CAD officially investigates NTI and EGA
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Don't you get it? Whatever project doubts you are casting doesn't matter. Because there are pple who choose to dump huge amount of money into this company, and that is what keeps the company going. That is what may keep the company still surviving for at least another 2 years.
My purpose? I'm just expressing my views here. Isn't this the purpose of a forum? -
Yeap true, dumping huge amounts of money, keeps the company going, this what help the company surviving for 2 yearsOriginally posted by kokov:Don't you get it? Whatever project doubts you are casting doesn't matter. Because there are pple who choose to dump huge amount of money into this company, and that is what keeps the company going. That is what may keep the company still surviving for at least another 2 years.
My purpose? I'm just expressing my views here. Isn't this the purpose of a forum?
hahahhahahahhahah
Do you realise what you just insinuated?
Whoever questioned your purpose? I am asking about the whole point of this exercise, based on the points I raised?
On a sidenote, issit so shameful to disclaim affliation with SE?
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yes, i dun want to be in any way affiliated with the company because i'm not part of it.
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Yes, it is a money game.Originally posted by laurence82:Yeap true, dumping huge amounts of money, keeps the company going, this what help the company surviving for 2 years
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hanorOriginally posted by kokov:Yes, it is a money game.
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on one hand you talk about high returns every month and defend it, on the other hand you dont want to be affliated with itOriginally posted by kokov:yes, i dun want to be in any way affiliated with the company because i'm not part of it.
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Because the high returns is a fact.Originally posted by laurence82:on one hand you talk about high returns every month and defend it, on the other hand you dont want to be affliated with it
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fact?Originally posted by kokov:Because the high returns is a fact.
so if its so true, why didnt you join? and why defend from a sideline?
and the story was the same many blipping years ago, where are the millionaires? where are the bipping fleets of Mercs and BMWs? -
Emcom Taiwan DOES NOT BELONGS TO the International President (IP) of SE
it belongs to their Partner Taiyee Technology Development Corporation
IP has NO Stake OR Shares to be part of the Directors nor Management of Emcom Taiwan thus he can't take any credit for the take over of the company.
Only a 3 yrs old kid/Greedy & Naive Ppl will be taken into it. (Think before you want to reply to my post)
You better DRILL IT into your head.
Emcom Singapore than has links to the IP
IP is just a partner helping to sell Emcom Taiwan.
Sunshine Empire is just Riding on the fame of Taiyee Corporation and taking others credits and passing it as theirs thus it's like a Chinese Zodiac Story of the Rat sitting on the Cow waiting for the Cow to reach near the gate, than the smart rat after making use of the cow, than rush off to be the 1st person to pass the gate..
Think twice if you seriously think that it's a safe investment..
If anything goes wrong, gone are your CASH, no money-back-gurantee.
If you don't know the Terms and Conditions.
You might want to take the agreement form to go to a REPUTABLE LAWYER in singapore since u are earning so much money..you will be shocked if you get hear it from the lawyer..that is if you are willing to pay the fees..
Since you know it's a money-game..I shall not elaborate more..
the fact they are still paying u all money because there's still a lot of fools paying the company money..simple as that..
Get your facts WELL.
if you get my message clearly..than it's time to WAKE UP FROM ALICE AND WONDERLAND and face REALITY!!
earning money via such un-ethical means, i will not do it, cause when it fails, there will be LOTS OF PEOPLE CURSING AND SWEARING at the people inside..I would not want karma/retribution to happen on either me nor my family..rather be supsicious than to ignore..better to be safe than to be sorry..
I am one of the ppl who used to curse the previous few failing projects..
If you want to come back to REALITY, I can show you the way to proper channels of earning money.
OR Just walk into ANY BANKS and say Hey, I got $XXXXX amount, show me your investment plan - ask for at least 8% returns as a minimum. -
HAHA LFI again.. So lets all pray sunshine collaspes k..? or u have so much evidence its a money game.. What the HECK is our singapore goverment doing..? For BMWs n merc.. trying walking at the basment of the HDB hub to see how many got sticker of EGA.? I know that their trends.. Yipee...
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My friend asked me to join him in a seminar recently, hence did a little research. Rather similar don't you all think? -
Hi,
I am a merchant from SE and i wanna share some thougts in this forum. Just some self opinions of mine.
-After reading throught all the post made by you guys, its absolutely frustrated that you all keep redirecting to others topic rather than the initial topic of the forum. For you guys info, i am a newbie in SE and had just joined for few weeks. But after going throught these few weeks, i found there's some both positive and negative points that should brought out...
Let started with the negative first :
1)SE is a company that runned by JP under a MLM method. Firstly i being appoarched, its concentrated on the Taiwan wireless projects and all the presenters will use this only point to attract the people to join in. But recently this was totally shifted to another project called eMall and this damn old idea can make money?I can't say no, but a bit hard. Why they abundance the wireless project since its much attrative than the online shopping mall? This shown SE don't have a ultimate aim and had already made a raise in doubt.
