Bel' Air

• fganti

  9 Nov 06, 10:08

  Originally posted by fallen_souL:

  i suggest printing phamlets, then when their prospect leaves, hand those phamlets out to them, telling them to visit this website to get a clearer picture of the empty promises and lies.

  Haha....
  
  If what falconhunter private msg is true, the Dukes are following this forums. if they see the plan, i think they will ask the associates to send their new friends all the way to Boon Keng MRT station or wait with their new friends till the bus come or even better ask the associates to pay for the taxi fare and send their new friends back by taxi.
  
  Anyway forgot to THANK falconhunter also!!!!
  
  Thank you man for the warning. Cheers
• TIB744U

  9 Nov 06, 12:27

  Hey there everyone.
  
  Personally, I welcome the Dukes to follow this forum. They ought to know how much dirty stuff they've done inside Bel'Air. Because if their intention inside's to continue sucking up their downlines' blood, money, heart and mind, I dont see any reason why they should be living on planet earth. If they dont wake up on their bloody ideas and continue dreaming about money, cars, achievements and glory everyday, it's going to get them nowhere.
  
  Honestly speaking, I truly respect our friends around here who've been contributing their experiences, putting in the effort to publicise the bad deeds of Bel'Air etc. They've been through the hard times, they've learnt their lesson, they've brought themselves together to move on. They deserve me utmost respect.
  
  *salutes*
• Pay It Forward

  9 Nov 06, 19:30

  TIB744U ,
  Thank you for giving us the respect
  
  I personally too also welcome them here too , it is because this forum is having such a impact on them that they have to monitor it.
  
  Well done forumers that include me hor .
  
  I believe this will add impact n will be effective
  

  Dear All,
  For those who are approached to do Belair MLM , please go to the undermentioned web address for Pros N Cons . The $money$ is yours , it is always better to evaluate 3 to 4 times before jumping into it .
  
  www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
  
  After that if you find this information useful :-
  
  Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg(web site) to all your loved ones / friends
  
  Thank You very much

  So anybody who wish to help can Copy Exaclty n Print n Paste too
  
  Anybody can got better version let me know k , send to my email also can .
  
  Once again i would like to thank all who contributed to this forum THANK YOU VERY MUCH
• wavesofthoughts

  10 Nov 06, 10:00

  would like to add,
  
  despite the ugly stuffs in the human network,
  the product is genuine and helps our health.
  
  - bring the right message across
• Unfair

  10 Nov 06, 18:44

  agree that some of the products might be useful
  
  but please remember......
  
  (1) NOT ALL THE PRODUCTS ARE USEFUL........(even if some are effective, but it is definitely not as good as they claim (they always exagerate the facts, eg....rub the oil on your body, the cancer will be smaller days to days)...........plssssss.....
  
  (2) IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MEDICAL CERTIFICATE to show that it really helps our health. (it only has certificate to show that it doesn't harm our body or it can purify the air)
  
  (3)IT HAS ALREADY OVERPRICED. You can buy it at ebay at much much much lower price. you can buy the bottle from Hong Kong "women street" or malaysia chinatown (qi qiong kai) at one tenth of the price in singapore. (maybe even less than that) .....i can even buy the oil at very lower price in taiwan.........on the street........again.........on the street. .......somebody told me he saw belair shop in Europe, the price is so cheap compare to SG by MLM........
  
  
• Unfair

  10 Nov 06, 18:52

  to clarify
  
  for belair shop in europe, actually forgot where the sourse is.....,so i dun know if it is true.
  
  
• Dr_Why

  10 Nov 06, 23:06

  below is an extract from http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Aromatherapy.asp?sitearea=ETO
  
  a website from the american cancer society
  
  Overview
  
  There is no scientific evidence that aromatherapy is effective in preventing or treating cancer
  
  There is no scientific evidence that aromatherapy cures or prevents disease
  
  Are there any possible problems or complications?
  
