CAD officially investigates NTI and EGA
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Ignore him lah, what for waste time on "big cannons"Originally posted by emcom:How childish you are...
he don't have any idea what we doing, don't even know what GP is, as least kokov have probably listed to the presentation. Kokov replies are more worthy to reply -
It doesnt work here dudeOriginally posted by christopher_rf:Your points have logic, and i believe you feel mine have too, perhaps everything in this world that will be more views on every issue.
I respect your decision on not joining as a GP, its all up to personal choices. I can see you are a very knowledgeble chap,
At least your don't waste time acucmulating 73000 posts and posting rubbish!
will keep the updates coming
Firstly you dont answer his questions or mine
So it doesnt work by trying to separate people into different groups to alienate me.
Fact is, people still come here to slap SE left right centre
Fact is, you guys are humouring them by praising them but yet not answering their questions
Worse is, my question must have pricked your conscience till you have to avoid answering them.
What more can I say?
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You're avoiding Lauerence's questions.Originally posted by christopher_rf:Your points have logic, and i believe you feel mine have too, perhaps everything in this world that will be more views on every issue.
I respect your decision on not joining as a GP, its all up to personal choices. I can see you are a very knowledgeble chap,
At least your don't waste time acucmulating 73000 posts and posting rubbish!
will keep the updates coming
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Want to bet that either they wont reply directly to your challenge, or their replies will be along the line of 'his questions are not worth answering to'?Originally posted by redstone:You're avoiding Lauerence's questions.
Why? -
they don't have answer...Originally posted by redstone:You're avoiding Lauerence's questions.
Why? -
since kokov replies more worth to reply, why dont u address what he has said, some very valid points, like the word SCAM. Does it mean u do not tink it it a scam and u faithfully believe in ur company? or u noe its a scam and u continue doing?Originally posted by christopher_rf:Ignore him lah, what for waste time on "big cannons"
he don't have any idea what we doing, don't even know what GP is, as least kokov have probably listed to the presentation. Kokov replies are more worthy to reply -
He ask sunshine managers to print their bank balance and income tax statement and post online,Originally posted by redstone:You're avoiding Lauerence's questions.
Why?
Please do not degrade urself to this lvl.
Read properly what are his "questions"
This forum is very funny,
I'm like a white person is a black town..
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You think too much...Originally posted by laurence82:It doesnt work here dude
Firstly you dont answer his questions or mine
So it doesnt work by trying to separate people into different groups to alienate me.
Fact is, people still come here to slap SE left right centre
Fact is, you guys are humouring them by praising them but yet not answering their questions
Worse is, my question must have pricked your conscience till you have to avoid answering them.
What more can I say?
I already say your questions are something lilke "what is your mother name"
What more can i say.. ha ha.
You know nothing about wht a GP is. go get details, or make a fool of yourself -
As predictedOriginally posted by christopher_rf:He ask sunshine managers to print their bank balance and income tax statement and post online,
Please do not degrade urself to this lvl.
Read properly what are his "questions"
This forum is very funny,
I'm like a white person is a black town..
haha
I also asked you before, what is wrong with my question? You avoided replying on what basis are my questions irrelevant.
And you keep twisting my words
Its only because one of your fellow agents claim SE agents are earning earning high income, therefore I asked him to prove it.
Cannot prove? Then dont boast online. Besides, the question was directed at him long time ago. Why are you acting like you are the one being laid the challenge? Hinting you are a clone, eh?
Lastly, you are contradicting yourself, just like I mentioned the page before.
How can you be claiming to earn income, and yet also claim you pay for products and get rebates?
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Again, why would my questions be something like asking mother's name?Originally posted by christopher_rf:You think too much...
I already say your questions are something lilke "what is your mother name"
What more can i say.. ha ha.
You know nothing about wht a GP is. go get details, or make a fool of yourself
Please answer this question that you have been avoided for months -
christopher nvr see my post? bo reply me
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even if he quote your post, what are the chances he will answer to the question, and point for point?Originally posted by brokenluv:christopher nvr see my post? bo reply me -
Ho? White guy in black town?Originally posted by christopher_rf:He ask sunshine managers to print their bank balance and income tax statement and post online,
Please do not degrade urself to this lvl.
Read properly what are his "questions"
This forum is very funny,
I'm like a white person is a black town..
haha
Aren't you formerlly non MLM too? Nevermind that, I won't stoop to this level.
Ok, tell you what. Declare your income to me, rounded off to the nearest $500.
500?
1000?
1500?
