CAD officially investigates NTI and EGA
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Originally posted by laurence82:simply because you guys all along have never answer to our questions
go dig up the numerous questions and issues in the numerous topics posted on nti and sunshine empire and whatnot
how many of these issues posted by forumers were answered in full by NTI/SE etc agents?
all you guys did were to go 'oh your words are getting ridiculous'
i mean, are we so asking the right questions that you feel your conscience and guilt tugging at you? are we so on the point that you guys felt so compelled to desperately do anything just not to answer these questions? are we so brutally truthful there is no solution for you guys but to come up with some cockmaniac tricks like this event now?
i mean, wow, all my life, you guys are the only bunch of people ever so desperate
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Cool.. Another accusation on me...Originally posted by laurence82:are you LFI_Yes or JZ21?
then why you bother?
You've changed laurence, you've changed...
Pls read ur earliest posts and reflect...
I understand that people flame you, accuse you of things.
However, i urge u to remember Luke 6:29 n Matthew 5:39. -
I already inform some LFI agents
Lets get back to the issues SE agents are trying to evade or have not answered
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HAHA...Lau i can confirm this time u are wrong.. Cox i personally know who the hell JZ21 is...
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Dont need to tell me, or evade the main issue, or do whatever tricks you guys haveOriginally posted by R_teo82:HAHA...Lau i can confirm this time u are wrong.. Cox i personally know who the hell JZ21 is...
I already inform LFI peeps -
1) since you are not the moderater den y are you saying that you are able to trace others IP add. Den how you noe their IP add is from SE. Dun tell me that the ADMIN or SOMEONE told you, as it makes no logic. Unless your laurence82 account also was a clon acc.Originally posted by laurence82:a) no i am not a moderator, coz moderator got the tag moderator above their nicks
b) btw, moderator cant ban, but the two moderators of this MLM forum happened to be the owner and admin too
c) as for the rest of your hubba hubba, what happened to SE is what is happening to companies like Enyouth and companies in Malaysia
since you are probably a noob to the MLM scene, let me educate you a bit
MLM companies dont collapse just like that, even if they are scams
they merely surviving, once they know people see thru their tricks, they change schemes, company name, revamp superficially
look at Telescope's topic for more info on the numerous scheme NTI has changed since now
distributors come and go..so i guess the real guy pwning everyone here is JP isnt it? i mean, he is the only businessman earning from the effort of you chaps, but from his angle, you all are mere ants...
break out of this cycle, and you can realise that you are no more a slave than an employee
to add onto your knowledge, MLM scams in Malaysia work a bit differently, they got licenses..but whoever hold onto the licenses may not be the original owner, and could be a scam in disguise
once you start knowing these things, you will realise why some crap SE agent long time ago can tell me SE survived for 28 years and such rubbish
either its fake, or he doesnt know what goes on behind the scheme
2) Have you been a MLM agent before. If not how much you noe abt MLM.
3) If MLM is a scam, den from all your post onli attack SE/NTI. But LFI was left untouch by YOU wor. So isnt it so obvious.
4) I believe that SE agents here dont answer your question is becos those question you ask is some stupid question. so before you say they are unprofessional, do ask yourself if you are professional enough first. As i find all your question is super unprofessional and stupid + no knowlegde. (sorry, no hard feeling) juz expressing wat i feel.
5)If really LFI wants to carry on a legal suite den i think no one will care abt it as, if they really do it, den they the wan trying to cover somethings with doesnt want others to reveal to the world by using the law. -
hey bro, you keep saying SE agent running away from question. But my point of view is that you had forgotten wats is the main topic liao. Think back its *CAD officially investigates NTI and EGA.* like the topic says, if SE/NTI is a scam den why no action taken by CAD. So you trying to frame CAD from covering for them izzit or saying CAD is been supporting scam company.Originally posted by laurence82:Dont need to tell me, or evade the main issue, or do whatever tricks you guys have
I already inform LFI peeps
Pls be more professional and think before you post can laurence82.
