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This looks like name listing isnt it?
list those ppl if u have evidence that they did something wrong la..
not list for the fun of listing lei...
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whoa so we have come to the stage of naming people... seems like making a "hit-list" of targets to get rid off
just to share abit with the forumers... I have worked closely with many of the individuals on that list... and i can frankly say that most of those people are decent and honest chaps... their only sin is that thay are just too misguided to see the truth... or choose not to see the truth..
the real culprits are the dukes... these are the guys who have been in bel'air for many years... they know how to play this game of manipulating people for their own gains... if not how can they can survive in MLM for so many years?
to them, MLM is all about getting people to join by investing large sums of $$$, thus ensuring that they themselves earn high comissions. Then when these ppl left, like me and some of the forumers, they will just move on to search for new victims... Sad to say, some of their so-called "generals" may choose to follow them on this evil path, mainly bcos they have mostly quitted their jobs, or bought big cars, and have no way out except continue to con people..
most of the marquis on that namelist belong to this category... a few also came from decent families (meaning they themselves don't have to support family, parents still working), so they can afford not to get a proper job, and continue to stay in bel'air, and try to produce "miracles" (Pui!)
so what we have is a vicious cycle of conmen continue to con new victims... and along the way, some of the victims join the conmen as well... So sad! -
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Hmm..
i do agree with joachim peiper of what he said.
In fact, everyone is a victim of any kind.
I had personally know many ppl in there who can be great friends and have great future. But poor thing they chosen the wrong road to strive for success.
To such extent, i dont see why we ought to condemn such ppl.
Given u are in their situation being blinded by such nice scenarios, wouldnt u have done the same thing too?
And being in such heavy debts, imagine how worse they can further feel if they came to this forum and see all these things? most of them will break down i guess.
Anyway, good thing is that more and more ppl are waking up, and some of them are trying to do it the right way.
The fact of why those ppl are being listed are because they had failed to observe the rules and the ethics, and its pointless for me to write out their sins one by one as it gonna take ages.
If u observe a particular member of that group had done something drastically wrong, feel free and list them out..
but DO spare a thought for those who are victims themselves.
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Agreed.When i was there,they told me they were expanding their area,dun know if true,if so it means tat there r more pple joining.Originally posted by ForsakenBeing:Hmm..
i do agree with joachim peiper of what he said.
In fact, everyone is a victim of any kind.
I had personally know many ppl in there who can be great friends and have great future. But poor thing they chosen the wrong road to strive for success.
To such extent, i dont see why we ought to condemn such ppl.
Given u are in their situation being blinded by such nice scenarios, wouldnt u have done the same thing too?
And being in such heavy debts, imagine how worse they can further feel if they came to this forum and see all these things? most of them will break down i guess.
Anyway, good thing is that more and more ppl are waking up, and some of them are trying to do it the right way.
The fact of why those ppl are being listed are because they had failed to observe the rules and the ethics, and its pointless for me to write out their sins one by one as it gonna take ages.
If u observe a particular member of that group had done something drastically wrong, feel free and list them out..
but DO spare a thought for those who are victims themselves.
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I do agreed with you guys. BUT... there are some of those, whose are very confident or strong believers think, all over here what we stated were rubbish, they dun feel in "that" ways as they dun even will break down, they will laugh at us and claimed all of us here are failure etc....Originally posted by knightlll:Agreed.When i was there,they told me they were expanding their area,dun know if true,if so it means tat there r more pple joining.
God bless them!
and some of them just can't face the truth or the fact, still hold on it. Just let it be up to individual to think what is "right" or "wrong". And lastly I think anyone who buy up or ask your downlines to buy up in order to become "monkeys" or help you to achieve your volume of statues 
are meaningless and waste of $$$$$$ 
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quote by knightlll:
who bring you down there de?
Hello! Recently i juz went to the belair workshop.Juz to add something after reading the whole thread. One of the marquis mentions tat being a member there,the benefit is wiillable.Meaning tat if u r gone,the benefits can be passed on the person u willed.
I think my frenz is attracted by tis.
When i went to the workshop,the speaker mentioned tat belair products r certified by 9 to 10 countries.
I was one who almost wanted to sign up since they sounded so sincere n professional.But 2 days b4 i intended to join,i looked thru the Net to find out more,juz to play safe.
Thank god,i managed to find tis forum.