2000?
Nothing to hide, right?
Even the ministers and US President declare their income.
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i earn $100,000 per mthOriginally posted by redstone:Ho? White guy in black town?
Aren't you formerlly non MLM too? Nevermind that, I won't stoop to this level.
Ok, tell you what. Declare your income to me, rounded off to the nearest $500.
500?
1000?
1500?
2000?
Nothing to hide, right?
Even the ministers and US President declare their income.
u believe or not? -
haiya easiest la i got idea..ur know wo cai wo cai wo cai cai cai right? ask the mlmer go the show lor.. can easily prove liao lor.. esp the taiwan wireless thing
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UR question:
From this post alone there are so many contradictory points. You guys were guaranteed payments every mth, so what makes you different from Swisscash who promise 10%?
They're not guaranteed fixed amount payment for every month actually, it is totally different with swisscash that promised giving out specific return like 15% everymonth.
For sunshine empire, Their monthly payout amount base on GLOBAL TOTAL SALES OF SUNSHINE EMPIRE X 10%.
If the sales drop , their payout will be reduce like $700 or maybe $600, if their sales increase, their max payout is around US$800.
Their sales is base on Emallempire products, cost is much less than our joining fees. For GP, just can exchange like USD300 product.
But they do giving out free 2100 minutes Emcall service for 4 years, just like u one shot payment for Prepaid card USD7000 to ur handphone company, then they slowly given out calling service for u.
So they can use the funds to do investment.
Their reserve funds will never touch because they not use that money to do payout, they using Monthly Sales x 10% to do payout, if sales drop to 50%, mean their payout oso drecrease to half. Reserve funds is for their investment project.
But they do guaranteed max rebate is $12000, IF AND ONLY IF company earn money then they will share the bonus.
Im a member since january, from Malaysia.
Thanks.
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[/b][/quote]Originally posted by syiyee:UR question:
From this post alone there are so many contradictory points. You guys were guaranteed payments every mth, so what makes you different from Swisscash who promise 10%?
They're not guaranteed fixed amount payment for every month actually, it is totally different with swisscash that promised giving out specific return like 15% everymonth.
For sunshine empire, Their monthly payout amount base on GLOBAL TOTAL SALES OF SUNSHINE EMPIRE X 10%.
If the sales drop , their payout will be reduce like $700 or maybe $600, if their sales increase, their max payout is around US$800.
Their sales is base on Emallempire products, cost is much less than our joining fees. For GP, just can exchange like USD300 product.
But they do giving out free 2100 minutes Emcall service for 4 years, just like u one shot payment for Prepaid card USD7000 to ur handphone company, then they slowly given out calling service for u.
So they can use the funds to do investment.
Their reserve funds will never touch because they not use that money to do payout, they using Monthly Sales x 10% to do payout, if sales drop to 50%, mean their payout oso drecrease to half. Reserve funds is for their investment project.
But they do guaranteed max rebate is $12000, IF AND ONLY IF company earn money then they will share the bonus.
Im a member since january, from Malaysia.
Thanks.
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Cannot just register to post meh?Originally posted by redstone:Register just to post this? -
Someone from public relations dept?Originally posted by emcom:Cannot just register to post meh?
Seriously I don't see such stuff, register just to make one post and vanish. Except in fan forums and this forum. -
I have been watching sgforum for 6 months already, reading many topics since from start, I saw a lot of war here.
Im not just wan to post 1 post and vanish, i post because i no longer can keep quite, i lazy to post, it never ending story if war here. Some of non-members not understand/misunderstanding EGA.
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You sure misunderstood?Originally posted by syiyee:I have been watching sgforum for 6 months already, reading many topics since from start, I saw a lot of war here.
Im not just wan to post 1 post and vanish, i post because i no longer can keep quite, i lazy to post, it never ending story if war here. Some of non-members not understand/misunderstanding EGA.
Money is our own 1, we know what we are doing.
How to misunderstand if your agents continue to tarnish your company reputation by avoiding issues or troll this place? -
I havent seen any NTI agent came to proclaim they are rich after staying for three four years in the companyOriginally posted by redstone:Someone from public relations dept?
Seriously I don't see such stuff, register just to make one post and vanish. Except in fan forums and this forum. -
Firstly if you're 'Anti Sunshine-Empire' or think it is a scam, it's sad to say you are either plain shallow or ignorant. The world is changing and revolutionizing, SE is taking this brilliant opportunity to release their products so as to dominate. Just cause SE has a humongous pool of people and has a really magnificent pocket, people start calling SE a scam and what not, these bunch of people probably taken their tertiary education in the 90's.