Will pray for god to help open up ur knowlegde. Amen -
a) for me to know and for you to find outOriginally posted by outsider_84:1) since you are not the moderater den y are you saying that you are able to trace others IP add. Den how you noe their IP add is from SE. Dun tell me that the ADMIN or SOMEONE told you, as it makes no logic. Unless your laurence82 account also was a clon acc.
2) Have you been a MLM agent before. If not how much you noe abt MLM.
3) If MLM is a scam, den from all your post onli attack SE/NTI. But LFI was left untouch by YOU wor. So isnt it so obvious.
4) I believe that SE agents here dont answer your question is becos those question you ask is some stupid question. so before you say they are unprofessional, do ask yourself if you are professional enough first. As i find all your question is super unprofessional and stupid + no knowlegde. (sorry, no hard feeling) juz expressing wat i feel.
5)If really LFI wants to carry on a legal suite den i think no one will care abt it as, if they really do it, den they the wan trying to cover somethings with doesnt want others to reveal to the world by using the law.
b) is this relevant?
c) is this relevant? i mean, did i say MLM is a scam? are you sure i only attack nti? i mean i was accused of being amway agent coz i didnt touch amway, so now i am an LFI agent, whats next? i am a nuskin agent? (PS: you are so ridiculously ignorant)
d) why are they stupid questions? please dont use 'stupid questions' as an excuse, fact is, you guys have no clue to these issues. and worse, you guys never even point out how 'stupid' they were
like i said, sorry for being brutally truthful and asking questions that shakes your conscience, but damn i have to do it..
e) oh dear, so an SE agent threatening lawsuits mean its an honest lawsuit, while an LFI lawsuit means its a cover up? why you contradict your fellow agents? why are you backstabbing your fellow mates? -
not reallyOriginally posted by outsider_84:hey bro, you keep saying SE agent running away from question. But my point of view is that you had forgotten wats is the main topic liao. Think back its *CAD officially investigates NTI and EGA.* like the topic says, if SE/NTI is a scam den why no action taken by CAD. So you trying to frame CAD from covering for them izzit or saying CAD is been supporting scam company.
Pls be more professional and think before you post can laurence82.
Will pray for god to help open up ur knowlegde. Amen
it was you who was ignorant of who started this 'income' fracas by boasting his uplines income which he never dare to prove
and pls, i am not an mlmer, i dont have duty to be professional in the first place, but i believe i have done my dues and answer to each and every very professionally
but alas the same cannot be said for you guys
in anyway, its good everyone of you come aboard, its a good medium to have a fracas here and expose to the public how unprofessional and evasive SE agents are
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HOHOHO, Think i need to clarify that i wasnt from SE or anyother MLM company. Im juz a outsider that feel all question ask is stupid question.Originally posted by laurence82:a) for me to know and for you to find out
b) is this relevant?
c) is this relevant? i mean, did i say MLM is a scam? are you sure i only attack nti? i mean i was accused of being amway agent coz i didnt touch amway, so now i am an LFI agent, whats next? i am a nuskin agent? (PS: you are so ridiculously ignorant)
d) why are they stupid questions? please dont use 'stupid questions' as an excuse, fact is, you guys have no clue to these issues. and worse, you guys never even point out how 'stupid' they were
like i said, sorry for being brutally truthful and asking questions that shakes your conscience, but damn i have to do it..
e) oh dear, so an SE agent threatening lawsuits mean its an honest lawsuit, while an LFI lawsuit means its a cover up? why you contradict your fellow agents? why are you backstabbing your fellow mates?
SO are YOU going to FRAME me from SE also??? Since framing is ur professional. and also check my profile be4 you comment. Den also y you keep helping LFI. It seems that you are in quite close to their agent. -
before i started replying, answer all my five points as i do to yoursOriginally posted by outsider_84:HOHOHO, Think i need to clarify that i wasnt from SE or anyother MLM company. Im juz a outsider that feel all question ask is stupid question.