2)The people inside SE are bad story tellers. Their interacting skill is low class. As a merchant, i attend some of the grouping and classes that held by my upline. During the grouping, we do planned how to market our GP's plan more efficienctly. We are taught to counter a question that raise by the propesct with another question, yes, they are avoiding giving a clear explanation. For the classes or seminar, i never attend any from JP one but throught those classes which held by his management or development team, the presentation is su*ks!!!!Even me can think of a better way to present a update to all the member.
3)They cover all the negative stories bout' the SE from us. Whenever you enquire bout' the rumors, the upline or you all called higher earners will say its a fake story meanwhile the truth is they keep avoiding all this issues.(as usual)
4)EmCall is a failure, bad quality of calls makes some of my clients stop using it and change back to normal telephone service. Hopes its getting better soon or Emcall will eventually dissappeared.
For the good side:
1)Undoubtly, SE can let you earn money.(up till this moment) Thats the only reason i join SE. The plan they offer is too good to refused, by just asking people around you to share this plan you can earn a massive amount of incomes. Who don't want money, so do i. Thanks SE for the extra incomes.May be you all out there will doubt the cheque that the member of SE shown you, but i experiencing it myself, its truth money which you can actually withdraw it anytime you want or directly bank in to your saving account.
2)Another fact that SE is growing in a speedy rate because the top-earners have the good ability to organise a group to fight along with them. Try to imagine, when we known that there's propects in Indonesia and we will straight away flied over for the meeting, updates each other instantly when new updates bout' company is announced...such a good organisation, is a main fact that they can earn big bucks in short time.
Lately, its said that CAD already started their investigation on EGA. I just wanna know who out here can confirm me its this a truth or just a rumor? Cause i know the answer that i can get from the prople inside SE, therefore i need a point of view from different perspective.
I am not gonna post anymore, i am just waiting for the answer from those who know, i don't want to wast this server space like you guys by just posting a icon...
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Reality is I'm not from SE, I'm not their investor. I'm aware of their high returns but I didn't invest because I dun need the money. You sound like you are someone who has not gone through much education. As a result, I can understand that you probably had some bad brushes in your life trying to make a living, hence that may explain why you sounded so defensive in your postings.Originally posted by the_fallen:Emcom Taiwan DOES NOT BELONGS TO the International President (IP) of SE
it belongs to their Partner Taiyee Technology Development Corporation
IP has NO Stake OR Shares to be part of the Directors nor Management of Emcom Taiwan thus he can't take any credit for the take over of the company.
Only a 3 yrs old kid/Greedy & Naive Ppl will be taken into it. (Think before you want to reply to my post)
You better DRILL IT into your head.
Emcom Singapore than has links to the IP
IP is just a partner helping to sell Emcom Taiwan.
Sunshine Empire is just Riding on the fame of Taiyee Corporation and taking others credits and passing it as theirs thus it's like a Chinese Zodiac Story of the Rat sitting on the Cow waiting for the Cow to reach near the gate, than the smart rat after making use of the cow, than rush off to be the 1st person to pass the gate..
Think twice if you seriously think that it's a safe investment..
If anything goes wrong, gone are your CASH, no money-back-gurantee.
If you don't know the Terms and Conditions.
You might want to take the agreement form to go to a REPUTABLE LAWYER in singapore since u are earning so much money..you will be shocked if you get hear it from the lawyer..that is if you are willing to pay the fees..
Since you know it's a money-game..I shall not elaborate more..
the fact they are still paying u all money because there's still a lot of fools paying the company money..simple as that..
Get your facts WELL.
if you get my message clearly..than it's time to WAKE UP FROM ALICE AND WONDERLAND and face REALITY!!
earning money via such un-ethical means, i will not do it, cause when it fails, there will be LOTS OF PEOPLE CURSING AND SWEARING at the people inside..I would not want karma/retribution to happen on either me nor my family..rather be supsicious than to ignore..better to be safe than to be sorry..
I am one of the ppl who used to curse the previous few failing projects..
If you want to come back to REALITY, I can show you the way to proper channels of earning money.
OR Just walk into ANY BANKS and say Hey, I got $XXXXX amount, show me your investment plan - ask for at least 8% returns as a minimum.
FYI, Emcom Limited (incorporated in Britain) is the company that took over China Photar. Emcom Limited is owned by James Phang (75%) and 2 other Singaporeans. -
Now we have Emcom, incorporated in BritainOriginally posted by kokov:Reality is I'm not from SE, I'm not their investor. I'm aware of their high returns but I didn't invest because I dun need the money. You sound like you are someone who has not gone through much education. As a result, I can understand that you probably had some bad brushes in your life trying to make a living, hence that may explain why you sounded so defensive in your postings.
FYI, Emcom Limited (incorporated in Britain) is the company that took over China Photar. Emcom Limited is owned by James Phang (75%) and 2 other Singaporeans.