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Halo are you new comer? Just kidding, why don't anyone put their Userid as 1+5/1+15? Must indicate Anti 1+5 & 1+15Originally posted by 1x2x3: 
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ya.. i'm a newie!!Originally posted by Life2BfUn:Halo are you new comer? Just kidding, why don't anyone put their Userid as 1+5/1+15? Must indicate Anti 1+5 & 1+15 -
welcome!Originally posted by 1x2x3:ya.. i'm a newie!! -
Ya you r rite!! The leader of the group is the arrogant DRDL.
Heard from my friends that they have grow fat not only in pocket but also in size. Both of them keep telling their downlines that they don have enough rest but they are getting fatter while all their monkeys are becoming zombies....
They now start having their cashflow workshop in NUS, SMU and NTU, think they dont dare to held it at their office.
About the poor 8, his leaders r telling all their downlines that he mindset is not correct that y he landed himself like this but in actual fact is all thank to R L.
Dont know why all the grads want to follow a so call leader who cant speak, who cant even prepare the slides that he want to use, worse when speaking bark like a mad dog. Pushing all the fault to his monkeys.
dDL worst when sit down to talk to his downlines will take their phone and read thru their msg and say "I playing game and i switch off the sound". -
Apparently the business is very bad.. very hard to find "clowns" or cut 1+5.
They are notorious for taking downlines' money. Saying that wat ever you do you must "TRUST & BELIEVE".. meaning.. ask u to be DUMB. think they also never find enough ppl so have take money to "cut plates" under their own downlines.... -
Now they are telling ppl that Monkey Baldwin's mindset is not correct? ha~ last time when i went there he was the 'star' leader lor. i heard tat he owe a lot of money outside. dunno how true is tat. but if they are really telling others that his mindset is wrong then i does pity him. work so hard, trust and believe upline but this is what he gets in the endOriginally posted by fganti:Ya you r rite!!! They call themselves Falcon Global Network. The leader of the group is the arrogant useless Duck Ronald Lim and Fat Ass Don Lim.
Heard from my friends that they have grow fat not only in pocket but also in size. Both of them keep telling their downlines that they don have enough rest but they are getting fatter while all their monkeys are becoming zombies....
They now start having their cashflow workshop in NUS, SMU and NTU, think they dont dare to held it at their office.
About the poor RX8, his leaders r telling all their downlines that he mindset is not correct that y he landed himself like this but in actual fact is all thank to Ronald Lim.
Dont know why all the grads want to follow a so call leader who cant speak, who cant even prepare the slides that he want to use, worse when speaking bark like a mad dog. Pushing all the fault to his monkeys.
His bro Duck Don Lim worst when sit down to talk to his downlines will take their phone and read thru their msg and say "I playing game and i switch off the sound". -
My friend say that if not for him and all his effort, the 2 useless duck won't even be duck lor.Originally posted by chokolatte:Now they are telling ppl that Monkey Baldwin's mindset is not correct? ha~ last time when i went there he was the 'star' leader lor. i heard tat he owe a lot of money outside. dunno how true is tat. but if they are really telling others that his mindset is wrong then i does pity him. work so hard, trust and believe upline but this is what he gets in the end
That RL keep telling those who remain that all those who left keep bad mouth them, if what they say is so good y so many ppl leave.
When I attend their event, my friend say they going 2 buy a 2 million plus landed porperty. Now heard from my friend that they are telling their downlines that they going to buy an over 100k car.
NO ACTION TALK ONLY = RD
Now still live in a 3 room flat and asking his downline 2 drive them home, so really now who is telling the truth. If they really got the money y dont buy? Y keep asking their downlines to buy car?
MAYBE BOTH OF THEM KNOW THAT THIS BIZ GOING TO FAIL, SAVE ALL THEIR DOWNLINES MONEY IN BISCUIT TIN.
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Wow... more newcomers to the forum speaking out about AAA...
It's disturbing how they are able to hold events at NUS,NTU, etc...
What is the uni doing? Don't they screen out these people and the materials they are going to present first???
The way these people are able to operate so freely in the Unis' really makes me sick!!! If any forumers are reading this, please please spread this to ur family members, friends, anyone u know in NTU/NUS/SMU to beware of these people and if possible report to the admins... -
urm, i understand the thing against bel air, but why shouldnt they hold events at NTU/NUS again?
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This is grave news... They say that Marquis Baldwin's mindset is not correct?Originally posted by chokolatte:Now they are telling ppl that Monkey Baldwin's mindset is not correct? ha~ last time when i went there he was the 'star' leader lor. i heard tat he owe a lot of money outside. dunno how true is tat. but if they are really telling others that his mindset is wrong then i does pity him. work so hard, trust and believe upline but this is what he gets in the end
I used to work closely with Baldwin. I can honestly say that he is a very capable chap, someone who believes 100% in this "business", and really puts in his heart and soul into helping the network. He bought the RX-8 also because of his belief in his uplines and Bel'air, and treated Bel'air as his only career.