SO are YOU going to FRAME me from SE also??? Since framing is ur professional. and also check my profile be4 you comment. Den also y you keep helping LFI. It seems that you are in quite close to their agent. -
and which part i did say you are from NTI or SE?Originally posted by outsider_84:HOHOHO, Think i need to clarify that i wasnt from SE or anyother MLM company. Im juz a outsider that feel all question ask is stupid question.
SO are YOU going to FRAME me from SE also??? Since framing is ur professional. and also check my profile be4 you comment. Den also y you keep helping LFI. It seems that you are in quite close to their agent.
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Y Y Y, you already say you dun hav to be professional den i dun see a point for SE people to be professional in answering 'YOUR' question. Professionalism is for treating others who is professional.Originally posted by laurence82:not really
it was you who was ignorant of who started this 'income' fracas by boasting his uplines income which he never dare to prove
and pls, i am not an mlmer, i dont have duty to be professional in the first place, but i believe i have done my dues and answer to each and every very professionally
but alas the same cannot be said for you guys
in anyway, its good everyone of you come aboard, its a good medium to have a fracas here and expose to the public how unprofessional and evasive SE agents are
And stop framing im from SE. As i am from TRANSTAR TRAVEL PTE LTD and a PROFESSIONAL SENIOR TOUR CONSULTANT.
Juz curious abt your qualification laurence. Whats your highest qualification. Mind to share. -
again, reply to my five ptsOriginally posted by outsider_84:Y Y Y, you already say you dun hav to be professional den i dun see a point for SE people to be professional in answering 'YOUR' question. Professionalism is for treating others who is professional.
And stop framing im from SE. As i am from TRANSTAR TRAVEL PTE LTD and a PROFESSIONAL SENIOR TOUR CONSULTANT.
Juz curious abt your qualification laurence. Whats your highest qualification. Mind to share.
if you dont wish to answer, its ok, i am used to it
as for the rest of the questions, they are irrelevant to the issue unless you can prove the link -
Originally posted by laurence82:
Pls look at the highlighted point. what do you mean *why you contradict your fellow agents*, *why are you backstabbing your fellow mates*
a) for me to know and for you to find out
b) is this relevant?
c) is this relevant? i mean, did i say MLM is a scam? are you sure i only attack nti? i mean i was accused of being amway agent coz i didnt touch amway, so now i am an LFI agent, whats next? i am a nuskin agent? (PS: you are so ridiculously ignorant)
d) why are they stupid questions? please dont use 'stupid questions' as an excuse, fact is, you guys have no clue to these issues. and worse, you guys never even point out how 'stupid' they were
like i said, sorry for being brutally truthful and asking questions that shakes your conscience, but damn i have to do it..
[b]e) oh dear, so an SE agent threatening lawsuits mean its an honest lawsuit, while an LFI lawsuit means its a cover up? why you contradict your fellow agents? why are you backstabbing your fellow mates? [/b]
arent you saying im one of them, or are you going to frame me as a clon of their people. -
oh, then i will use one of your argument, why are you defending SE? arent you an SE agent by the logic if i defend LFI i am an LFI agent?Originally posted by outsider_84:Pls look at the highlighted point. what do you mean *why you contradict your fellow agents*, *why are you backstabbing your fellow mates*
arent you saying im one of them, or are you going to frame me as a clon of their people. -
of cos there's a link as you keep framing me as SE agent. Think you should apologise for that.Originally posted by laurence82:again, reply to my five pts
if you dont wish to answer, its ok, i am used to it
as for the rest of the questions, they are irrelevant to the issue unless you can prove the link -
oh dear, are you gonna apologising for calling me an LFI agent in the first place?Originally posted by outsider_84:of cos there's a link as you keep framing me as SE agent. Think you should apologise for that.
and there is no link
how can qualifications (whatever that means) be linked to 'framing' you?
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so you saying you from LFI izzit. i dun remember saying you are from LFI or their agent. And im not defending SE and i do not need to side them too.Originally posted by laurence82:oh, then i will use one of your argument, why are you defending SE? arent you an SE agent by the logic if i defend LFI i am an LFI agent?
unless you have prove to say that i from SE if not den pls think be4 u frame. -
tskOriginally posted by outsider_84:3) If MLM is a scam, den from all your post onli attack SE/NTI. But LFI was left untouch by YOU wor. So isnt it so obvious. -
so is there any outcome of this thread???
wat happen to e thread starter sia??
how come he is keeping quiet????
please find out wat happen to this guy first!