  Essential oils should never be taken internally as many of them are poisonous. Some oils can cause sensitization (allergy to the oil). Others cause irritation if applied undiluted to the skin. Aromatherapy oils have been reported as causing headaches, nausea, and allergic reactions.
  
  
• Pay It Forward

  11 Nov 06, 10:36

  Hey guys just like hang_man said
  
  

  hey guys, lets not lost focus here. let ppl say what they say. dont be distracted by the 'nosies'
  we are here to share our experiences, to create awareness abt bel'air, AAA, fgn etc. we are here to share to prevent others frm becoming victims like ourselves.
  
  so please continue the sharings as ppl are still gg down to commonwealth, boon keng to explore the biz. they are at risk at being cheated of their money, time and trust.
  
  lets get the ball rolling! again!

  Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt .
  So pls all forumers pls pls do refresh your experience weekly ,monthly(some of them who did not JOIN after reading the forum i could feel their sense of relieve n happynessssssss)
  I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
  Our friends have left us because of us joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.
  We had cut counts...............
  
  WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!
  
  media corp? wan pao? strait times? new paper? or any Parliament members?????? can help
  Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
  (Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air)
  What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc....
  
  I have started putting up the notice , very happy n satisfying leh .
• k2wanviet

  11 Nov 06, 13:02

  Originally posted by wavesofthoughts:

  would like to add,
  
  despite the ugly stuffs in the human network,
  the product is genuine and helps our health.
  
  - bring the right message across

  So, what is the product that is so good to health? Just list them if you are prepare to buy and I am sure many are willing to let you have it at a hefty discount The price will definitely be cheaper than the sinful pricing by Bel'Air.
  
  Unless you are not serious in your posting, you should take up the offer.
• fganti

  11 Nov 06, 14:49

  The products are good this point I agree.
  
  But come to think above it man. The product itself doesn't have any actual value man. During the presentation some of the speaker will say that the product have value. If it so true then why don't the company buy the stock back from us???
  
  They always say in OPP or RTM, this is a investment..... You should look at the Return Of Investment (ROI) not the amount of money but come to think about it, this line is bullsxxx man. Sometimes I ask myself, why I throw so much money into Bel'Air, nothing in this business is ASSETS!!!!
  
  If you throw money into stock and share, you still can sell them away to recover some lose. But Bel'Air even the company doesn't want the product. Aromatherapy is not trade as commodities, unlike cotton, sugar or oil.
  
  Sometimes the Ducks will say that in this business people or downlines are your ASSETS. Pls for asset there a liquidation value, I believe many of us are in debt, you think we can sell our downline or network to pay off the debt meh!!!
  
  
• dokono

  11 Nov 06, 15:19

  Of course, like all great business people, they are trying to CLOSE you people.
  
  Who will say bad things about themselves?
  
  
  
  doko
• foody

  11 Nov 06, 21:37

  F.Y.I
  
  Pure Aromatherapy oil has high PH, is suppost to be acidate. So the recomanded storge media in glass bottle.
  But hv u notice, those sold by Bel'Air are stored in plastic bottle. If they a really pure the plastic should has been de-form.
  
  BTW why they want u to joint at $12K is bcos of the UNI-level plan they r using. In this plan comm r pay base on ur downline personal purchase not on their group vol. So even e downline got many many downline, the upline earn nothing if their level 1 dun buy anything.
  
  So company with this type of pay plan will always want u to front load few thousand of product.
  
  So beward of company using UNI plan, dun go near them, U will be burn.
• fganti

  13 Nov 06, 15:25

  Lampe Berger ‰ë‰Ì’O��ûž—Ö@“I—R˜Ò (the origin of Lampe Berger & Bel'Air)
  
  Happen to read this article from a taiwan web site.
  
  http://www.geocities.com/joyfulluck/history_of_lb.html
  
  
• fganti

  13 Nov 06, 15:42

  Similar to sgForums from Taiwan.
  
  The topics are all on Aromatherapy Companies in Taiwan.
  You all should know which 2 LB & BA (sister company own by Huang Shu Xiong & Huang Shu Li)
  
  http://online.sunshine.org.tw/bbs/area.asp?type_id=10&page=2&start_page=0
• Dr_Why

  15 Nov 06, 17:28

  There is HELP!!
  