FYI; ( E-commerce, Telecommunications, OnlineShopping ) are huge businesses and i mean HUGE, take a look at Local SingTel's profit, they're so abundant that they're giving away laptops!. Moreover SE has so many Asia countries that they are going into. SE ain't some small scaled MLM company that sells toothpastes or any sort of consumable health products. HELLO PEOPLE! WE ARE RAISING A GENERATION MUCH SMARTER AND MORE MUCH COMPUTER SAVVY (AND TO A LESSER EXTENT LESS HEALTH CONSCIOUS)
SE is looking into the future and gobbling up other MLM companies, it makes so much sense that people from other network companies try to poison the image of SE. Take for example Laurence82, who is apparently from Amway or whatever, trying so hard to rake such a massive trifle over SE.
Fancy putting up false statements about the company.[/quote]Originally posted by laurence82:That was what was said 3 years ago, and some even claim sunshine empire exited for 28 years
and we still waiting
and read the list of failed schemes posted by Telescope
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Firstly if you're 'Anti Sunshine-Empire' or think it is a scam, it's sad to say you are either plain shallow or ignorant. The world is changing and revolutionizing, SE is taking this brilliant opportunity to release their products so as to dominate. Just cause SE has a humongous pool of people and has a really magnificent pocket, people start calling SE a scam and what not, these bunch of people probably taken their tertiary education in the 90's where the term E-Commerce or even Bitcomet sounds bleak to you.
FYI; ( E-commerce, Telecommunications, OnlineShopping ), what poly students are learning in their modules right now, are huge businesses and i mean HUGE, take a look at Local SingTel's profit, they're so abundant that they're giving away laptops!. Moreover SE has so many Asia countries that they are going into. SE ain't some small scaled MLM company that sells toothpastes or any sort of consumable health products. HELLO PEOPLE! WE ARE RAISING A GENERATION MUCH SMARTER AND MORE MUCH COMPUTER SAVVY (AND TO A LESSER EXTENT, LESS HEALTH CONSCIOUS)
SE has the foresight and looking into the future while gobbling up other MLM companies, it makes so much sense that people from other network companies try to poison the image of SE. Take for example Laurence82, who is apparently from Amway or whatever, trying so hard to rake such a massive trifle of SE.
Fancy putting up false statements about the company.Originally posted by laurence82:That was what was said 3 years ago, and some even claim sunshine empire exited for 28 years
and we still waiting
and read the list of failed schemes posted by Telescope
I hate to say this but Laurence82 you debate like a 12year old (sometimes). Its just sad that you don't have good comebacks and always need the_fallen dude to come back you groundless theory up.
If ever SE is a scam it is because of how independent distributors of the Co. portray SE. I've recently came across a post where a 16 year old boy paid 300+ and thinking money can flow in easily, and did not comprehend a single thing about the company, it is the representative's fault at not explaining in details and raising such a confusion.
SE's Prime packages are actually rising from time to time. While the rebates are getting lesser. Emcall was a huge success there's tons of people using this service right now and more in the future.Originally posted by the_fallen:Just a word of Advice.
To stand in and Gain the most advantage out of this service and pay less for it's service, look at it from customers' point of view.
To sum it up, the biggest worries by people are that SE's rebates is too fantastic and impossible, please think logically and in a business sense, if SE doesn't have such an attractive package who will forge such a strong bond with them. And do you think Emcom/Emall have a chance to fight the big guns that are already in the industry, think about it.
Ps. These are my 2cents, I'm only 16 if i may offend or say stuff that you might not agree please be kind and ever-forgiving! -
Strange thing
Whatever you said dont address any issue or question raised by people here, and worse, resorting to personal attacks.
Its not point waxing lyricals about SE's investments schemes or products, or just list some products and make statements as if SE will prosper, without any proper proof, basis or analysis.
No point talking about black sheeps and at the same time, acting like one of them too.
I had a sense of deja vu when I read your posts, and I know why. When I read JP's interview, I thought he was on drugs or something. Because the whole issue of the article is about SE breaking some financial regulations, and there he go yakking about participants calling him father and claiming that his company is worth $300 million USD. Huh? He doesnt even address anything at all.
Same for you, learn to address everyone's issues and questions directly and to the point. No point resorting to personal attacks or just come here attacking this nick by the name of 'laurence82'
i am not sure if SE agents are desperate or something, but grasping at straws wont help anything.