salary range for fresh diploma holder?
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Could not agree more...dun say poly even some fresh grads from local uni are being offered $1200-$1500. It is still an employer market so dun be too choosy.Originally posted by dcx:Earn ur experience before you talk abt pay... -
If you wan more $$$..sure...provided you do not mind working rotating shifts n long hours....by clocking OTs' n allowances....even if your basic starting gross pay is $1300, you can earn up to 3K......nothing comes easy in this world...
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Not to burst your bubble, but currently the global economy is showing signs of slowing down again, you might get your $1.6 K + salary now but be prepared that you may not get any future annual increments.
You may be stuck with this salary for the next 2 to 3 years if the economy doesn't show too much sign of picking up or if the industry you are in doesn't grow too much.
That's the harsh reality of life now.
As it is, economic cycles are getting shorter. The peak and trough of the cycle would probably be between 2 to 3 years apart. We had 2 relatively good years in 2003, 2004. 2005 seems to be showing signs of global slowdown.
Just be prepared and hope that this year will not be the start of another downturn. -
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HR cum admin?1600-1800bucks?sounds like too high lehOriginally posted by Lovespirit:i went for an interview with an insurance company for Human resource cum admin position. when asked regarding the salary expectatin, i asked for a range bet 1600-1800.. is it reasonable? for a fresh poly graduate with many job experiences... -
Fresh polytechnic grad $1.4K to $1.6K.
What about the starting pay for fresh uni grads ?
Anybody have any idea what is the current market rate now ? And in different industries eg. engineering, banking ? -
$1500 is the max. Anything above that needs a miracle.Originally posted by Lovespirit:i went for an interview with an insurance company for Human resource cum admin position. when asked regarding the salary expectatin, i asked for a range bet 1600-1800.. is it reasonable? for a fresh poly graduate with many job experiences... -
Yeah , sounds a bit high.Originally posted by Xcert:HR cum admin?1600-1800bucks?sounds like too high leh -
Depending on wat field too, and wat type of company like whether it's a local or mnc company...local company doesn't pay much but mnc normally follows the market rate...
Think 1300 - 1500 for fresh dip grad.... -
Depending on wat field too, and wat type of company like whether it's a local or mnc company...local company doesn't pay much but mnc normally follows the market rate...
Think 1300 - 1500 for fresh dip grad....but recently a dip lecturer mentioned 1200 - 1300.
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my fren's company is only offering $1.4k to degree holders...
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Originally posted by suGaR:my fren's company is only offering $1.4k to degree holders...
*headache
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Honestly this is not surprising...many fresh uni grads are still unemployed...got job is considered good liao.Originally posted by suGaR:my fren's company is only offering $1.4k to degree holders...
*headache
Still will never undertand why certain people insists that the economy is better than the previous quarter. -
hmm let's see... I'm fresh grad (last year batch)
Zheng Fu job (Government): $1,300 - $1,600 (depends where u apply)
My first job: S$1,500
Now my 2nd job: S$1,8000
(must bullshit about ur experience and be firm about your asking price)
My friend got a job (sales) basic: S$2,400 (She's just a grad, issit true chio bu get better pay than guys???) -
It is one thing to get a low pay for the first few years of your career.
However, I have noted that a lot of people have been stuck with the same pay for the past 3 to 4 years with little or no increment. Most of my peers have commented that their companies have frozen salaries since they joined 3 to 4 years ago with only a small token increment when things were better in 2003/04.
A fresh grad now may be earning only slightly less than someone who has had 3 to 4 years of experience. If the fresh grad is lucky and manages to get a well paying job say $2K + , chances are his colleagues who have had worked in the same company for 2 to 3 years may only be earning $2.2K. In some cases, the fresh grad may even be paid more than those who have worked in the same company for 2 to 3 years. Reason being the earlier people were earning low salaries during the "slump" and company policy dictate that they cannot just adjust the salaries upwards by more than a certain percentage every year.
So if you were earning say $1.4K during the tough times 3 years ago, the company could only adjust your salary by say another $200 or at best $400 now.
Compare that to a fresh grad who may come in at $2K, you will see the great wage disparity.
These are just some of my observations with my friends who ultimately had no choice but to leave the company to try get a higher paying job.
Even then, some firms will exploit the situation by giving you an increment based on your last drawn pay ie. saying they can't adjust your salary to market because of your previous low pay. Either way, your salary will likely be squeezed down.
The only way I guess would be to keep job hopping every 1 to 2 years to get a wage increase. -
the thing is sometimes it's impossible for us to know how good the advancement or pay increment will be... so many people will prefer a safer bet of getting a higher starting pay.Originally posted by YingJun KorKor:would you rather start with $ 1600 but can eventually get $ 2500 after 5-6 years or you wan a job that paids starting $2000 and still pays $ 2000 after 5-6 years.?
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Yeah, get the higher starting pay.Originally posted by UandMe:the thing is sometimes it's impossible for us to know how good the advancement or pay increment will be... so many people will prefer a safer bet of getting a higher starting pay.
No guarantees on further increments. -
yea i got a colleague tat has more den 100 hrs of OT.Originally posted by dcx:If you wan more $$$..sure...provided you do not mind working rotating shifts n long hours....by clocking OTs' n allowances....even if your basic starting gross pay is $1300, you can earn up to 3K......nothing comes easy in this world... cant imagine how much his next pay is gonna b... -
hai... i have a fren, who is an ITE grad, who looks pretty good (abit like kit chan) is earning 2k now...Originally posted by fishieee:hmm let's see... I'm fresh grad (last year batch)
Zheng Fu job (Government): $1,300 - $1,600 (depends where u apply)
My first job: S$1,500
Now my 2nd job: S$1,8000 (must bullshit about ur experience and be firm about your asking price)
My friend got a job (sales) basic: S$2,400 (She's just a grad, issit true chio bu get better pay than guys???) -
OOT abit ...Well talk about during construction boom in the 90s it is not uncommon to log 100 hrs which is against the statutory requirement not more than 75 hours that kind of things.
My fren was a clerk of work at construction site .. his pay was $3500 back then but gross $7000+++.. his OT claim is over the nite.. but he not so on the ball... when he supposed to be working OT would drive to my place to have coffee and we go bowling... some times he just appear at the site for a while then go home and zzZZ...
Those were the DAYs !! -
as u said, those were the days...Originally posted by seancannot:OOT abit ...Well talk about during construction boom in the 90s it is not uncommon to log 100 hrs which is against the statutory requirement not more than 75 hours that kind of things.
My fren was a clerk of work at construction site .. his pay was $3500 back then but gross $7000+++.. his OT claim is over the nite.. but he not so on the ball... when he supposed to be working OT would drive to my place to have coffee and we go bowling... some times he just appear at the site for a while then go home and zzZZ...
Those were the DAYs !! -
now there are more retrenchments than OTs
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eh...siao eh...your 2nd job pay rise to high ahz? from $1500 jump to $18000..how you do it? You sure if i'm firm with my $18000, they'll give me?Originally posted by fishieee:hmm let's see... I'm fresh grad (last year batch)
Zheng Fu job (Government): $1,300 - $1,600 (depends where u apply)
My first job: S$1,500
Now my 2nd job: S$1,8000 (must bullshit about ur experience and be firm about your asking price)
My friend got a job (sales) basic: S$2,400 (She's just a grad, issit true chio bu get better pay than guys???) -
Originally posted by dcx:eh...siao eh...your 2nd job pay rise to high ahz? from $1500 jump to $18000..how you do it? You sure if i'm firm with my $18000, they'll give me?