  Did anyone read THE NEW PAPER ON SUNDAY dated 12 Nov 2006.
  
  They were interviewing this guy who was doing Timeshares and earning $10,000K a month But he was quitting! WHY!?
  
  He said, he felt guilty, as he was cheating other ppl money... NOt just singaporeans but also tourist.
  
  THe press are interested in our news! Just waiting for someone to call them and provided them with HOT NEWS @ 1800 - 733 44 55.
  
  The link to the story...
  
  http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfriendly/0,4139,117341,00.html
• kokov

  15 Nov 06, 20:49

  Dr_Why..Why don't you call them and share with them your story?
  You can start the ball rolling. Why not?
• Pay It Forward

  16 Nov 06, 03:37

  Read it at the thread Network Marketing Needs A Miracle
  
  Post by ramcem on 14 August 2006 · 05:21 PM
  
  

  Dear all,
  
  I was doing some research on industries turnover and chance upon some statistics which I hope to highlight especially on the network marketing and discount retailing.
  
  These are my personal research and could have contained errors. If there are indeed errors, I would apologize for any inconvenience caused.
  
  ~Ramcem
  
  ***********************************************************************
  Network Marketing Needs a Miracle
  by Ramcem
  
  Network Marketing also known as Multi-Level Marketing started officially in the late 1940s with a company called Nutrilite. Amway is currently the world's largest MLM company. Network marketing is also considered a form of direct selling.
  
  Wal-Mart started in 1962 by Sam Walton with discount retailing in mind. Started slightly later than Amway, let's see what the whole of network marketing industry & Wal-Mart, which is just one of the companies in discount retailing, has achieved.
  
  Based on reliable statistics for the last 5 years, the whole of MLM industry has an average turnover of US$90 billion. Wal-Mart alone has an average turnover of US$250 billion, almost 3 times the whole MLM industry combined. (I just checked that Walmart has broken the US$300 billion mark for FY ending 31st Jan 2006. The exact figure is US$312.427 billion.)
  
  Funny, we have the whole of MLM industry competing against a single company yet Wal-Mart's astonishing results almost crush the whole MLM industry 3 times over.
  
  Network marketing has been touted as the "future" of doing business since the days of Nutrilite. After half a century, Wal-Mart alone leapfrog the whole MLM industry 3 times over. MLM industry has a long way to go to even break the record of Wal-Mart today, even longer if Amway were to compete with Wal-Mart.
  
  Don't get me wrong. I love the concept of network marketing more than discount retailing. If I buy a magic mattress from Wal-Mart at US$69.90, I get only that mattress even if I introduce my whole family to buy it. But if I buy that magic mattress in an MLM company and I introduce to my family, I can get recurrent income!
  
  Hold on, wait a moment. The same magic mattress in an MLM company would have cost US$800 or more. So much hot air about MLM being a subset of direct selling!
  Little wonder why the whole of MLM industry can't even beat a supermarket?
  
  As of last year September 2005, the Walton family occupied the 6th to 10th position of the richest American with a total combined wealth of over US$75 billion surpassing even Bill Gates by a third. Sam Walton would be the world's richest man if he is still alive. Sam died in 1992.
  
  Of the top 25 richest Americans, none of them come from the MLM industry. Most of them reached their positions by owning their companies (non-MLM), casinos, real estate etc.
  
  Adding insult to injury to the MLM industry, Michael Dell occupy the 4th position after Bill Gates, Warren Buffet & Paul Allen. Michael Dell started his company using direct selling in 1984, much later than Amway in 1959. Today, Dell's turnover is about US$50 billion compared to Alticor (Amway's parent company) US$9.6 billion. Michael don't sell computers using direct selling approach at US$10k a unit.
  
  What went wrong? Network marketing need a miracle.

  Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt .
  So pls all forumers pls pls do refresh your experience weekly ,monthly(some of them who did not JOIN after reading the forum i could feel their sense of relieve n happynessssssss)
  I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
  Our friends have left us because of us joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.
  We had cut counts...............
  
  WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!
  
  media corp? wan pao? strait times? new paper? or any Parliament members?????? can help
  
  Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
  (Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air)
  
  What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc....
  
  Tks to those who help post on notice boards to cause awareness .
  
• fganti

  17 Nov 06, 15:43

  Below is a news report on Bel'Air in China
  
  http://finance.sina.com.cn/chanjing/b/20060320/09042430353.shtml
  
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• fallen_souL

  17 Nov 06, 19:38

  erm, anyone with any updates on AAA, FGN? i am just curious, not the least concerned.
• alter_eeg0

  21 Nov 06, 11:40

  All is not lost.
  
  For the end of them is near...
  
  
• fganti

  22 Nov 06, 11:01

  Originally posted by alter_eeg0:
  [b]All is not lost.
  
  For the end of them is near...
  
  [/b]

  Ya I agreed with you. THE END OF THEM IS NEAR!!!. Drove by Hiap Huat House recently saw the building is under construction and most interesting is both AAA and FGN light was not on. LOL think save on utilities bills...
• fganti

  22 Nov 06, 11:12

  It seem that the forum has cool down.
  
  We must continue to post here so more ppl can understand and aware wat BELAIR/AAA/FGN are doing.
  
  
  
  
• FalconHunter

  22 Nov 06, 14:00

  Hi everyone,
  
  Got this piece of information from a very early post in SG Forums. (2003)
  
  The following site was mention in the post:
  
  http://www.a3pl.com/index.htm
  
  I think all of you should check it out man.
  
  The diffuser are similar to Bel'Air products, especially the heavy crown.
  
  The company name is a3pl Mmmm........
  
  can it be AAA Pte Ltd? HAHAHAHAHA LOL
  
  1 is call : Sobefyne - France
  
  another call : Sathelyne - France
  
  Mmmmmm........
  
  *This post is meant to be informative*
• VeryFree1

  22 Nov 06, 21:18

  Originally posted by fallen_souL:

  erm, anyone with any updates on AAA, FGN? i am just curious, not the least concerned.

  Ya man! anyone can update us wats going on in "A" "A" "A" or Leon Gp. Are they still there or he has back to Redhill (sell fried oyster)?
• joachim_peiper

  23 Nov 06, 00:32

  Hi guys,
  
  yeah agreed that forum is cooling down... guess we are all busy rebuilding our lives :-)
  
  just to share with forumers, i recently went back to Shiang Series to have a talk with the management... actually one fine day they called me say got things to discuss.. ask me go there have "a chat"...
  
  so i went there and have some kopi with them :-) Seems the company is trying to clean up the mess created by some of the networks (you all know who they are...). They are proposing that those ex-distributors who have large quantities of stocks on hand to try to sell it off. The company is willing to provide support like opp, product fair, training programmes, etc to help ppl who have left their networks, and yet still have a lot of stocks (namely ppl who were brainwashed to cut count and 1+5).. seems to me they want to prevent further complains.. do some damage control
  
  i took the opportunity to highlight to them the problems created by those networks and Ducks, and the distributors who have suffered under their "leadership and guidance"... the company is aware of such issues, and claims to be stamping out these problems. The company is discouraging those networks from cutting counts (buying up stocks) and trying to get them to focus more on product sales instead.. not sure if anybody is listening and obeying though... base on what i know of those bastards, they would probably continue cutting count under the table...
  
  overall i find the meeting rather constructive... looking at the bright side, at least the company is not pushing all the responsibilities away.. and is trying to help those who were badly affected. (of cos they can't return us the money, but at least they are still willing to provide marketing support)
  
  I am glad to say that i know of at least 1 team of distributors who have left the evil network and now operate directly under the company, focusing on product sales and doing some GENUINE marketing.
  
  As for the bad guys, anybody has info on whats going on inside now? quite curious ...