When i left the network, his own network was already running into difficulties... too many ppl, including 1+5 investors, pulled out and asked for refund... I believe he has to pay back alot of his commission.
I can testify that Baldwin's network made significant contributions to the duke challenges of R and D...its true that he is not the main contributor, but he worked day and night to help his uplines complete their sales target. If his mindset is not correct, I honestly dunno what can be considered a "correct" mindset.
The truth is that the people at the top are making use of all their downlines to make money... if you are not useful anymore, or you became a liability to them, then you are considered "unsuitable" and have "wrong mindset"... regardless of whatever contributions you have made...
This is really sad.. forumers if you are reading this, please spread the word to all you know... we need your help in stopping these frauds from spreading their evils to the other innocent parties... now that they realise they have difficulties cheating working adults, they are now invading the universities... bcos they believe Uni students are more fresh in their outlook of life and therefore easier to brainwash/psycho...
Victims like me and Baldwin cannot turn back the clock, we can only move on with our lives.
BUT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING!!
Spread the word... don't let them harm anymore people... PLEASE..
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Imagine NTI doing their recruitment in NUS/NTU/SMU. What do you thinkOriginally posted by laurence82:urm, i understand the thing against bel air, but why shouldnt they hold events at NTU/NUS again? 
It shudders those who know exactly how AAA/Bel'Air operates.
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I also want to verify that all that has been said about the 2 infamous brothers are all true... they have been talking about buying cars and properties since last year... but till now haven't smell anything yet.
THey both have no license yet, but like to drive their downlines' cars (which they psycho them to buy) around the carpark... oh yeah R behaves like a warlord of whatever u wana call him... just scold people or demand people to do whatever he wants...
I don't think they made a lot of money, because if you guys refer to my earlier post, it is highly likely that they themselves pump in quite a lot of $$$ to get their duke position.
A story to share with you all:
D completed his duke challenge in May, just before the 20th, which was the bel'air annual awards presentation. What people don't know is that just days before the 20th, his sales volume is merely HALF of what's required to get dukeship. How did he complete the other half? Its not thru his downlines, because the network (I was still there at that time) has already stretched itself to the max just to churn out that half of the sales target...
I do not know what tricks they pulled, but what i do know is that just days before the 20th, D and R went to Bel'air HQ to speak to the management... and when they return, we were told that D is a Duke!
i strongly believe they pump in their own money to buy out the required sales volume.. or at least they begged the company to give them discounts..
Either way, it just shows how insane they are... and they are telling their downlines to do the same (pump in own money for sales volume) so that they can make money out of it... and ultimately they themselves will benefit the most out of it, while most of their downlines will end up broke...
Are they evil or insane or both? You guys decide for yourself. What i can say is that these people really exist in our society, and the worse thing is that they have broken no law, and authorities cannot take much action against them..
What we can do is to let people know the TRUTH.
WHICH IS WHY THE WORLD MUST KNOW
PLEASE DON"T LET THIS EVIL CONTINUE...
WARN ALL YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS!
P.S. i have decided not to name any names, but if readers/forumers have any idea what is happening inside, they will know who I am referring to. -
That's because local schools are starting to adopt an open approach towards MLM.Originally posted by SavedSoul:Wow... more newcomers to the forum speaking out about AAA...
It's disturbing how they are able to hold events at NUS,NTU, etc...
What is the uni doing? Don't they screen out these people and the materials they are going to present first???
The way these people are able to operate so freely in the Unis' really makes me sick!!! If any forumers are reading this, please please spread this to ur family members, friends, anyone u know in NTU/NUS/SMU to beware of these people and if possible report to the admins...
MOE has approved NTI's training system and methodology and given them its offical endorsement.
Polys like Singapore Polytechnic are already offering modules titled "Network Marketing"
You see the trend
P.S. I believe the universities are fully aware of the motives of the Bel'Air organisers. They're also reaching out to the grassroots level in neighbourhoods to my knowledge. So if all goes as planned, you'll start seeing workshops and surveys being conducted at your local CC or RC =) -
Hope they do teach modules called Professionalism and Ethics, both of which is severely lacking in this industry.
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i agree with u
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why are they allow to operate in the society???