she slapped him.. [b]man's fault
a man slaps a woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the man is a jerk and a wifebeater.. man's fault
then another:
a woman cries in front of the man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the guy must have done something bad and she's crying... the bastard.. poor girl... man's fault
a man cries in front of the woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the woman must have caught him red-handed and he's pleading with her.. what a jerk! what a wimp! stupid man!.. man's fault
you see? some women figured this out and have taken advantage of this.. ANYTHING they do, no matter if they were in the wrong or not, the man will be at fault in the eyes of EVERYONE...
from this, the number of unreasonable women are growing... i see it all the time... it is frightening and i'm very disturbed...
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I should say this is generally the case. Sad but true, thats how ppl see things on the surface most of the time. That's why many ppl choose to have a nice looking partner... why? Becoz it's the superficial side of life...
Originally posted by the Bear:
women have the upper hand in most things...
take this scenario:
a woman slaps a man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds... the man was a jerk and so she slapped him.. [b]man's fault
a man slaps a woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the man is a jerk and a wifebeater.. man's fault
then another:
a woman cries in front of the man... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the guy must have done something bad and she's crying... the bastard.. poor girl... man's fault
a man cries in front of the woman... 1st thing that comes to ALL people's minds.. the woman must have caught him red-handed and he's pleading with her.. what a jerk! what a wimp! stupid man!.. man's fault
you see? some women figured this out and have taken advantage of this.. ANYTHING they do, no matter if they were in the wrong or not, the man will be at fault in the eyes of EVERYONE...
from this, the number of unreasonable women are growing... i see it all the time... it is frightening and i'm very disturbed...
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