With enough patience, we will see Emcom, incorporated in the Tahitis, or Easter Isles
Isnt it already eyebrow raising that so many people give different versions of what this Emcom really is? From Emcom in Taiwan, to a subsidiary of JP, to a company incorporated in UK
Are we guys playing Cluedo here? Like who murder Mrs Jones? -
I dun think I'm defending the company. I'm only providing additional info to this forum as i wish to see whether anyone here has any new insights to their developments.Originally posted by laurence82:fact?
so if its so true, why didnt you join? and why defend from a sideline?
and the story was the same many blipping years ago, where are the millionaires? where are the bipping fleets of Mercs and BMWs?
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yes you areOriginally posted by kokov:I dun think I'm defending the company. I'm only providing additional info to this forum as i wish to see whether anyone here has any new insights to their developments.
but then, you are forgiven
not many would dare claim affliation
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This shows that Emcom Limited is owned by JP.
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(Infocast News) China Photar Electronics Group Limited (8220) said Emcom Limited will make general offer for the entire shares of China Photar at the price of $0.017 apiece after taking nearly 74% stake in the company.
China Photar agreed to sell a total of 1.8 billion new shares to Emcom Limited and Smart Step Holdings Limited (a party acting in concert with Emcom) at $0.017 apiece, raising $30.6 million. Upon completion, Emcom and the party acting in concert will own approximately 73.85% of the enlarged issued share capital of China Photar.
Emcom will offer to buy the shares of China Photar it does not already own at $0.017 apiece and the convertible note at a price of $51,644 per $500,000 in the principal amount of the convertible note. Emcom is owned by three merchants from Singapore.
Trading in the shares of China Photar is resumed today.
The price of $0.017 for each share represents a discount of approximately 94.24% to the closing price of $0.295 on the last trading day. Proceeds from the share sale to Emcom shall be applied as to $8 million for repaying of shareholder's loan and upon which Chen Jijin, a substantial shareholder shall duly execute a deed of release for full discharge of the shareholder's loan. About $20.4 million from the proceeds will be used for redemption of the convertible note and the remaining balance of approximately $2.2 million will be used for general working capital.
Pursuant to the subscription agreement, 1.62 billion China Photar shares will be subscribed by Emcom, and 180 million China Photar shares will be subscribed by Smart Step, representing approximately 66.46% and 7.39% respectively of the enlarged issued share capital of China Photar.
Upon completion, the shareholding of Modern China Holdings Limited (MCH) which is held by Chen Jijin in China Photar, will be diluted from 54.39% to 14.22%. In order to restore the minimum public float requirement, Emcom and the party acting in concert will place 1.319 billion shares after completion, adding the full conversion of the convertible notes, the shareholding of Emcom, Smart Step and parties acting in concert with them will be 61.45%, while shareholding of MCH is 13.55%.
Emcom is beneficially owned as to 75% by Phang Wah, 15% by Yong Wai-hong and 10% by Lee Ping-yeow, all citizens of Singapore. They altogether have been actively engaged in the development of telecommunication infrastructure and telecommunication services in the Asia Pacific region.
Smart Step is an investment holding company which is solely and beneficially owned by Lim Yi-shenn, a citizen of Singapore. Lim has more than 10 years of banking and corporate experience -
I think only when they collapse, then not many would dare to claim affiliation. But at this moment, this forum has proven that there are still many cheerleaders around. I guess it must be painful to you.Originally posted by laurence82:yes you are
but then, you are forgiven
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how many is many?Originally posted by kokov:I think only when they collapse, then not many would dare to claim affiliation. But at this moment, this forum has proven that there are still many cheerleaders around. I guess it must be painful to you.
some got clones and banned and inadvertently got exposed
less than five were usually around, but now left you and chris
so this is what the company could muster?
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Broken link in previous post. Re-posting URL again.
http://www.chsec.com.hk/chs_portal/trdmodule/news_p.cfm?LangId=1&LNwsId=1152478 -
knn, tot what big hooha over a buyover
at $0.017 at discount, or 20 cents for full price, its a penny stock -
me? i'm not. Didn't I say that before? R u living in your own world?Originally posted by laurence82:how many is many?
some got clones and banned and inadvertently got exposed
less than five were usually around, but now left you and chris
so this is what the company could muster?
time must be 'good' huh? -
so discounting u..left..one..but he too come and goOriginally posted by kokov:me? i'm not. Didn't I say that before? R u living in your own world?
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yes! this is what i want to hear. making real comments to the facts.Originally posted by laurence82:knn, tot what big hooha over a buyover
at $0.017 at discount, or 20 cents for full price, its a penny stock
so what do u think will happen? seems like they have managed to make a hooha out of this to get more investors. wat do u think will happen after this? -
i like the way you present SE in a negative light without admitting it yourselfOriginally posted by kokov:yes! this is what i want to hear. making real comments to the facts.
so what do u think will happen? seems like they have managed to make a hooha out of this to get more investors. wat do u think will happen after this?
yes, more and more investors will pour in money, without realising this 'expansion' is buyover of some penny stocks