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another one
then what happened to past nti agents?
lose money no face come here? -
dear all, i was browsing through this forum when i happen to chance onto this topic... and i went through all the pages from 1st page to this last page.. just like to share some of my MAD thoughts on everything i see... just my thoughts and only my thoughts......
1st- personal thinking abt mlm.
i understand that as a victim, he/she should come out and inform how he/she is being affected by a mlm company. this is to let more ppl be aware of how tat company affect his/her life... then others shd go and more details checks on that company if he/she likes this industry before deciding on anything. A person shd be liable for their own decision by then whether tat particular company's system/management/etc and how market or consumer sees it. talk to more ppl abt it and find out abt how other company works too... if you thinks that you can accept.. then take the risk....
2nd - risk
i strongely believes that every decision in our lifes involves risk... be it big or small.... traditional or non-traditional....coz a lot of things will directly or indirectly affects this business...
even if i am a employee, i have risk of being retrenched... tat's my risk...
i trying to say that every one of us is different and we see things differently... each individuals have different risk level intake... so it will also affects our decision making too....
in this forum... anyone can really be anyone... no one will know unless they meet up... after looking through these pages... i do hope that no one need to say all those dirty words which i agreeds that it reflects very badly on your own company... be it any company... it shows that how in-mature one can get...
just curious.. what is e objective of joining mlm company? to get fast cash? to get more network? like the product? or to share and help ppl with their own company product? think abt it... think abt why u join... also remember... regardless of which and what company... what is your starting objective... sometime we tend to go out of way when we are too engrossed in our pursuit of $$$....
i sincerely hope that everyone do their part and perhaps the world will be a more better place to be in...... good luck! -
really good points there mateOriginally posted by M.A.D:dear all, i was browsing through this forum when i happen to chance onto this topic... and i went through all the pages from 1st page to this last page.. just like to share some of my MAD thoughts on everything i see... just my thoughts and only my thoughts......
1st- personal thinking abt mlm.
i understand that as a victim, he/she should come out and inform how he/she is being affected by a mlm company. this is to let more ppl be aware of how tat company affect his/her life... then others shd go and more details checks on that company if he/she likes this industry before deciding on anything. A person shd be liable for their own decision by then whether tat particular company's system/management/etc and how market or consumer sees it. talk to more ppl abt it and find out abt how other company works too... if you thinks that you can accept.. then take the risk....
2nd - risk
i strongely believes that every decision in our lifes involves risk... be it big or small.... traditional or non-traditional....coz a lot of things will directly or indirectly affects this business...
even if i am a employee, i have risk of being retrenched... tat's my risk...
i trying to say that every one of us is different and we see things differently... each individuals have different risk level intake... so it will also affects our decision making too....
in this forum... anyone can really be anyone... no one will know unless they meet up... after looking through these pages... i do hope that no one need to say all those dirty words which i agreeds that it reflects very badly on your own company... be it any company... it shows that how in-mature one can get...
just curious.. what is e objective of joining mlm company? to get fast cash? to get more network? like the product? or to share and help ppl with their own company product? think abt it... think abt why u join... also remember... regardless of which and what company... what is your starting objective... sometime we tend to go out of way when we are too engrossed in our pursuit of $$$....
i sincerely hope that everyone do their part and perhaps the world will be a more better place to be in...... good luck!
as for the so called clones, whether they are really from the company or just clones, they are mauling the company's image
and strangely, there could be some real affliates here from that company, but no one taking these fake ones to task
so we have to assume they are pretty allright with people mauling their image -
bro lau.. there can be anyone here in this forum... whether they are from which company... is it really a concern of us?
and also, is everything written here true or false? anyway, true or false... i dun think there is any need to confront as i tink time will tell... this applys to every company too!
to all members, be your own judge of things... you are the result of your own decisions....